Drudge: Woman dies of heart attack while watching 'The Passion of Christ'

[NewJerseyDem]

http://www.drudgereport.com/

**Exclusive 4:09 PM ET, 2/25/04** KAKE TV in Wichita, Kansas set report to a woman, in her 50s, suffered a heart attack during a morning screening of Mel Gibson's controversial film PASSION OF THE CHRIST. "She later died at the hospital," a station source tells the DRUDGE REPORT. The report is scheduled to be lead story on the station's 5 PM news. "She went into seizure during one of the film's most dramatic moments," a station source explains. The woman attended a 9:30am screening at Warren East Theaters in Wichita... Developing...

[tom_paine]

1. Maybe Drudge got this one right

But why patronize his shitty little Bushevik site?

Drudge is aligned with the Forces of Evil.

[PartyPooper]

2. Don't the theatre owners provide *warnings* to their patrons?

"This film contains excessive violence. It may not be suitable for those with heart or other health problems"

[htuttle]

4. I think they only do that...

...for the movies where they hand out 3D glasses.

[Fixated]

6. You mean.....

The Passion isn't in 3D? Well damnit, who wants my ticket?

[meegbear]

5. They can do like those 1950's schlock horror flix ...

"So shocking, medical teams are standing by!"

"Buy an insurance policy giving your family $100,000 if you die of fright from this film!"

"No one will be seated during the terrifying 'Judas' scene!"

[soleft]

3. There are many small children who are going to be irrepabably damaged

from seeing this film

[nostamj]

18. uh, it's rated R - must be 17 to see it

parents who bring children to it should be prosecuted for abuse.

for that matter, theatre owners must enforce that rating and deny admission to minors. right?

[soleft]

19. No, if you're under 17 you have to be accompanied by an adult

Many wacko adults are going to be taking their kids

[slackmaster]

38. I saw Eraserhead when I was about 25

Screwed me up for life.

:freak:

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

45. Exorcist

Is the one that ruined me.

[Ripley]

81. Wow...someone else!

I saw it when I was 19. One of the people I was with in the theatre ran out screaming. That has to be the most disturbing movies I have ever seen (straight or not).

:freak:

[maxrandb]

40. Someone on here had a great post the other day

about taking their 6 and 10 year old to see Kill Bill. Had me ROTFL

[Carni]

47. Oh yeah they're taking them

Do a google search on The passion/ taking children or something like that and prepare to be sick. I searched the topic last night and found comments like this:

"Most images of Christ on the cross are too tame," says Matt Stoehr, pastor of the West Coast Christian Center in Vista, Calif. "They minimize the sacrifices he made. Scripture tells us that he was beaten to a pulp. I think seeing that on screen will be more powerful for kids than any sermon."

[progressivebydesign]

43. Churches are renting theatres to circumvent that rating...

And.. they'r encouraging parents to take children as young as 10 to the movie. Sick people.. sick, sick people.

So.. the Bible has lots of other interesting stories.. like people killing children, stoning neighbors to death, sacrificing animals.. if Gibson decides to graphically portray those things too.. will they be running to see that? Violence is violence.. It's freaking me out that people are flocking to this, and defending the dehumanizing violence because they say it's a "true" story. Prove it, folks. Prove it's true... it's a story... and Gibson and his pals are making millions off of the exploitation of the story of Jesus' death. How Christian is that???

[Zhade]

49. It approaches blood cultism. It fetishizes Jesus' death.

Regardless of your beliefs, watching a 45-minute beating is NOT a spiritual, uplifting experience.

[Muddleoftheroad]

59. So it's sick because you don't agree

I was speaking with a Jewish friend of mine today. First knowledge of Holocaust: Age 6. First reading of Diary of Anne Frank: Age 9. Ditto photos of Holocaust at 9.

How is this different?

No children should see it without family. With family, it gets to be a learning experience about Christ.

[treepig]

78. you're funny

"it gets to be a learning experience about Christ"

rotflmao

[Muddleoftheroad]

79. Clearly you see a joke that is not obvious

It is one thing to read a book and know what happened. It is another to see a movie and be reminded of just how much he suffered. How is that funny?

[treepig]

83. two points

first, a learning experience about Christ perhaps would involve actually learning about him (i.e., his life and teachings); instead the movie focuses on something quite tangential to his mission on earth (the depravity of certain people). in a similar vein, would you suggest i take my young children to the movie "Caligula" for the learning experience?

second, if the "learning experience" is the key here, the experience is rather deficient considering the phlethora of historical inaccuracies in the movie (as discussed elsewhere in a thread i can't locate right now, but consult http://boloboffin.blogspot.com/2004_02_22_boloboffin_archive.html#107765041701945131 for more details).

[Muddleoftheroad]

85. Two points

First, most of the people seeing the movie know about Christ -- his life and his teachings. This movie apparently focuses more on his death which is integral to his life.

Second, no movie I have ever seen has been completely accuate for history. Movies, at best, get a majority of facts right and then can set a mood or tone. However, that doesn't minimalize the impact that seeing Christ suffer can have for many of us.

[Ripley]

87. Now that is rich.

First, most of the people seeing the movie know about Christ -- his life and his teachings...

You mean like Smirk who wants to see this movie badly? You mean like Smirk and his followers who say he is the Philosopher they most admire

How can anyone admire his teachings and still condone an invasion with a huge military force on a backwards country where 10s of thousands of civilians, innocent men, women and children be knowingly killed?

Your second point of course is true. But the theatres rented out in my town emptied out yesterday with people saying things like "I just witnessed a true account of Jesus" while crying.

[treepig]

88. exactly

the so-called "christians" in this country (at least the jerry falwell unsilent minority type) - seem to know absolutely nothing about christ and his teachings. after all, on the political spectrum christ was a raving communist, which sharply contrasts with his american followers "gimme, gimme, gimme" mentality.

further, if his death is so integral to his life, then wouldn't it be important to get the details correct? or does no one give a damn anymore as long as the emotional experience kicks in? that's all the fundies seem to care about, emotions from the start (ooh evolution is wrong, because i get a warm fuzzy feeling thinking about how god lovingly created me) to finish (death, in this case Christ's). i suppose if people want to live in a fantasy world they have that right, but it just irks me a bit (i've gotten over my initial laughing stage) when they call it an "educational" experience.

[Ripley]

89. Our country is in the midst of another bloodlust era.

And surprise! Christians are all for it! Your point above about Caligua is right on. In fact, my answer to those who say "Liberals should be forced to see this movie" is that THEY should be forced to look at the photographs of mangled, mutliated bodies in Iraq and of lynching victims in America.

I just read a post in GD by a DUer's husband who saw the movie. He said it was a scary feeling of anger in the theater and as they left, one guy screamed "Thank Jesus Christ for George W Bush!"

I don't doubt this reaction for one minute...just surprised it was in California, not here in the south.

[treepig]

90. yeah, caligula

i was actually taken to that movie by somebody who told me it was a documentary and would be "educational" - and while i suspect that most of the event depicted had some historical basis, the portrayal of that era in the movie as unrelentingly depraved was no more accurate than the current discussion of how the Passion of Christ can be education about his life.

after all, perhaps the romans did some good, too? as discussed by "The Judean People's Front"

1. And what have the Romans ever given us in return?! 2. The aquaduct? 1. What? 2. The aquaduct. 1. Oh yeah, yeah, they did give us that, that's true. 3. And sanitation. 4. Yes, the sanitation, remember what the city used to be like, Reg. 1. Yes OK, I'll grant you, the aquaduct and sanitation are two things the Romans HAVE done. 5. And the roads! 1. Well yes obviously the roads, I mean the roads go without saying, don't they! But apart from the sanitation, the aquaduct and the roads... 6. Irrigation! 7. Medicine! 8. Education! 1. Yeah, all right, fair enough. 9. And the wine... 10. Yes, that's something we'd really miss if the Romans left. 11. Public baths! 4. And it's safe to walk the streets at night now Reg. 10. Yes, they certainly know how to keep order. Only ones who could in a place like this! 1. All right. But APART from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?! 2. Brought peace!

[Muddleoftheroad]

92. Pax Romana

Was peace, but not exactly peaceful to the millions conquered by Rome.

[Muddleoftheroad]

93. Educational

It sure is an educational experience and an experience in faith.

As for evolution, it my belief God created mankind. How he did so could easily be accounted for by evolution.

[treepig]

95. that's one scary mentality

correct me if i'm wrong, but you're saying that seeing the brutal suffering of christ, well out of context of his overall life, increases your (or anybody's) your faith in god/belief in christ?

anyhow, that's what i call scary - but as others have pointed out bloodlust seems to be alive and well.

by contrast, if somebody made a movie based on christ's "love your neighbor as yourself" teachings - definitely a concept worth embracing - then i'd be all for learning more about this guy.

as an aside, too bad mel didn't make a movie showing the intense suffering of iraqi civilians at the hands of the christian leaders of our country over the past 15 years or so. now that might have actually served a useful purpose in society.

[Muddleoftheroad]

96. Out of context?

I never see anything about Christ out of context. Most legitimate Christians wouldn't either.

However, how he died IS integral to the story. The suffering and crucifixion are part of how he died for our sins.

[Muddleoftheroad]

91. They know his teachings

They just don't follow them.

[Goldmund]

22. I think that the concept...

...that children can be harmed by seeing a movie is inherently anti-liberal.

[arcos]

23. I tend to agree...

but you have to admit there are movies that CAN have that effect, especially on really young children. I agree, not an R-rated movie though.

[Goldmund]

32. Just like any experience can have an effect.

That's what parents are there for, to help children absorb and process experiences. That's how children grow. This V-chip ideology is like wanting chidren to grow up in a sterile white-walled room while their parents are out making money, and they'll turn out OK as long as they don't see anything bad. I think children should be exposed to evertything this world is, the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the bad, and parents should be there to help them grow from experiencing the world.

For example, I remember seeing "The Day After" when I was 10. I was absolutely horrified. As I should have been. I had nighmares about it. As I should have been. And to this day, my feelings about nuclear weapons are painted by those nightmares. As they should be.

Maybe a child that sees this Passion flick will also have nightmares about religious zealotry.

[arcos]

35. great post...

and yes, you are right.

[Muddleoftheroad]

60. Or maybe it will bring them closer to God

Horrors!

[Goldmund]

99. I haven't seen the movie

But if it's half like what it seems like it is, then I hope it won't bring them closer to the god that Mel Gibson seems to believe in.

[roguevalley]

66. its essentially a snuff movie. Nothing good here. If you want a

rule of thumb, consider this: If you wouldn't want
your child to see it happen in real life because it
might impair them, then don't let them watch this
either. Its a blood and abuse orgy.

[Goldmund]

98. Isn't the separation...

...of reality, ie "real life", and fantasy, ie movies, books, theater -- a very important thing for a young child to learn? Especially since so much in our civilization, like art, is not meant to be perceived in the same manner as reality.

It is reality only in the sense that it's a window into the mind of its creator.

[NashVegas]

44. That May Not Stop Some People

From my local newspaper:

For _______, a mother of two grown children, the story of Christ's suffering, death and resurrection is so important that she thinks the violence should not prevent parents from taking grade-school children.

''By the time a child has reached the age of 6, their cognizance of good and evil is beginning to take shape,'' said the woman, a member of Paragon Mills Church of Christ. ''I think the younger you teach children about Jesus Christ, the more likely they are to accept him.'

Everyone else in the article strongly disagreed.

[proud patriot]

7. :-(

I think it would be too heartwrenching for me as well .

[rednek_Liberal]

8. CHRIST...

Don't people know .... All Crucifixin's after breakfast..

[llmart]

9. Maybe Mel

will attend her funeral (NOT).

[damnyankee2601]

10. Why is this even here?

What do we care what some intellectually challenged Republican flak posts on his lame-ass web site?

How many people get heart attacks every day? Why do you think doctors call the Bible Belt the Stroke Belt, anyway? So what if this one happened in a movie theater?

[Yavin4]

11. It's Probability Stats Stupid

If you get a large enough crowd, someone somewhere will dies of a heart attack. It's called probability. I'm sure that there were people who died of heart attacks at the Lord of the Rings. It's just that Drudge nor any other news source didn't report it.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. Ding, ding, ding! The winning answer! n/t

[jus_the_facts]

13. didn't the same thing happen with 'Saving Private Ryan'?

....seems I recall hearing the same thing when it first came out? :shrug:

[KansDem]

14. I believe this happened in Disneyland...

when the park in Anaheim, CA opened its "Haunted House" ride. I remember hearing about someone having a heart attack during one of the first rides through it. Supposedly, Disneyland closed the House to "tame it down a bit" to avoid future incidents.

I've been through the "Haunted House" several times, but always wished I could have experienced the untamed version. :cry:Waaa! I wanna go on the "untamed" version!!

Say, maybe it was all P.R. to boost ridership? :shrug:

[Yavin4]

15. Funny That You Mentioned Disney

Up until last week or so, Disney never ever acknowledged a death at one of their parks, even though statistically it's impossible for there never being a death. What Disney does is send the corpse out of the park in an ambulance and say that the person died at the hospital or on the way to the hospital, never in the park though.

I believe that someone died there in the past week or so.

[nostamj]

20. yes, 'Goofy' was run over by a float

well, an actor in a Goofy suit, of course...

[PartyPooper]

25. There was an earlier death at Disneyland.

I believe it was last summer...a man was killed on a "train" ride of sorts...whilst the ride was in a tunnel. There was some "mechanical malfunction". An ambulance arrived at the scene. But, the man was already dead. They closed the ride. And, as I recall, Michael Eisner even commented on the tragedy.

:-(

[KansDem]

29. Deaths and injuries at Disneyland (CA)

http://www.rotten.com/library/travel/disneyland/

scroll down for list

[spinbaby]

94. Urban legend

http://www.snopes.com/disney/parks/declare.htm

[BR_Parkway]

21. Someone on CNN earlier was whining that

1st day numbers weren't going to be larger than Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter - in essence, downcrying the fact that secular subjects were getting more attention. Waa, Waa

[slackmaster]

37. Thank you for saying it

My thoughts exactly.

[stopbush]

16. Flash to Bill Murray in "Scrooged"

"You can't buy this kind of publicity!!"

[SidDithers]

42. I had exactly the same reaction...nt.

Sid

[ronnykmarshall]

17. Must have been the scene

when Jesus fights Godzilla.

[Jack from Charlotte]

24. Wait until all the sequels come out including,,,,,,

possibly...

Lethal Jesus: The Double Cross.
Lethal Jesus: That's Funny, You Don't Look Savior-ish
Lethal Jesus: 2 Fast 2 Jewish
Jesus Christ, Superhype
Pop 'n' Lock Jesus: Electric Messiah
Passion: A Date with Lethal Jesus
Jesus Christ: Jerusalem Nights
The Passion: God Money I'll Do Anything For You
Crouching Jesus, Hidden Agenda
Jesus Christ--Beat Me, Hurt Me, Make Me Recite the Psalms
Jesus Christ: Aramaic Graffiti
Jesus Christ: We Were Saviors Once...And Hung
Jesus Christ: 8 Simple Rules About Crucifying My Savior

[Yavin4]

27. more sequels

"Jason vs. Freddy vs. Jesus" - three way death match

[mike1963]

54. Jesus kicks ass in Holy Rollerball

;-)

[Esurientes]

30. Hilarious!!

Thanks for a laugh I really needed!

"Saviors Once--and Hung"

Looking forward to work tomorrow so I can tell the only other liberal at work about that!

[Muddleoftheroad]

61. Ha.

Gee, I can just picture people making the same jokes about Mohammed.

Not.

Funny how everybody thinks it's OK to mock Christianity, not Islam. Mocking Islam is intolerant. Mocking Christianity is, at least here, common.

Sure, go ahead, let the right drive that wedge. Wooboy won't you be surprised when you lose votes you've counted on for fucking decades.

The African-American community is religious. They don't much like mocking their God or criticizing the fact that they believe in him. Do it often enough and they might just vote for the other guy. Or, more likely, they will simply stay at home.

[Voltaire99]

68. Whoa!

Don't judge his jokes until you've walked a mile in his sandals, Muddle!

He's obviously satirizing the violent content of Gibson's Passion, not mocking Christianity per se.

[Muddleoftheroad]

76. It's not obvious

And mocking Christ in the movie is still mocking Christ.

[northzax]

101. mocking christ in the movie

is the same as mocking christ? does that mean that when I laugh at the Jesus portrayal in the original South Park short, when he gets into a fight with Santa, that I'm laughing at Jesus?

[Robb]

75. 75% of the U.S. identifies themselves as Christian

Less than a half of 1% are followers of Islam.

I believe the African-American community understands the distinction between poking fun at the big dog, and kicking the little one every time you walk by.

The only "wedge" is between people who can take criticism and jokes at their expense, and those who can't. If you think Christians are going to stay home because one party or another makes fun of them from time to time, you obviously don't think very highly of Christians. :thumbsdown:

[Muddleoftheroad]

77. I doubt we do

Sorry, we've been the kicked for 400 years. It grows old.

As for jokes, they are simply part of a pattern. The pattern is especially obvious here where rampant anti-religionists assault Christians at every turn. If you think we don't notice or don't get pissed, you are wrong.

[Robb]

80. You think I made it up?

Read it yourself. The number is actually 76.5% (down from 86.2% in 1990), which makes me feel pretty good about my memory.

"Kicked for 400 years", my left berry. Feel free to get pissed, just don't expect a lot of sympathy from the other 23.5% of us. A lot of us equate the idignation with Jack Welch whining about how much he had to pay for parking that day.

[Muddleoftheroad]

82. I will give you the benefit of the doubt

And assume you didn't realize I meant African-Americans had been kicked for 400 years. Now we are not going to stand idly by and get kicked because of our God, our religion and our faith.

[Robb]

84. Rightly given

Thought that part sounded a little strange.

But the issue is still this (unless you think people are poking fun exclusively at African-American Christians); if you're part of the largest demographic, it's harder to claim persecution.

[Muddleoftheroad]

86. As I thought

However, just because we are in the majority for the first time in 400 years, doesn't mean we won't take offense and be driven away. You will likely find the same result among Hispanic voters.

Drive us from the party at your peril.

[arlib]

104. Hey...

...driving you from this board would suffice for meself.

[Sterling]

105. Not the same IMHO

You are eqauting racial oppression to religious.

[smirkymonkey]

39. Great list and Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Zhade]

Oh man, you're gonna get dinged for some of these...!

I, of course, found them pretty humorous! :D

[abracadabra]

64. Lethal Jesus !!! yeah yoo rite

love that Lethal Jesus list--

too bad " muddle of the road "is a such a poor sport.

Well muddle, I'll FOR SURE mock sum A-rabs for you too if you need an "even" score .

even Christians need a litle humor(more hue=more light) at the end of a long day of converting (--oops --I mean imposing their beliefs on) the world--

"Beat Me, Hurt Me, Make Me Recite the Psalms"!!!!

love it

.

[Voltaire99]

67. LOL (n/t)

[Zero Gravitas]

26. How many die during other movies?

I am sure this woman is not the first to have heart attack while watching the movie. How do we know the movie and the heart attack are related as everybody seems to be assuming?

[PartyPooper]

28. Good question. Also, I'd ask, "How many die at church services?"

"How many die at ball games, car races, rock concerts, the opera, the ballet, etc.?"

Sorry, I don't know the answers.

:shrug:

[Voice_of_Europe]

72. Die of Boredom

in church that usually happens to me...

[Dover]

31. My aunt died of a heart attack too...on the toilet. Location, location,

location. Do you suppose Sludge would find that headline worthy?

[Ilsa]

51. Interesting. It's usually a stroke that takes them out on the toilet.

You know, a lotta strain, a big push, and valsalva manuever, and whammo, you got yourself a stroke.

My condolences to your family, though.

[kskiska]

33. When I was 7 or 8 and preparing for First Communion

the nuns told us a story of a little girl was so overjoyed at receiving the Lord for the first time that she died suddenly in church.

[Voltaire99]

70. Ack! Reminds me of...

...how we were warned not to consume food an hour before our First Communion. God would know! The host might jump out of our mouth if we did! Good little Catholic children, we took it all so seriously. Between all the talk of eating Christ's body and drinking his blood, I felt alternately excited and woozy. (I trace my lifelong interest in horror movies to this early grand guignol experience.)

Then, somehow, while waiting for the big event, I got a papercut. I put my bleeding finger to my lips...

...and one of the kids told on me! "He's eating! He's eating!"

Thirty years later, I still remember that. Little ratfink motherf*cker, how I hoped he'd choke on the communion wafer when the time came! ;-)

[mumon]

34. If she had only rented "The Exorcist"

she'd still be alive today!

[nodehopper]

36. first the lightning, now this

first the assistand director gets struck by lightning twice, and then the actor gets struck by lightning, and now someone dies watching it. um... maybe there is a message.

[Ilsa]

52. I thought the lightening stories were jokes.

Were they for real? I thought they were in The Onion.

[Scout]

74. at least one was real

the actor who played Jesus was on tv, and he said he was hit once by lightning.

don't know about the other claims

[robertpaulsen]

41. I know Mel made the movie to bring people closer to Jesus

but not THAT close!

[DemocraticDonkey]

46. dumb catholic school

I go to a catholic school (I'm not catholic), and the school is renting out 2 theatres on wednesday to indoctrinate I mean show the movie to our school.

I'm quitely gathering some kids who aren't gonna go.

I guess if you are religious, good for you, but since I'm not, I refuse to see someone get crucified for "entertainment".

[0007]

56. I can appreciated that!

[arikara]

58. Good for you, DemocraticDonkey

My daughter and I were discussing this movie and we agree that neither of us find graphic violence to be spiritually uplifting or an enjoyable form of entertainment.

I would rather go see My Cousin Vinnie and have some laughs.

[laylah]

73. My good friend in Denver

told me that she wasn't about to go see a movie that makes one angry and hate...she can sit in Denver rush hour and do that :evilgrin:

Jenn

[Goldmund]

100. So if you're not religious

How did you end up in catholic school?

And man, what's it like???

[Zhade]

48. Oops - misread that.

I thought it said "Drudge dies of heart attack while watching 'The Passion of Christ'"!

[Zhade]

50. Oh, GREAT. Now the false Christians will hail her as a "martyr".

:eyes:

Btw, when I say false Christians, I assume any Christians here know that I mean the typical ultraconservative "God-hates-fags!" kind of alleged Christian - neoChristians, if you will.

People who actually follow the teachings of Jesus are okay in my book.

[mike1963]

53. If I keep hearing about this idiotic movie, I'll find a way to give myself

a heart attack...
:grr:

[ConcernedCanuk]

55. Aljazeera.net is carrying the story too -

.
.
.

Passion of Christ shocks audiences

Thursday 26 February 2004, 4:17 Makka Time, 1:17 GMT

The climactic crucifixion scene of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ was so intense for one unfortunate cinema-goer that she died of a heart attack.

The violent, bloody portrayal of Jesus' final hours was too much for the 56-year-old Peggy Scott in Kansas, whose untimely death stopped the film on Wednesday.

The Wichita woman was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital and the county coroner's office said an autopsy would be performed.

Many others emerged from the morning showing visibly shaken by a film that at times they found extremely difficult to watch.

MORE

I agree with previous posters that indicate that people die all the time, and we realize that this death will receive an unusually large amount of press.

It was one of the earliest screenings, and for someone to make a definite effort to be one of the first to attend, MUST have been aware of it's controversial content.

Not to belittle the tragedy of someone dying, but for all we know she could have choked on popcorn . . . .

Regardless, the press will soon be having a field-day with this, no need to go on and on about all the murdering going on in Iraq at the hands of the "coalition" . . .

The BFEE will love yet another "distraction" from their responsibilities regarding the deaths and maiming of thousands as a result of their invasion and occupation of a country that was not at war - -

ok ok

end of rant . . . .

[Muddleoftheroad]

62. Al Jazeera

The Faux News of the Arab world.

[Mari333]

57. .........................

http://landoverbaptist.org/news0304/passionflyer.html

[scarface2004]

63. didn t christ say...

i neva fucked over anyone didn t have it comin to em!

[thingfish]

65. Maybe she'll wake up three days from now!

No?

[Voltaire99]

69. LOL!

Best joke of the bunch, Thingfish. :-)

[Voice_of_Europe]

71. non-Happy-End

Maybe she didn't know that they crucify him in the end.
A non-happy-end is still very rare in the western movie industry...

^_^

[mallard]

97. Re: Asia Times - Vietnamese Suing For Agent Orange Victims

Speaking of non-happy endings, Vietnamese victims of Agent Orange filed a lawsuit in federal court Brooklyn on February 5th.

I would have tried posting this up as a breaker, but still don't qualify to start a thread:

Asia Times - 2/27/04 - Southeast Asia
Vietnamese fight back on Agent Orange
by Tran Dinh Thanh Lam:

<http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FB27Ae03.html>

[rocktivity]

102. If she rises from the dead three days later

Then I think I could take this movie seriously.

:headbang:
rocknation

[The Animator]

103. If I want to see an enlightening movie with keen insights about religion..

.. I'll go rent "DOGMA". In fact, I would recommend this film to anyone who says I should see "The Passion". In fact I think they should re-release "Dogma" to theaters right now.

But just imagine what could occur if the reels were "accidentally" switched. I know a lot of Dogma fans would be pissed.