Michael Savage to sue British government

[T_i_B]

Source: BBC

A US radio talk show host says he will sue the British government for defamation after being placed on a list of people banned from entering the UK.

Conservative political commentator Michael Savage, real name Michael Alan Weiner, is one of 22 people barred for fostering extremism or hate.

He told his radio audience that he was intending to sue British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, who he described as the "lunatic ... Home Secretary of England".

"To link me up with skinheads who are killing people in Russia, to put me in league with Hamas murderers who kill people on buses is defamation," he said. In an article posted on his website, he said he did not advocate violence but "traditional values".

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8035114.stm

[Atman]

1. His real name is WEINER?!

It's very telling that he chose "Savage" as his working name...but he'll always be just a weiner.

Oh, one more thing Mr. Weiner...hate is not a traditional value.

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[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Weiner the Whiner. Good luck with the lawsuit, you moran.

[Warpy]

27. "Weener" or "Whiner?"

That's the only thing I want to know.

I'm sure Her Majesty's government will know how to deal with this lawsuit.

[eppur_se_muova]

Yes, it's overcompensation. He's often referred to as "Savage Weiner" at DU. nt

[No Elephants]

58. I'd make that the Unsavage Weiner, but, then again, I call Wurtz his face UnJoe the

UnPlumber.

[Maine-ah]

74. M A Weiner

heh, say it together....I'm a Weiner.

:rofl:

[dipsydoodle]

2. Don't suppose he got round to saying

exactly how he intends to do that ?

[Kolesar]

8. First Amendment rights

...oh, wait... :eyes:

[harun]

3. Hope this serves as a wake-up call to hate radio. That it comes with a cost

and what they are doing might slide by in the USA but Europe knows what happens when you take people too far to the right. And they won't put up with it.

[newinnm]

54. Slippery Slope

I agree that he spews some very vile words but there if you limit speech from a right winger then its sets a precedent for when the next righty government (as much as it may seem improbable, at some point in the future, there will be a right leaning government) comes into power to limit lefties. The righies will use it and try to silence anyone of opposing views.

[madmusic]

57. If the U.S. government tried to banish him to England...

You'd have a point. That's not what is happening. England has its own laws and Republicans do not think "European" laws should have any influence on U.S. laws. Therefore our laws should not have any influence on theirs (har-har, says the world's moral police).

Dead issue.

[newinnm]

75. I know that but...

We are headed for a one world government and...............


nnnm

[Doug.Goodall]

4. I hope Weiner makes a public appearance in England to protest

Then I hope the British Government arrests his sorry butt and throws him in jail. Let the professional hater deal with a group of drunk soccer fans.

[dipsydoodle]

13. He'd have a slight logistical problem there

as he's barred from entry. :rofl:

[Doug.Goodall]

16. I'm saying he shows up anyway, one more charge on his docket sheet

Throw Weiner in prison for a year, then deport him. After Mikey arrives home, the British send him a bill for his room and board during his stay as a guest at one of England's intuitions.

[dipsydoodle]

18. Part of the background to this

is the associated problems with deporting someone once they're here. Hence the policy - keep the fuckers out in the first place. If he did fly in he'd be turned round at the airport whatever as was the Dutch guy a few weeks back.

If you had our laws in the USA there would be far less grief with the hate spewed out by your radio stations etc. whether it be in connection with religion, race / colour / ethnic background or sexual preference.

If I had my way I'd include people who tell inane jokes about banjos too. :)

[No Elephants]

59. You've just demonstrated the slippery slope problem with censoring speech based on content. Someone

posted here the other day that we are the last country on earth with almost total freedom of speech. That was sobering.

[atreides1]

32. They'll just put him on a return flight

He'll be held by airport police and then put on the first plane back to the USA.

[CoffeeCat]

38. LOL!

Drunk soccer fans! I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Too funny. Thanks for that.

[annabanana]

5. This oughta be good.. . A little reality check for deep denial diver. . .n/t

[eShirl]

6. That "lunatic" defamed him?

:rofl:

[No Elephants]

60. I like your sense of irony, eShirl.

[Lasher]

7. He can never find one of those activist judges when he needs one.

Too bad, so sad for Mr. Weenie.

[bulloney]

9. Don't you mean DEFINITION of character instead of DEFAMATION?

Or maybe you really mean DEFECATION, Mr. Weiner.

[rasputin1952]

11. LOL...

Excellent...:D

:hi:

[Hugin]

30. Thanks for saying that...

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Jeep789]

10. Best of luck, Mike

:rofl:

[Jeep789]

12. Savage crying over civil\human rights

Sorry Mike, you are not a citizen of the UK and therefor have nor rights in the UK. What is good fore the goose still applies to the Savage. Gotta love karma, don't you?

[Ganja Ninja]

14. It's long past time we started reviewing the FCC license of stations that

carry this hatemonger's programs. I can't possibly see how the general good of the public is served by stations that allow an internationally known extremist hatemonger a forum for his despicable rants.

[Berry Cool]

17. So hating people not like you and saying terrible things about them

is a "traditional value"?

I was unaware of this.

[No Elephants]

63. Sadly, it is. It probably took hold as soon as we learned to speak--and before that,

we expressed the same thing by simply clubbing each other to death.

[Happyhippychick]

19. He doesn't like being associated with nazi skinheads? Uh....

[tanyev]

20. Oh, good. He's going to make sure more people hear about it.

[LeftinOH]

21. Your free speech rights *do not* extend beyond our borders, Weiner -deal with it...n/t

[DrZeeLit]

22. Yeah... it's often referred to as The British Empire and doesn't give a rat's ass about eejits like

like Michael Savage.

Somewhere a few guys in powdered wigs are sipping tea and having a BIG LAUGH.

Michael Savage? Sue US? Bollocks.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. Next: Hamas MP sues for being put on the same list as Savage-Weiner

"It's an outrage, I tell you. The man is a lunatic".

[No Elephants]

62. THAT's hilarious! Thanks.

[NewJeffCT]

67. LOL

that's classic. wish I could recommend a reply!

:rofl:

[Sultana]

24. Bitch Plz

:evilgrin:

[Soylent Brice]

25. translation of Mr. Weiner's statements:

[Dawgs]

28. Heard on the news this morning that it's not about free speech, it's about hate.

The British government has every right to keep out those that they think don't belong.

I personally doubt that he will even sue. This guy is all talk.

[Dappleganger]

29. I hope he loses millions doing this...

A country can keep out whomever they please...the US does this ALL THE TIME and GBR has no 1st Amendment to fight, so let the Weiner Man have at it.
It's only more proof of what a bully and jerk he really is.

[VermontProgressive]

34. This is such a great example of Right Wing Hubris....

After 8 years of bullying the world, these people have a sense of entitlement that goes beyond rational, this guy thinks he can do
whatever he wants and "how dare they" not recognize his superiority and wealth, it will be very interesting to see how this all plays
out and if there will be anti British protests.:wtf:

[redqueen]

42. Hello VermontProgressive!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[myrna minx]

69. Welcome to DU, VermontProgressive.

:hi:

[The Wizard]

31. Now is the time for Weiner

to start spending money for lawyers. He should be encouraged to go forth and sue. He should have his listeners send all their money for his legal fees as this money could be used to get right wing lunatics elected. Attention conservatives: Michael Savage needs your money to fight the evil British Empire. This is an extension of the tea party. Send all your money to Savage Weiner.

[No Elephants]

61. Sadly, the free publicity will more than offset his legal fees. TV time costs.

[primavera]

68. I wonder

Being splashed all over the news as a hate monger unwelcome in civilized nations is publicity that may not serve him as well as he imagines.

[harmonicon]

33. this is so great

so great.

HA!!

My favourite thing about this is that by making such a stink about it, he's only raising his profile as a hate monger the world over. Too rich.

[InfiniteThoughts]

35. why isn't our dear old friend - Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter in the list

hope the brits & the rest of the world ban them too ...

[Javaman]

36. I hope they suck his bank account dry. nt

[NBachers]

37. Annoying little weiner dog yaps furiously on way to dog pound

Savage Weiner doesn't seem to be enjoying his sink to the bottom of the relevance pool. Soon he'll be stuck in the muck along with other decaying remains of the republican extinction.

[kiranon]

39. He will probably need to bring his lawsuit in England which should be interesting.

[depakid]

40. Excellent- a test case for hate radio hosts

with a loudmouthed and unsymapthetic plaintiff.

Props to the Brits.

[radfringe]

41. heee-heee-haaa-haaa

[DebbieCDC]

43. Good luck with that

If I understand correctly, proving libel or defamation in the British system is a WHOLE lot more difficult than in the US. Maybe this case will bankrupt him and if there's resulting bad PR get him fired for good.

Next up, limpballs.... :evilgrin:

[Zen Democrat]

44. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Weiner is hateful AND stupid!

[SerfinUSA]

45. Good luck with that one Weiner

[myrna minx]

70. Welcome to DU, SerfinUSA

I love your name. :hi:

[SerfinUSA]

73. Yeah, I'm a serf--Thanks for welcome

[nichomachus]

46. Isn't he a big advocate of a country's right to keep out undesirables?

[Jim Lane]

53. My thought, too. I was wondering if he denounced the Bushies for excluding left-wing journalists

Somebody with a stronger stomach than mine could probably go through Savage's past rantings and find praise for such exclusions and for the no-fly lists.

The next Hypocrisy Bowl will pit Savage against Governor Rick "Let me secede but help me fight swine flu first" Perry. Up in the booth, doing color commentary for Fox, will be some of the Bushbots in Congress who are now denouncing federal deficits.

[Hepburn]

47. LMBO....

...what's his defense? What he says is really, really not hateful?

:rofl:

[grace0418]

48. Here's hoping the lawyers he hires will drain his bank account then let him

twist in the wind.

[The Stranger]

49. Does this mean that worthless, bigoted piece of shit is going to the UK?

[skygazer]

50. It's not defamation if it's true, idiot

And just as the US can put anyone it wants on its no-fly lists, or prevent specific people from coming here (which I'm sure he defends as patriotic), the UK can do the same.


Morans.

[47of74]

72. More like definition of character rather than defamation...

[krabigirl]

51. Good luck with that one, loser.

[and-justice-for-all]

52. UK Government will just laugh...

His hate speech is not welcomed in the UK and if we could, we would keep him from returning to the US; Because we do not want his sorry nazi ass here either.

"he said he did not advocate violence" LIAR.

[Turborama]

55. "Michael Savage tells his listeners to boycott Britain"

Source: The Times

Mike Harvey in San Francisco, Richard Ford and Frances Gibb
The American “shock jock” radio host Michael Savage, who was included on a Home Office list of 16 people banned from entering the country, last night urged his listeners to boycott Britain.

He told his audience that Americans should not travel to Britain or buy British goods, and delivered a personal message to Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, who made the decision to include him on the list of unwanted foreigners: “Unless you remove my name forthwith, unless you admit you made a mistake, I will bring a major libel suit against you personally and I will win.”

Mr Savage opened fire on the Home Secretary on the conservative news website WorldNetDaily , where he said that his message to her and the British people was: “Shame on you. Shame that you’ve fallen to such a low level.”

“It’s interesting to me that here I am, a talk show host who does not advocate violence, who advocates patriotic traditional values — borders, language, culture — who is now on a list banned in England.

Continues: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6238096.ece

[Nihil]

65. This just gets better & better ...

Not only are we in Britain being spared a RW hate-radio icon
but it looks like we'll get fewer of his dumbass followers too!

:woohoo:

One thing that will definitely improve the image of Americans abroad
is to keep the loud-mouth bigots at home and just let the sensible
ones out.

:hi:

[pepperbear]

56. Oh dear. That's not cricket. n/t

[No Elephants]

64. Used to be, you could not sue "the King," aka the British government. Wiki says

that was drastically altered in 1946. I have trouble believing it was altered so much that the UK can be sued over its immigration policies, but who knows?

American judges can impose penalties upon people who bring frivolous lawsuit and THEIR LAWYERS, which really helps make lawyers more careful about which dumb cases they fly into court with. I imagine the UK has the same, but who knows?

[LeftishBrit]

66. Does he also advocate...

that every British Communist, ex-Communist, or Person-Who-Looks-A-Bit-Like-An-Arab who has had trouble getting into America should sue the American government?

Didn't think so.

A country has the right to let in or exclude whoever it wishes.

[Mad_Dem_X]

71. Oh, that's precious

Go for it, Weiner! :rofl: