Buick ties with Jaguar for first in J.D. Power dependability study

[Bozita]

Source: Detroit Free Press

Buick ties with Jaguar for first in J.D. Power dependability study
Ford brands take four segment awards
BY BRENT SNAVELY • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • MARCH 19, 2009


General Motors Corp.'s Buick brand tied for first place with Jaguar in a closely watched vehicle dependability study released by J.D. Power and Associates today while four of Ford Motor Co.'s vehicles had the highest rank in their segment.

“Buick has ranked among the top 10 nameplates each year since the study was last redesigned in 2003, while Jaguar has moved rapidly up the rankings,” David Sargent, vice president of automotive research at J.D. Power and Associates said in a statement.

It was the first time in 15 years that Lexus didn't finish first or tied for first among J.D. Power's brand, or nameplate, but it still did well. The top five brands overall were, in order, Buick, Jaguar, Lexus, Toyota and Mercury.

• MORE: See chart of dependability ratings by brand

Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20090319/BUSINESS01/90319021/Buick+ties+with+Jaguar+for+first+in+J.D.+Power+dependability+study

[Schema Thing]

1. The world is truly upside down

[Jack from Charlotte]

15. Jags have been very reliable since Ford bought them....

in the late 90's. They cleaned up the awful electronic problems (Lucus Lamps: Prince of Darkness).

If you want a good reliable used car, the Jags should be considered. They still sell cheaply based on their pre Ford reputation.

Now I wouldn't buy any German car due to unreliability. Germans can no longer make a car that actually works beyond 75,000 miles, IMO.

[EnviroBat]

2. I wouldn"t hit a dead dog in the ass with either one of those

pieces of shit. Who's paying off J.D. Power these days...?

[blue_onyx]

14. If Toyota came out on top, you would be praising JD Powers.

GM haters will find any reason to diminish good news coming from a US auto company. How predictable... :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[SharonAnn]

34. I love my Buicks. Driving a 10 year old one right now, and it's great.

[TommyO]

35. I think their standing at #1 refutes your claims of "POS" quite nicely

[DainBramaged]

37. Pieces of shit? Look in the mirror.

[snooper2]

3. Almost choked laughing so hard...

Jaguar?


What a piece of fucking shit...They should set their sights just a little higher :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. That's what I was thinking.

I spent ten years in the business and a used Jaguar on the lot was the kiss of death. You couldn't keep them running.

I'd buy a used Buick with that 3800 engine in a heart-beat.

[snooper2]

8. Yep, I've got the 3800 in my 06' Grand Prix

bulletproof engine...

[FudaFuda]

11. +1 my '99 LeSabre is boring, but runs like a top.

I wish I still had my old '73 LeSabre though. Now THAT was a great car.

[DS1]

5. Everyone simply gave up driving them

[NBachers]

6. The joke has now become the punchline

We've truly entered Bizarro World.

[Juan_de_la_Dem]

7. I bought a new 2005 Buick Terraza for my wife and had nothing but problems with it

In fact, they had so many issues with the car that they discontinued it. Further, when we would take it to the dealer, they would keep it for days - tell us they fixed the problem, but when we got it home we would discover that they had disconnected things like the radio or DVD system - which were tied to the electronic doors - in order to fix the "problem." Which was the side doors would not not close or would open randomly, the tailgate would not shut (all electronic). I could not get rid of that car fast enough and will never buy another Buick again.

I think JD has been compromised. Jaguar and Buick? Maybe it is because they don't sell any units, therefore nothing to fix.

[tyrant888]

9. Unless soemthing has changed at Jaguar.....

This isn't a good thing. Jaguar has been notorious for many years for very poor electrical components. I heard that when Ford took over they fixed them, though.

[truebrit71]

10. They did....mine runs like a charm...

...fuck all the haters...

[Jack from Charlotte]

16. I like the many outdated opinions of Jags reliability record.....

because it keeps the price much lower for their used cars.

Every car Jag has put out since Ford bought them have ranked above average in reliability.

They're great buys, used.

[ContraBass Black]

12. Jaguar and Mercury are both Ford nameplates.

Ford has really turned its reliability record positive.

[Jack from Charlotte]

19. My last 4 cars have been Fords and the small amount of repairs I've done...

has been remarkable, too me. My current one, a 2000 Merc Sable, the Taurus clone, has 142,000 miles and I've spent $20 total in repairs. I'd have traded it by now but the car is still virtually flawless, gets 28+ mpg on the highway and has a huge trunk with fold down rear seats.

Wife has an Acura which is also, flawless, but has been no better than my Taurus/Sables.

[RebelOne]

45. I am driving a 1999 Taurus and I love the car.

Only big repair I have had to do was replace the alternator.

[TrogL]

48. So the Windstars have stopped blowing engines and self-destructing transmissions?

[sofa king]

13. Wh-what the ffff......?

Right now I know where a Series I XKE is. A mechanical engineer who put a man on the moon occasionally hauls it out and works on it, but I think at this point even he concedes that making it run both reliably and well is too large an undertaking.

I'll need to see, with my own eyes and fingers, a Jaguar that runs reliably and well.

[pokercat999]

33. You can always tell when they run out of oil......they stop

LEAKING..................:rofl:

Old joke, but I'm easy.

[bullwinkle428]

17. Jaguar first in dependability? Can someone check hell for blizzard warnings?

How about air traffic control monitoring the radar for porcine mammals?

I'll drop my pants and see if monkeys fly out of my back end...

[Psephos]

18. Lot of people in this thread still living in 1990

Prolly still looking for Seinfeld on the cable channel guide, too. lol

[Jack from Charlotte]

20. Exactly. Early 90's, pre Ford. (NFM)

+

[Hassin Bin Sober]

21. Seinfeld is on like five times a day.

[Psephos]

23. duh...

I was referring to its prime-time run, 1989-1998.

[AngryAmish]

36. Sienfeld wasn't on cable then, it was a network show

NBC (channel 5 in Chicago).

[Psephos]

41. ???

So you think network shows aren't/weren't carried on cable?

:eyes:

[No Elephants]

46. During its prime time run, which cable network carried Seinfeld? Remind us, please.

[Psephos]

49. you're the one that said

what a tool...seems to be contagious on this thread

the "cable channel guide" is the, umm, guide the cable company provides to show what's on each channel

:eyes:

[DainBramaged]

40. A LOT of those people are stuck in the 80's. Worship lord god ToyHonNisSub

bow to the mundane lemming machines.

[EnviroBat]

43. I'll put my Subaru Sti up against anything you got helmet...

It will last longer, and run circles around your Bic with wheels.

[Kolesar]

22. K&R, despite the bollocks...eom

[JCMach1]

24. Buicks are awesome

Boring but dependable as hell.

[blue_onyx]

31. The design of Buicks are changing

The Enclave is a great looking car. Buick's new design for the LaCrosse is coming out this year and is also very nice. Building boring cars that look outdated has been Buick's problem. With the new vehicles they have out or coming out, the brand has a lot of potential.

[JerseygirlCT]

25. Ok, I'm confused

Though Jags are awfully pretty - the one thing I've always heard about them (from owners, even) is how ridiculously undependable they are - how you'd best plan to own another car because that one will spend enormous amounts of time in the shop.

[truebrit71]

27. Again...last century thinking...

...They massively improved their reliability after being taken over by Ford...

[JerseygirlCT]

28. Hmm...

Probably a good lesson in that, though - for the US companies as well.

First impressions last. Bad reputations are much harder to lose than good ones are to gain.

[truebrit71]

29. Indeed they are...

..

[AlCzervik]

39. Tata bought Jag from ford.

[Bozita]

30. I remember Ronald Reagan. He was a good, pro-labor union leader. A REAL Democrat!

What's that, you say?

He changed over time? No shit?

Oh, well.

Never mind.

[No Elephants]

47. I knew Ronald Reagan. I've suffered because of Ronald Reagan (and continue to do so, as we all do,

though the has been is long gone.) And Ronald Reagan was no Democrat.

Sometimes, people wander into the wrong party until they realize they are corporate shill neo theos at heart. Then, they migrate to their true nest.

[ShortnFiery]

32. I'm sorry but I would choose the Jag

Every damn time. :evilgrin:

[hatrack]

38. Jaguar? Wow . . . I should have listened to the warnings about the brown acid . . . .

:crazy:

[NashVegas]

44. I Know ... Who Knew?

I used to see used Jaguars in the newspaper for under $5k, and they were less than 5 years old!

Congrats to whomever is responsible for that turnaround.

[CANDO]

42. '99 Regal ... best vehicle I've ever owned.

Approaching 130k miles and runs as smooth as silk. Only issue has been with window regulators. Two have gone bad. I replaced the second one myself for around $100.00. First one had dealer replace...cost me over $500! Buicks are a great car. I'd buy another in a heart beat.

[TheCentepedeShoes]

50. My 94 Park Ave

Has about 55K miles on it
Sitting sick in the driveway. Water pump busted on the way home from work yesterday :cry:
Have to get it to the dealer in an hour

[KillCapitalism]

51. Ford really has seemed to improve quite a bit.

My father in law had a 1998 Ford Explorer that did alright for the first 70,000 miles are so, and then all hell broke loose and it broke down left and right.

He got rid of that and begrudgingly took a chance on a 2008 Ford Edge crossover. He has 36,000 miles on it already & it has been perfect so far. It drives far nicer than any Ford I have ever driven in the past.