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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:52 PM
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Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
Source: Toronto Sun

The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

Read more: http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:54 PM
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1. That explains...
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 12:55 PM by Ian David
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:55 PM
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6. Gawd that character was a riot!
When she had an orgasm on the coin operated horse ride I almost lost it.

"Want some eggs? They came from my body!" :rofl:

I miss KITH so much.

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:54 PM
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2. Any theories on how this could
possibly have happened? My tinfoil hat is giving me a headache. :tinfoilhat:
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:12 PM
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3. i used to work for a baxter owned company
my personal guess was it was expecting one person to do 3 peoples jobs to save money that caused it.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:23 PM
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4. Bird brains?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:27 PM
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5. Perhaps Baxter can patent the fix, resulting in a new vaccine mandate?
:crazy:
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:25 PM
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7. Who runs This Company?
Well this is a scary little story. I wonder if anyone in the Bush administration has any financial ties or any other ties to this company?
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:32 PM
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8. Dodging a Bullet?
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences.

While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.

That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however.


YIKES!
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:05 PM
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15. "There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however."
Oh, goodie..

I feel Sooooooo re-assured.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:52 PM
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9. This couldn't have been an accident: Biosafety Level 3?
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 02:53 PM by Jeroen
- snip -
Or, put another way, Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter -- which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world -- getting away with saying, essentially, "Oops?"

But there's a bigger question in all this: How could this company have accidentally mixed LIVE avian flu viruses (both H5N1 and H3N2, the human form) in this vaccine material?
Was the viral contamination intentional? The shocking answer is that this couldn't have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.

More:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html

Jeez, no wonder I am running out of tin foil.

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:55 PM
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11. "Survivors" anyone?
Both the original (accidental release) and the current (not exactly accidental)
have a certain correspondence to this report ...
:yoiks:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 05:52 PM
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13. Christ natural news is a pseudoscientific source
I have a friend that works in BSL3. Accidents happen these companies are only as good as their emplyees and I am familiar with Baxter. As someone upthread said most likely this happened through overwork. Baxter being a bioweappns researcher is fucking nuts.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:33 PM
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10. Lab 257
"Lab 257" is http://www.amazon.com/Lab-257-Disturbing-Governments-Laboratory/dp/0060011416">a book about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_257">U.S. biological warfare research laboratory located at Fort Terry on Plum Island, New York.

After reading it, I learned just how dangerous these governmental/corporate disease research facilities really are. Government labs are often underfunded and have crumbling infrastructure and corporate labs suffer from conflicts of interest concerning budgets, middle management, and the bottom line.

Some day, they'll release the wrong bug. When, not if.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:42 PM
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12. file, remember the rats that disappeared from a Level 3 lab in NJ? right after Katrina?
The most terrifying books I have ever read are all on this basic subject- "The Hot Zone", "The Plague Makers" and several others that I can't recall the titles.

Thanks for the new nightmare to read. Even though they scare the hell out of me I'd rather be a little forewarned. :)

When, not if, is a unfortunately a good call. :hi:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:04 PM
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14. Exactly, so stock up on Wildcrafted Oil Of Oregano!
And don't feed into the "everybody now needs this new vaccine we just happen to have on hand".
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 12:09 AM
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19. I believe I would fight to the death to not be vaccinated.
It would also work well to silently chip everyone. Chips are nearing microscopic these days.

I'm checking into the oil and some others. Ya' never know.

Hi kimmerspixelated! Don't believe we've crossed paths here before. :hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 08:26 PM
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17. 25 miles from Long Island?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 10:02 AM
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18. Plumb Island. I grew up in the area. we always knew of that place
and were told as kids, bad things go on there.

even though it was supposed to be top secret back in the 60's and 70's, everyone knew about it and knew what was going on there.

Read the book mentioned above Lab 257, it's excellent.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:12 PM
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16. Baxter makes... a human H5N1 vaccine
...... for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.


Remember a few years back there was "shortage" of vaccine, the explanatino being that no labs could make enough?
I suspected at the time that really meant there was not enough money in it for any lab.

remind me to continue to NOT get flu shots.
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