9/11 panelist may quit over Bush secrecy (Bob Kerrey)

[lightbulb]

"I am no longer ... feeling comfortable that I'm going to be able to read and process what I need in order to participate in writing a report about how it was that 19 men defeated every single defensive system the U.S. put up to kill 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11," said Kerrey.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/168092p-146920c.html

[seemslikeadream]

1. Kerrey is going to be on Hardball tonight

Should be interesting

[truthisfreedom]

14. excellent.

[arcane1]

26. kick-ass

I hope he calls these bastards OUT!!!

people are catching on to LIHOP, I think, and silence is becoming a thing of the past...

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[thebaghwan]

32. What does LIHOP and MIHOP stand for?

n/t

[TacticalPeek]

33. Guess we could use a DU code book.

LIHOP - let it happen on purpose (re 911)
MIHOP - made it happen on purpose

IHOP - International House of Pantheists (just funning)


Took me a while to figure it, too.

Oh yea, "Tweety" is Chris Matthews.

[Poiuyt]

39. Try this one

http://dug.seattleactivist.org/

[Just Me]

42. Thank you for that clarification,...

,...and it is so odd given that I reached at least one conclusion just a couple of days ago,...LIHOP,...AT BEST,...MIHOP,...at worst.

It takes a HELLUVA lot of research and searching for me to arrive at either of those positions. Imagine what it would be like if the whole American people were posited with such a boggling charge, with the evidence mounting and a body of "defendents" recoiling.

This is not only far, far worse than Watergate,...it is THE perpetrators in Watergate,...whose time is due on the ring of justice. Let them burn in hell. They have earned their keep.

[myrna minx]

34. It refers to...

Did the Bu$h administration (L)et (I)t (H)appen (O)n (P)urpose?
or

(M)ade (I)t (H)appen (O)n (P)urpose.

[JoFerret]

38. Matthews voted for Bush

in 2000. Such a blowhard big mouth.

[wryter2000]

2. Speak up, Kerrey

Don't just disappear on us.

[wryter2000]

3. Welcome, Lightbulb

:hi:

[central scrutinizer]

4. bout damn time

thank you, Senator Kerrey. As an ex-pat Nebraskan, other than Ernie Chambers, there is little to be proud of in that dark red state.

[KCDem]

7. ain't that the truth!

I grew up in Omaha and was happy to leave.

:hi:

[ninkasi]

19. Don't feel bad, ya'll

I'm from Texas; imagine how I feel!

[KCDem]

22. I live here (TX) now, and it's a totally different republican mindset.

Here, people are just stubborn. In Nebraska, they're innocently deluded.

I can't figure out which one annoys me more. :)

[acmavm]

25. Hells bells, I'm still here and trying to figure out how to get the hell

out. But I support a son, so taking a hiatus from work to find a job somewhere else is not an option. But I agree, Kerry needs to stay. He's probably the best hope we have at getting to the truth.

[ixion]

30. yep... I grew up in Lincoln

couldn't wait to get out of there. Nice to go back and visit friends once in awhile, but it's really depressing to live there.

[Rainbowreflect]

21. You can be proud of me.

I worked on one of Kerrey's campaigns years ago.
I love how Ernie gets everyone so riled up. I don't always agree with him, but I love his style.

[skypilot]

5. "Hastert refused pleas by Bush...

...to extend the commission's...deadline"?????

Can the Speaker of the House actually refuse the President--if, in fact, Bush is "pleading" for an extension??

[BOSSHOG]

9. Quite a little Passion Play the repukes put on

[TacticalPeek]

11. POTUS: "Sorry, but Dennis said no."

:grr:

[central scrutinizer]

10. yeah, right

if you believe that, then I've got a bridge you might like to buy.

[Cooley Hurd]

12. That is utter bullshit!

The Bush admin was firmly against any extensions before!!! Now, they're pleading for Hastert to allow an extension?

Do they really think we're retarded? <props to JS>

[skypilot]

15. Posters #9-12

Yeah, that's what I thought. Fucking amazing and the silence is deafening!!

[treepig]

6. bob kerrey . . .

. . . a war criminal we can all be proud of.

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[treepig]

27. really, you're going to tell me that if no one was "fooled" by

mr. powell, et al., we'd still have gone to war?

despite mr. bush's plans for the iraq war from day one, i am sure that he would not have enacted it with 0% approval from the population.

instead, he and his minions put out their bullshit, 70% of the population (including you) ate it up and asked for more - like it or not, that's what made the war possible.

and feel free to keep mocking me, but if everyone was like me, the continual empire-building military interventions of the usa would not be taking place.

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[Evil_Dewers]

31. i think he has loved some to death

That you, RimJob?

To: Freedom Wins


So, it doesn't matter if snorted coke as a youth? It was a long time ago, a youthful indiscretion? Kinda like people who frequented sneakeasies during prohibition? Kind of a cute story, eh? Well, how about all the people whose lives have been destroyed by being arrested for the felony of drug possession? What about the millions of people who are rotting away in your filthy drug infested prisons at this very moment?

Well, by God, if you people insist on electing another cokehead as President, you damned well better throw open all the prison cell doors and free every man, woman, and child you're holding on drug charges. And if you're gonna elect another drug felon as President, you'd better rescind each and every one of your unconstitutional drug laws now on the books, including all of your unconstitutional search and seizure laws, and your asset forfeiture laws, and your laws that enable your unconstitutional snooping into our bank accounts and cash transactions. Well, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You people are sick! Conservatives my ass. You people are nothing but a bunch of non-thinking hypocrits! You're a shame and a disgrace to the Republic!

And, I, for one, am tired of taking orders from cokeheads and felons! Elect another one and I'll tell you what. I'll be ready for war! It'll be time to take up arms and run the filthy lying bastards out!

2 Posted on 08/20/1999 03:19:31 PDT by Jim Robinson < Reply | To 1 | Top | Last >

[arcane1]

35. um, ok...

perchance do you have a link? This is news to me...

still, Bush and Cheney have more skeletons in their closet than Kerrey does. B&C have 3,000 American civilian deaths to answer for

that's why they are trying so hard to avoid answering

[wicket]

16. disgusting

[Zhade]

41. Kerrey is (or was) a member of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

I'm not saying that makes him a war criminal or anything - but the CLI membership list leaves me wondering why the hell he would associate with people like this:

General Wayne Downing, U.S. Army (retired) (lobbyist for Iraqi National Congress)
Newt Gingrich
James R. Hoffa, Jr.
Bruce P. Jackson
Jeane J. Kirkpatrick (American Enterprise Institute)
William Kristol (Weekly Standard)
John McCain
Will Marshall (Progressive Policy Institute)
Richard N. Perle
Danielle Pletka (American Enterprise Institute)
Randy Scheunemann (CLI executive director, former chief national-security adviser to Trent Lott, drafted the "Iraq Liberation Act" that authorized $98 million for the Iraqi National Congress)
Gary Schmitt (executive director of the Project for the New American Century)
George P. Shultz
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (former CIA Director)

It bothers me that he's worked with these people.

[seemslikeadream]

18. What war did you fight in?

What kind of guns have you fired at someone? Did they fail to fire because the barrels were corroded because some fool didn't think it was cost effective to line them with a non-corrosive material? How often did you see one of your friends blown up right in front of you?

[TacticalPeek]

8. Dynamite.

Let the rebellion begin!

Let's see if any other members have a conscience or common decency.

All the dem candidates should announce that in their administration there will be a no-holds-barred investigation. Make bushco sweat.

[Old and In the Way]

17. Agreed, all Democrats on the commission should join Kerrey.

We should not be party to this travesty of justice and truth. We should let the American public know that until we control the House and Senate, the truth will bw stuffed by the Republican legislators who are co-enabling the cover-up.

[Nancy Waterman]

23. I agree, it should be in the Dem Pary platform

A complete, unobstructed investigation of 9/11. No executive priviledge allowed for Bushco.

While they are at it, once in office, the Dems can add the Plame investigation if (when) that comes to naught. And lets throw in Cheney's energy commission. What am I missing? Better late than never for these investigations. Oh yes, the bogus intelligence for the Iraqi War. I am counting on either Edwards or RFK, Jr being the Attorney General. I look forward to it. What did they used to say? "A breath of fresh air." The Crisco Oil slick will be removed.

[Fozzledick]

36. They should just report the truth:

Just officially state for the record that they were unable to find out what really happened because Bush* obstructed their investigation!

[jbfam4]

37. See also the Post story

Hastert Still Against Giving 9/11 Panel More Time
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 26, 2004; Page A04

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6948-2004Feb25.html

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) has hardened his opposition to extending the deadline for the independent commission studying the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, even as the panel's leaders pleaded yesterday for more time to complete their work.

Hastert told Republican lawmakers in a meeting yesterday that he will not bring up any legislation to grant the commission extra time, said spokesman John Feehery. Hastert rejected a personal plea from White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. on the extension Monday, Feehery said.

"He still doesn't feel the commission needs any extra time" and he believes that the panel "should complete its report as soon as possible," Feehery said, adding that a later deadline would make the commission "a political issue" during the presidential campaign.



Legislation to grant the panel extra time is moving ahead in the Senate, where Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) has indicated his support. After opposing the idea, President Bush reversed himself earlier this month and agreed to support an extension.

In another blow to the commission, officials announced yesterday that national security adviser Condoleezza Rice has rejected an invitation to testify publicly in front of the panel. Several senior Bush and Clinton administration officials, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, have agreed to appear at a public hearing in late March.
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They don't want to make it a political issue...give me a break. Bush has been playing politics with 9-11 since it happened. Obviously they know the outcome and it would not be to their advantage for it to comeout before the election.

[metisnation]

45. Il dem opinion

just my 2 cents...

u can bet illinoians are pounding his telephone office lines with complaints it has become survial for Hasert. The Il GOP has to win back seats in IL or is done for the next 20 years and they know it.

:kick:

[Zhade]

40. Kerrey Quitting Coverup?

The whole thing's a whitewash anyway. It starts with the premise that what the b*sh administration says happened that day is what actually happened. :eyes:

[yellowcanine]

43. They should all resign and say why.....

Shrub would have no choice but to allow appointment of a truly independent commission with robust investigative powers.

[WillyT]

44. That's One Hell Of An Idea !!!

Wish they had the balls to do it!!!

:shrug:

[LiviaOlivia]

46. Side note on Hastert's statement

Norm Scheiber's Daily Journal of Politics
02-26-04
http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml


MORE CYNICAL WHITE HOUSE KABUKI: This scene from today's Washington Post piece about the increasingly embattled 9/11 commission is just pure comedy:

Hastert told Republican lawmakers in a meeting yesterday that he will not bring up any legislation to grant the commission extra time, said spokesman John Feehery. Hastert rejected a personal plea from White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. on the extension Monday, Feehery said.

"He still doesn't feel the commission needs any extra time" and he believes that the panel "should complete its report as soon as possible," Feehery said, adding that a later deadline would make the commission "a political issue" during the presidential campaign.
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Right. And then Hastert laughed his Dr. Evil laugh and fired up his doomsday machine...

Needless to say, I find the idea of the White House getting overruled by Dennis Hastert utterly preposterous. The story is so obviously phony that it hardly needs rebutting. But I'll just leave you with this one thought: Given what we know about how much the White House values loyalty, and how brutally it punishes insubordination, why would Dennis Hastert's spokesman risk bragging to the Post about rebuffing the White House if the White House didn't want to be rebuffed?

[dusty64]

47. I'm so surprised

this story and ALL the others about the stonewalling of this panel did not make my local rag (I'm being sarcastic). Did this make it to yours?