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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:56 PM Original message |
Obama Administration Proposes Third-Party Billing for Combat-Related Injuries |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. They have proposed no such thing. It was one of many proposals being up for consideration. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Gibbs confirmed it is under consideration |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The proposal is what is actually submitted, not the ideas they are kicking around. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. There's a really good article from Military.com here: |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. thanks for the link |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. it sure doesn't sound like an administration that would have single-payer as an ultimate goal... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. I'm biting my tongue... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. about what...? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. I made a snap judgement call |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Yeah, but it is a "trial balloon", and it absolutely is unacceptable.................. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. I will find it very difficult to support the President in this. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Executive Branch does not make laws. This is designed to be a hit piece. Use your common sense. |
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lib_wit_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well, with single payer health care off the table, this is the next logical step. I am gutted, So |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. More bullshit from WaPo. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Well WH better get out there and get this clarified |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah, I'm sure they are all quivering with fear. nt |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I agree with that. It is a terrible idea and Obama needs to shut it down. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Fortunately, it won't pass |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. He's already received feedback. I don't understand what the goal here is. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. The article says that.. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Obama had the chance to do that when he met with the vets but that did NOT |
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soccermomforobama (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. According to a Hill article I read earlier today, this "idea" |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think he's just going for bargaining position with the insurance companies. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Leverage is good but no substitute for universal single payer |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is going to be a long 4 years |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's too bad |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. What dumbass came up with this idea? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. The idea is not off the table until Obama says "I will veto any act that will bill veterans' private |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. why would you 'assume' that? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Because of Obama's promise "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Oh dear...You must hate politics.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. No hate, I just don't trust any politician whether in my Democratic party or some other party. n/t |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. exactly. it's the whole world really... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. That's your choice to blindly trust politicians but I won't. Your reply is nonsensical and in no way |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I don't 'blindly' trust anyone... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Your words say "no" but your comments mean "yes". Have a good evening and goodbye. n/t |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Bye-bye... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
82. aren't assault weapons |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Nope. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. No! Please don't confuse assault rifles, machine pistols & other firearms capable of full |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. From Raw Story |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. Obama Administration Proposes Third-Party Billing for Combat-Related Injuries |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Do we get to bomb the private ins. co hq with mortars when they don't pay up? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Astroturf. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Astro yourself. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. When the same thing pops up five times, with lots of Obama bashing, it makes me wonder? |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Perhaps it should make you wonder if maybe Obama might be wrong about something for once? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Eh, I can see we aren't going to agree. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Can we pre-agree that billing veterans' private insurance for combat-related injuries now is wrong? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. If it is done in any way that increases costs to the veterans, yes, entirely. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The vets will bear the brunt of this policy, since the insurance companies will just pass the costs |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Not unless they are allowed to. Insurance companies are subject to the law too. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Do you really think that the insurance companies won't pass this cost back to the veterans, one way |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I think the insurance companies will do what the law says. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
84. don't you know you can't screw an insurance company? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Sure you can. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I'm trying to find the silver lining here. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Apparently, this idea has been around since Clinton's term. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I hope you're right. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. This is like the 4th or 5th time this lie has been posted here. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
70. What lie is that? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. article here.. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Oh yeah, and this is a dupe. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. It's a bad idea, but I must say this... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. Now now RamboLiberal, you've gone and stirred up the apologists again, shame on you. n/t |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. Reports of a "new FDR" have been greatly exaggerated. (n/t) |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. It's a shame. Because other than this possibility, his plan for veterans is steller. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Use em then lose em ? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. What's especially offensive is that it is to save 500 million dollars. Which is...nothing |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Exactly. That's why it's so irksome. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. The bottom line is this |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. How about those in the reserves and guard? they have insurance and a real world job but when they |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Nope |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. PLUS, an injured veteran could max out his or her lifetime insurance cap |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
48. There is no new proposal. This is about an existing issue. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. "You just don't get it, do you Scott" - Dr. Evil |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. "The fact the Gibbs would not say it was off the table" Good grief. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Yup, nothing but BS spin...... Oh sweet, sweet, irony. Enjoy the link. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
50. Letter to Obama re the problem co-signed by every major veterans organization in the country. |
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soccermomforobama (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
60. Why would I not be surprised if this was a Republican solution |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
67. Vets angered by Obama plan get new hearing |
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soccermomforobama (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I wonder what those exceptions are. . . |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. There was some discussion of that in one of these threads. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Ah, here's something: |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-17-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. here: |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
76. Kick because major veteran's groups have written Obama challenging his plan. n/t |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
78. the bushies apparently |
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antimatter98 (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
81. More Obama-BushCo stuff. Why was Obama elected? n/t |
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limit18 (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
83. I'm thinking this could affect recruiting. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
85. this is a nod to the "privatization" crowd. If you want to privatize profits, |
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SgtSkectial134 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
88. Why are you blaming Rep.? |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
91. And it is no longer an issue. The Obama Admin comes through |
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SgtSkectial134 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Semper Fi |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. "I still don't trust him... keep an eye on this guy Obama... " |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Emanuel said "he needed to talk to Obama"! It's not over until Obama tells veterans "I will veto any |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-18-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Yes, he came through. Too bad for the |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I disagree, veterans won a major battle. Any president can expect united opposition in the future nt |
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