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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:00 PM
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Poor U.S. roads hit drivers in wallet
Source: Detroit Free Press

Poor U.S. roads hit drivers in wallet
BY MATT HELMS • FREE PRESS DRIVING COLUMNIST • MAY 8, 2009


The nation’s rough roads are leading to higher driving costs for American motorists -- $400, on average, and $750 for drivers in urban areas, according to a new report released this morning.

A third of major U.S. interstates and major highways are in poor or mediocre condition, but it’s a particular problem in urban areas with populations of 250,000 or more, said the report by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials and the road advocacy group TRIP. It was released this morning at a news conference in Bloomfield Township.

The groups are using the study as ammunition to get federal lawmakers to significantly increase spending in the next six-year federal highway bill, which Congress will begin debating this summer.

“The American people are paying for rough roads multiple times,” said Michigan Department of Transportation Director Kirk Steudle. “Rough roads lead to diminished safety, higher vehicle operating costs, and more expensive road repairs.”

Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20090508/COL12/90508033/Poor+U.S.+roads+hit+drivers+in+wallet
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:56 PM
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1. Welcome to New jersey .. if you want a Bone Rattling ride
I am seriously ashamed of the conditions of some of the roads we have here in NJ.


My wheel have gone out of balance multiple times ... ( thanks to running over potholes that seem to crop up all the time)


My suspicion of Mafia backed construction companies who do a shoddy job on purpose doesnt help either...



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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:02 PM
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2. It's funny, that's the same emotion I had: shame.
I wonder why I felt "ashamed" of my state's roads? Interesting.

Anyhow, on the other: roads are designed in this country to fail (or rather, longer-lasting materials are not used) because, unlike much of Europe, different companies get the contracts to build and maintain. In the Netherlands, for example, the same company that builds a particular stretch of roadway is also awarded the 10-year contract to maintain it. You better believe they spend more on the asphalt blends.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:26 PM
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5. Your wheels have gone out of balance?
I broke my axle! x(
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:53 PM
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21. Shouldnt the state be liable for damages.. if they post a speed limit of 55 mph ...
with potholes in the road that ends up damaging the car.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:35 PM
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7. There's no mistaking hitting the NY State border on the backrounds
Suddenly everything is smooth again
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:02 PM
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18. It's those high taxes at work! Pay me now or pay me later, it seems!
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:16 PM
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3. This would probably protect SUV sales then I guess...
My dad was commenting on the types of vehicles in his part of England. There was a survey released stating that SW Surrey has some of the worst roads in the UK, but also has the highest number of SUVs around. Even with high gas tax and other deterrents to SUV ownership (higher insurance, higher vehicle tax) these types of vehicle flourish.

Now SUV and light truck ownership is quite high in the USA. If the roads get worse, old SUVs will be replaced with new ones, even if gas goes to $OUCH! a gallon. They'll need the vehicle just to get around.

Mark.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:23 PM
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4. The first thing I though when I saw the TATA
Was that some of the roads in the northern US have potholes big enough to upend such a little car.


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smitra Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:51 PM
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8. Potholes on roads in India are often far worse...
Especially following the monsoon season. It will be interesting to see how these look after somebody has had it for a year or so.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:01 PM
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11. That is why the old Ambassadors are the car of choice in India.....
I hadn't such a sturdy vehicle since the 50's. I am not familiar with cut and paste otherwise I have a picture.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:28 PM
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22. We used to have an Ambassador. Great car.
You could easily seat four in the back seat, and the front seats were amongst the first to recline. They called them "Nash seats".
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:35 PM
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6. it's tough on us bicycle commuters too!!
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crankmob Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:03 PM
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13. the freeways in west LA are fairly smooth..
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:56 PM
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9. Here in Central NJ we're getting road repairs, including GSP in my area .. .
happily -- they were really bad after the winter --

Meanwhile, gas was just over $2 bucks today!!

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:59 PM
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10. It's bad enough in a car
but it's pure hell on us motorcycle riders x(
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:03 PM
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12. Say....
how much does the repair shop charge to get that seat out of your butt. Oh wait, that would be the ER and most of us don't have insurance. Yikes!!!!!!!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:07 PM
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15. exactly,lol
I almost bit the pavement on a toll road last year. The hole went all the way across both lanes of the Turner Turnpike which they were charging me 3.50 to ride 90 miles on. I called up the Turnpike Authority and ripped their ass over it. I told them there was going to be one or more bikers down if they didn't get it fixed pronto. The guy didn't act too interested until I added "and that could include OHP motor officers. They got out there and fixed it then.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:27 PM
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16. Good for you.....
Some folks need to have a picture drawn for them before they connect the dots...:eyes:
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:04 PM
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14. Lost a hubcap, bent the wheel rim and needed a new tire.
Expensive trip into pot hole land!
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:46 PM
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17. If you guys are complaining about potholes in NJ
Wait until you hit on of the craters in Chicago. Yes is said craters we don't have potholes. the only good thing about them it does slow down speeders.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:03 PM
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19. Inside out and upside down speed bumps!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:38 PM
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20. All that money for the infrastructure has become welfare for the rich.
Edited on Fri May-08-09 04:38 PM by Vidar
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 06:26 PM
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24. Disagree. Each State,
throught their legislative processes decided to spend their taxpayers money on other projects.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 06:42 PM
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25. Like lower taxes on the rich? (nt)
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 07:25 PM
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26. If that is what the State legislatures
want, then that is the program they pass. They are the ones representing the people of their respective legislative districts.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:31 PM
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28. You've never been to NJ...
have you? :).

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:46 PM
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23. Tie Rods, ball joints, and front end alignments here in Michigan
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 03:23 PM
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27. Pennsylvania, traveling at the speed of Ka-Thud
You know when you've crossed the PA border from WV when all of a sudden it sounds like one of your tires has gone flat. I don't know how many times I've pulled over to check my tires on various interstates in PA, when all of a sudden I realize where I am and I know that the potholes and cracks in the road are causing the sound.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:57 PM
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29. Potholes broke my bike fender
I hit a pothole at ~20 mph on my bike, and snapped my front fender in half. I wasn't hugging the right side of the lane either. Some of the roads I pass through near Boston, in some of the swankiest towns (looking at you Lexington, MA - y'all owe me a fender), are just a mess of endless potholes, cracks, and missing pavement chunks. Pathetic.
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