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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:48 AM
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Gonzales says US should be open to torturing again
Source: Raw Story

Gonzales says US should be open to torturing again
By John Byrne

Published: May 4, 2009

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Gonzales was taking part in an interview by MSNBC’s Dan Abrams along with former Bush Attorney General John Ashcroft. The session was conducted at American Jewish University Apr. 27. The full transcript is available here.

Abrams repeatedly asked Gonzales if the techniques the Bush administration approved amounted to torture, and whether President Barack Obama was correct in releasing them. Gonzales said he disagreed with Obama’s decision.

“It does provide, in my judgment, important information to the enemy,” Gonzales quipped. Then he provided a more notable remark.

“And then secondly, to say that we have now discontinued these techniques,” he continued, “they may be necessary in the future. And by disclosing it, means you take them off the table and they can never be used again.”

Read more: http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/05/04/gonzales-says-us-should-consider-torturing-again/
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:49 AM
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1. evil. (nt)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:53 AM
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6. What's worse than "evil?"
Evil with access to a complicit, corporate-media megaphone.

Really, though...why are we (still) even hearing from these fuckwads?
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:41 PM
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43. Good men who allow evil to flourish: that's worse than evil.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:50 AM
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2. Crazy evil.
He belongs on a psych ward.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:52 AM
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3. They'll never get it
we don't torture, period. I don't care who in the world knows that.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:53 AM
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4. Let Alberto and his good buddy Asscroft be the first and last in line
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:53 AM
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5. Gonzales is not off the hook yet
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:55 AM
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7. What an evil son of a bitch.
I hope, god I hope that someone somewhere is saving these little moments of insight into what was the most corrupt, evil, disgusting regime the United States has ever produced so that maybe far into the future we can look back and clearly see how evil these pigs are.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:59 AM
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9. That's what DU is...
We've been saving all these moments since January, 2001.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:47 PM
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25. AND, stupid son of a bitch also. He ain't the brightest guy in the world.
Just look at some of his press conferences to see how much a dumb motherfucker he really is.
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:12 AM
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42. That's how I see him
Too stupid to figure out how to be evil.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:57 AM
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8. When the Communists did it, we called it torture, and we condemned them for it.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:00 AM
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10. We've never had uglier people in any administration. These people are monsters.
http://skeptisys.files.wordpress.com.nyud.net:8090/2008/05/alberto_gonzalez_32.jpg

It's like he's standing just out of reach, menacing the rest of
the world, still. Hope fate holds some surprises for these fools.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:01 AM
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11. He is a traitor to the constitution n/t
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:03 AM
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12. No wonder Gonzales still hasn't found work!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:07 AM
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13. Torquemada needs to go to jail and John needs an editor. n/t
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:07 AM
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14. Can we practice torture with Gonzales? lets start with the Garrotte
Edited on Mon May-04-09 11:25 AM by AlphaCentauri


I mean we have to be trained first, don't we? Mr. Gonzales
:sarcasm:
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:08 AM
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15. All I want to see from this assclown


n/t
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:38 AM
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18. Can't wait
to see him as well as the others who were responsible.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:12 AM
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16. Someone please send this guy to jail.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:15 AM
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17. If we don't prosecute the torturers, and impeach Bybee, they can rise again.
That Gonzalez would even dare suggest using torture again makes it clear that prosecution is necessary.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:43 AM
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19. I agree, Republicans.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:46 AM
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20. Oh, like I'd take Gonzo's advice on anything
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 11:59 AM
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21. Isn't this asshole in shackles and orange coveralls yet? How about we
Edited on Mon May-04-09 12:01 PM by salguine
torture Alberto Gonzales and see if he still thinks it's great.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:00 PM
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22. So why did we take out Saddam Hussein??? According to the bush cabal, after the "wmd" bullshit
excuse fell apart, it was because Saddam Hussein was "worse than Hitler" and an "evil-doer" who "TORTURED PEOPLE".

If the USA TORTURES people, we are WORSE THAN SADDAM HUSSEIN's REGIME was.

It's truly that simple. Even the rightwingnuts should be able to understand it.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:02 PM
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23. I vote "life in prison without parole."
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 07:07 AM
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40. Too good for him....
...unless we can make sure he also gets life in prison after death.

JMHO
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:08 PM
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24. I agree ... we should torture Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:55 PM
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26. Just begging for prosecution.
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mattfromnossa Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:01 PM
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27. Obviously once a person decides to violate their own moral code
because of a goal -- no matter how laudatory that goal might be -- they have begun their path down a very slippery slope. It becomes thereafter just a matter of raising the ante a bit, until there are no rules which cannot be broken or bent.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:02 PM
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28. Hey - how come nobody's nominated Gonzo for SCOTUS this time around?!!!
he's a Hispanic...!!!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:39 PM
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29. Not even for Gonzales should we torture, no matter what info we'd learn from him. . .
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:41 PM
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30. WOW - ya gotta realize that this is being read in Russia, China, India, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela -
.
.
.

and another hundred nations . . .

Then blogged, twittered and e-mailed all over the globe.

USA is killing itself with its own aggression.

WELL . . .

Isn't that what ALL EMPIRES IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND DID???

USA's quest for global domination is gonna be it's downfall.

That's the way empires go ya know??

Read a book or two USA!

REAL Ones!!

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eggplant Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:54 PM
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31. I don't understand why this surprises anyone
Whether he believes it or not, he has to either say "yea, it was great and we should keep doing it", or he has to admit culpability. There isn't any middle ground.

Personally, I'm happy to let The Hague deal with him.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:06 PM
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32. On the bright side, he didn't say "I don't recall.,"
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:09 PM
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33. The next "panel" he participates in should be at a defendant's table.
And then he should be convicted and imprisoned.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:12 PM
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34. good... let's start with Gonzo
regarding attorney firings for starters... let's see how much he can suddenly remember while water is poured over his face, or while there's a dog nipping at his naughty bits....
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:23 PM
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35. ARREST THIS MOTHERFUCKING TRAITOR!
NOW!

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 05:34 AM
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36. Get him. Get him on anything - jaywalking, tax evasion, I don't care
Just get him the Hell away from civilization.
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:00 AM
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37. Why oh why
Are they still letting these dirtbags clog up the airwaves?
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:18 AM
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38. Because if we give them enough rope and an open mike,
they'll hang themselves.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:21 AM
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39. Fuck'em both. Jail'em both.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:33 AM
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41. he really enjoys that hole he's digging.
he's the kind of asshole that doesn't know when to shut up and thinks if he keeps talking he will come up with some sort of brilliant insight to justify his fuck ups.

he's one evil fucker.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:42 PM
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44. What is that Mr. Gonzales? Volunteering yourself to be first in line? What a noble example.
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