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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:39 AM
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FBI investigates firebombing of UCLA researcher's car
Source: LA Times

By Julie Cart
March 10, 2009
The FBI is looking into the firebombing of a vehicle owned by a UCLA neuroscientist who was targeted by an anti-animal research group for using primates in his study of psychiatric disorders.

The March 7 incident involving a homemade incendiary device took place outside the faculty member's home and caused no injuries, according to FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller. The UCLA professor, who researches treatments for schizophrenia, drug addiction and other disorders, was not identified.

The firebombing is one in a series of aggressive acts aimed at university researchers who use animals in medical studies, UCLA spokesman Phil Hampton said. In other cases, firebombs have been left on doorsteps and in homes, vehicles have been vandalized and researchers have received threatening phone calls and e-mails.

The harassment led to a court order last year that has since been converted into a preliminary injunction banning the distribution of researchers' personal information on websites and fliers.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/crime/la-me-ucla-fire10-2009mar10,0,1587897.story
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:40 AM
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1. Idiots endangering the lives of innocent people.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:22 AM
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2. I'm against any violence and wonder if like other incidents it is not
animal-rights groups but a false flag incident to misdirect concern ---

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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:56 AM
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3. Not a chance
There are a number of violent animal direct action organizations (aka terrorists) that operate within the US. They are more common in Europe, but they are increasing in numbers here. Even PETA head loon, Ingrid Newkirk, has provided direct and indirect support for those types of groups.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:00 AM
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4. It's happened before . . .
As far as I'm aware, when it is an animal-rights group they announce their action.

Note you're referring to them as "terrorists" -- though still right-wing militia

groups and "pro-life" murder groups aren't considered domestic terrorism!

What we know historically is that violence is too often committed by corrupt

government for their own purposes. From Silkwood to many others!





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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:05 AM
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5. From the original article
The Animal Liberation Front posted a message on its website Monday from a group that claimed responsibility for the firebombing.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:34 PM
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8. Well, that seems clear then ---
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 12:44 PM by defendandprotect
and I'm still against violence.

And for anyone else who didn't get that far in the article --

The Animal Liberation Front posted a message on its website Monday from a group that claimed responsibility for the firebombing.

Additionally ....

UCLA is offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in the incident.

We are controlled by hierarchies of power -- and over the past decades our education system

has been corporatized and miiitarized. They are now more invested in government projects than

in true education. One great exception to this is Prof. Theodore Postel at MIT who continues

to fight the lies about the corrupt Star Wars Missile Defense System!

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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 06:09 AM
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7. There not the only domestic terrorists
It's not just me that refers to them as terrorists, the FBI categorizes them that way just as they do for some "pro-life" wacko groups.

That's what they are and should be referred to as such. It certainly is more descriptive than "animal rights activists".
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:35 PM
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9. What I'm saying is that the FBI leads and labels . . .
but often we have FBI involvement in these crimes ---

again, nothing new -- from the first bombing of the WTC to Camden28 and on and on!

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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 03:34 AM
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6. While I have sympathy for the use of Animals in the labratory
The sacrifices they have made over the centuries to help us understand disease cannot be understated.

I am currently reading the Root Canal Coverup, which discusses the research of Dr. Westin Price in the study of Focal Infections caused by infected teeth.

A lot of his experiments simply implanted a particle of and extracted infected tooth, and the rabbits would develop the same disease as the person the tooth was extracted from. Sadly, it appears that this research was buried, along with the similar results found by many others, including Royal Rife, who was reported to have cured cancer with radio waves which harmonically destroyed the basic components of the disease or organism.

As a kid, I remember walking the labs where my parents worked and seeing hundreds or rabbits that were used for many tests in support of health. I believe they were critical in detecting prgegnancy for decades. Getting news that "The Rabbit Died" may sound familiar.

These children that don't understand the suffering that Animal testing can elleviate have been taught to not respect the gift of Knowledge. Knowledge will never be given to us for free, we have to earn it.

What the animal activist are doing should concentrate on the Factory Farms and make sure that people know what is going on with their food. Of course, they could be Corporate agents working to promote high food safety laws that will prevent us from actually ever looking at the process of factory farming. Create a fearful group, that just happen to be Hippies, and pass legislation that removes all rights to any say in treating animals with respect.

The fact is, Animals are food. Animals don't have to be treated inhumanely before they are consumed, but thats the basic trend these days.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:39 PM
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10. It isn't necessary to harm any animal-life in these ways in order to help humans . . .
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 12:40 PM by defendandprotect
much of these tests can be determined by other means ---

and, finally, animals are not humans just as drug tests mainly on males proved over

and again they are unsuitable for females.

What is wrong with our "medical system" is also what is wrong with animal-torture/testing . . .

and that is itd FOR PROFIT nature which distorts purpose and we see the results of this

every day with the insanity going on in health care and the Big Pharma industry.

Animal-testing is a big business for profit -- a big, bad, sad, torturous business.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:28 PM
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11. But once chimps are given citizenship, they'll get health care coverage to treat their Alzheimer's.
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 01:29 PM by Ian David
If "Joe The Plumber" can vote, why not "Joe The Bonobo?"

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:54 PM
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12. ... Right --- !!! AFTER we give them Alzheimer's . . . !!!
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:38 PM
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13. Animal rights groups like this give a legitimate movement a bad name.eom
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