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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:21 PM
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Bin Laden 'boxed in' by US soldiers
Bin Laden 'boxed in' by US soldiers
February 22, 2004

OSAMA bin Laden is reportedly surrounded by United States special forces in a mountain range that straddles north-west Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Internationally respected investigative journalist and author Gordon Thomas says the al-Qaida terror group leader has been sighted for the first time since 2001 and is being monitored by satellite.

In a report to be published in a British newspaper, Thomas says bin Laden is in a mountainous area to the north of the Pakistani city of Quetta.

The region is said to be a stronghold for bin Laden supporters and the terror kingpin is estimated to have 50 of his fanatical bodyguards by his side.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8754564%255E401,00.html
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:23 PM
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1. Is this the area known as Torra Bora (sp?)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:25 PM
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2. Since the news is public
Have they also informed bin Laden?
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:47 AM
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32. its funny but dont you think when we catch obl that no one will take his
place????
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:26 PM
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3. OBL and 50 bodyguards?
Wow, wonder how long it would take to capture him? If true, we should be able to take him alive given all the technology we have at our disposal.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:26 PM
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4. Do you think this announcement has anything to do with
the slip in the polls that Bush has taken?

I do...

Why annouce anything, unless he is captured???
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:52 PM
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48. exactly the reason, IMO!!! n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:29 PM
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5. I thought our intelligence failures were due to Clinton
Does that mean if this is successful, it is also due to Clinton?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:29 PM
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6. I think they've known for a long time
that he was in that area. Just waiting to get closer to elections to go in after him. But, his poll numbers suck so bad now - they figure they better get him now to stop the political bleeding.

Also, didn't want to capture him before they had a chance to use OBL and terrorists as an excuse to go into Iraq. :mad:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:32 PM
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8. I also believe
that bin Laden will not be taken alive like Sadam. This guy is a martyr to the fundamentalist wackos
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California Democrat Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:39 AM
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35. We'll see....
It's easy to say you're gonna be a martyr and you won't be taken alive....

It's another thing when there is nowhere left to run and all your bodyguards are gone....

Suddenly those seventy-two virgins waiting for him him paradise may not be enough motivation.

It'll be interesting to see how it turns out....
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:08 AM
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40. The "bodyguards" are instructed to kill OBL, to insure he isn't captured.
n/t
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:21 PM
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46. I agree with you. Also Mullah Omar is purportedly in populated
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 02:23 PM by mazzarro
areas of northwestern Pakistan or in Afghanistan but yet have not been taken or killed! I have my doubts that OBL is cornered or can be taken alive. Recall the many times OBL and Omar were supposed to have been cornered after the immediate disposal of the Taliban from power; yet nothing came of those! This is seem geared for election propaganda - ie stemming the *'s downward slide in poll.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:18 AM
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33. Sad when you have to spring your October surprize
in February. Means more new Terra soon. They may have to really cut the ties and openly blame wahabbists in S.A. this time.

That will add weight to the idea that Saudi Arabia is the next invasion target, because if we don't go in now, we will go in under a hostile revolutionary goverment.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:31 PM
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7. They have to be kidding!
Bin Laden's whereabouts were discovered, according to the report, when US Central Intelligence Agency analysts – geographers and soil experts – studying the background in the al-Qaida boss's latest video suggested it matched rocks in the Toba Kakar ranges.

CIA agents, working with Pakistani guides, went from Afghanistan to the region to take photographs and bring out rock and soil samples.

These were flown to Washington where the CIA analysts electronically matched them to the video background.


Sounds more like a story for the "Weekly World News" at the grocery checkout line...

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:34 PM
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10. I find it interesting
that they are sharing this "TOP SECRET" information with the public, when they won't even tell us how many Americans are wounded in Iraq?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:01 PM
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20. Ya right.
There were earlier videos where he was shown in front of rock formations. After that they announced they were analyzing the rocks to see if it matches to a certain area.

On later videos there was a tarp draped over the rocks because OBL must have heard about the rock analysis.

I highly doubt they would mess up and give out free leads like that.
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:26 PM
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25. You're right....
so high tech it's bullshit.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:55 PM
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31. Why didn't they
just send in a Martian lander with a fucking shotgun or missile launcher on top?

idiots. how many times have we heard that Bin Laden was surrounded?

I can at least count three times..

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:33 PM
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9. Bull. Reported by fringe media.
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 09:34 PM by onehandle
Why do people fall for this stuff?

Why is this crap allowed in LBN?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:37 PM
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11. Go to Google
Type in "bin Laden surrounded"

Interesting...


Look at the various dates, and tell what do you think?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:43 PM
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12. This is very interesting
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:44 PM
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13. HA! I thought it sounded familiar. I sort of like the Bin Laden vacation
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:15 AM
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41. Google links based on "bin laden surrounded"...
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 04:08 PM
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50. There is only one story, and it is in fringe media...
The other stories are all citing that one story.

Shoddy-ass "journalism", to cite another paper's story.

It's what Drudge was doing with the Kerry story.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:48 PM
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16. Yeah...they left out the alien UFO bases next to bin Laden
The REAL enemy in our midst!!

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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:08 PM
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23. Ok call it Latest Breaking Crap
Im just reporting it as it falls from on high.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:48 PM
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14. How many more times is this story going to be posted?
Over and over again we must contend with threads on a story, most of which is from anonymous sources. Enough!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:48 PM
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15. delete
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 09:49 PM by bluestateguy
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:51 PM
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18. This is the first one I've seen that has the "rock analysis" schpeel. n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:49 PM
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17. This has been rumored all day
There's no peep of it on the BBC website, in The New York Times or Associated Press.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:00 PM
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19. Ya, but the US felt it necessary to deny it before it hit any of those
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:07 PM
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21. Wow.
Pretty early to be pulling out their ace in the hole.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:04 AM
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39. They need the Evil man to be in the News
To scare the crap out of every 80 year old who lives in a nursing home.

After all Osama is going to break in at night and steal all the raisins and prune juice.</Sarcasm>
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:07 PM
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22. What a coincedence!! AWOL's admin. was just SAYING they'd find him
some time this year. They must have a crystal ball or something. What luck! Amazing! We should all vote for the chimp in November since he can clearly predict the future. This is just proof that president shitferbrains isn't mortal! He's obviously some sort of GAWD or something!!

ugh..
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:20 PM
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24. Who cares?
Another spoiled rich boy cockroach.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:53 AM
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43. They now detected him
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 04:11 PM
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51. Binny baby has been detected?
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 04:12 PM by 0007
Does this seem to imply that the U.S. has JUST become aware of something not previously known?

These spin masters are too much!
DETECTED?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:28 PM
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26. Also not coincidental
This story pops up as more and more (very belated) questions are being asked about why the bin Laden family was allowed clearance to fly out of the country on 9/11.

Funny how Bush never seems to address that issue during press conferences. (Oops, my bad - WHAT press conferences?)

brentspeak
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:34 PM
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27. Goodness
don't they want to time his capture a little better for the maximum bounce? Do it just before the Democratic Convention.
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:37 PM
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28. What does that leave for just before the elections?
The stunning unexpected terror attack on a large Democratic city?

(Don't hold your breath expecting it to be Dallas.)
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:26 PM
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29. Well, THAT'S good to know, I guess (m)
Seeing as that is where I am!

(sigh)

Come on guys, get it straight once and for ALL! Reagan's body will be taken out of cold storage in late August for a nice state funeral, making everyone nostalgic for the good ole 80s, THEN they will find OBL, THEN they will have the RNC in NYC as close to Sept. 11 as possible.

MAXIMUM impact, think MAXIMUM impact!

And no attack on any city....that would look BAD for bushco.
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:30 AM
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34. I hope you are right about no attack on any city
I would not want that. I want whoever is in the white house to try to prevent attacks on Americans.
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 07:23 AM
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38. Damn straight
Except maybe a smalll surgical strike on the Rethug convention - there should be a big enough cushion of bs to prevent any damage to real Americans (i.e. New Yorkers).
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:49 PM
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30. BushCo wouldn't plan a *successful* terror attack on the US. That'd hurt *
What you should expect is a stunning and unexpected prevention of a terror attack--preferably one in which the powers granted under the Patriot Act provide the key intel to save American lives. Then we can all get together and tear up that mangy old Bill of Rights with a big relieved smile on our faces.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:41 AM
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36. They've moved up the calendar
Bush's ratings are hitting around the 45 mark on things...that's when the big stuff happens. I suspect they already have him and they're just trying to get the public excited and anxious.

If that's the case and they do pull him out of the hat, they're out of magic rabbits (unless they can pull out 2.5 million jobs by October).
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 07:13 AM
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37. so how many times
does that make this now?
the obl capture will be timed -- we know that -- i think they may wait yet -- because bush's numbers are going to fall more.
might as well save obl for just the right dip in the polls.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:51 AM
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42. So, what are they waiting for?
They appear to be describing a situation in which all they are waiting for is the order to kill or capture him. Why the delay?

This leak puts a lot of pressure on the WH. If they capture him, they need a new suprise for Nov. If they don't capture him soon under these circumstances, any serious "al qaeda" attacks will raise similar questions as about 911.

This leaker isn't trying to help the chimp.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:56 AM
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44. Bin Laden is on ice, in a secret chamber with Cheney
who drools daily and begs Karl Rove to hurry up and drag him out for the photo op of George dressed in fatigues standing over his already dead body. The man had kidney disease for gods sake, and how long was he on digitalis in that cave anyway?
This is so lame. Rove is waiting for his big chance to drag this out. In the meantime, all real issues like dead civilians and soldiers and wounded and global warming and deficits are ignored.
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:56 AM
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45. Diversion alert! Diversion alert!
Drudge rumor didn't work last week, they needed a new trick!
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:21 PM
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47. Who wants some of this action???
Dollars to donuts we catch/kill (personally, I'm fine with either) Bin Laden sometime in late, oh I don't know, September or early October?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:54 PM
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49. yawn. people don't give a hoot about bin laden anymore.
all of this manufactured hype is nothing compared to a crumbling economy and lack of jobs... people care about what is happening to them personally.
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