Daschle satisfied with war progress

[Snivi Yllom]

Daschle satisfied with war progress
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2004/02/20/news/local/news05.prt
By Denise Ross, Journal Staff Writer

PIERRE - Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., on Thursday praised the Bush administration's war and nation-building work in Iraq and said he has no serious concerns about the lack of weapons of mass destruction.

Daschle told state chamber of commerce representatives meeting in the South Dakota capital that he is satisfied with the way things are going in Iraq.

"I give the effort overall real credit," Daschle said. "It is a good thing Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. It is a good thing we are democratizing the country."

He said he is not upset about the debate over pre-war intelligence on weapons of mass destruction, an issue that has dogged President Bush as Democratic presidential contenders have slogged through the primary season.
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Ok, anyone else pissed at this besides me? This man is minority leader and he thinks things are going well there?

:(

[Goldmund]

1. Fuck the fucking fucker

[BlueEyedSon]

20. I totally fucking agree with that fucking comment. FUCK.

[roguevalley]

31. swamp his SORRY ASS with emails. He needs to be reminded

that he is neither an independent nor a repug. Or is he, the complete
bastard. I would slap his face if my arm reached to North Dakota.

North Dakota people, what the HELL is wrong with him? I thought Lisa
Murkowski shamed my state every time her entitlement mouth opened but I have to say, you're getting a bigger schelacking from this dipwit.

[RapidCreek]

41. That's South Dakota

RC

[xray s]

2. reserving judgement

on edit, see post #44

[Snivi Yllom]

15. count Karl Rove and thankful

for this beautiful sound byte:

"I give the effort overall real credit," Daschle said. "It is a good thing Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. It is a good thing we are democratizing the country."

[Journeyman]

3. Who do I donate money to for Daschle's replacement?. . .

I'd rather have a Republican in his stead, so I could suffer under their misrule without the base alloy of hypocrisy Daschle adds to mix.

[leftchick]

4. that anthrax scare....

severed his spine....He should quit for God's sakes if he has no cojones! :grr:

[tom_paine]

8. Yep Dacshle GOT THE MESSAGE

(so did Leahy)

And they've been behaving like it ever since.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :grr:

[SaveElmer]

5. This is why he has to go

These are appropriate comments for a Democratic Senator in a conservative state to make (politically), they are not appropriate for the Demcoratic leader in the Senare. We need a leader who is not constantly looking over his shoulder because he has a conservative constituency. We need someone like Dick Durbin from illinois

[Crachet2004]

54. You are 100% correct...

A democrat from a conservative state may have to make noises like Daschle just did to stay in office, but someone like Byrd or Kennedy (only younger) needs to be the Leader...someone with a safe seat.

Our candidates are showing it's now safe to run straight at Bush, calling him on his record...while Daschle sounds like he's in a time warp from a year ago! There is no future in being nice, just now. The GOP isn't.

[leesa]

56. It is not appropriate that ANY of them condone this immoral, illegal

war. There is NO EXCUSE for anyone supporting this tragedy. Period. He is a traitor to his country and he has betrayed the members of the US military fighting in Iraq and the people of Iraq.

[waldenx]

6. yeah lets reward the Dem party

for being cowards.

[CaptainClark23]

7. QUISLING!!!

One day a real rain is gonna come and wash all the scum out of DC....

[Voltaire99]

53. Hallelujah to that, brother! (n/t)

[PROGRESSIVE1]

9. Daschle needs to resign his post as "leader".

:puke:

[truebrit71]

10. Unbelievable..simply unbelievable.......

What a gutless turd.....he needs to go.....

[montanacowboy]

11. Why should anyone be surprised at this?

he has been a * enabler since the beginning - probably worse than Zell because we know what Zell is, but this one puts on the cloak of a real democrat while he simpers and whimpers to the repuke leadership. he is a disgrace to all democrats - he literally makes me nauseated when I see his puky face. got to stop or I will lose my lunch.

tell him to go live on his wife's lobbying millions -

[Sagan]

12. Ay yi yi......

Tom. Check the little letter in parentheses they always put next to your name. It's a (D), not an (R).

And, you're wrong to boot.

What will you say when Iraq slides into civil war? That you're sure it's not the misAdministration's fault?

[Richardo]

13. Tom - your suit just came back from the tailors...

:grr:

[mac56]

14. I'd expect this from Zell.

Not from the minority leader.

[Wwagsthedog]

16. It's comments like this from our oppostion leader(?).....

....that makes me wonder if we can really achieve the needed change in national government in the upcoming election. There are just too many pandering Democrats like daschle in republican clothes to make me feel optimistic.

[htuttle]

17. Good God, what an idiot!

WTF!?! Get this guy out of the minority leader spot.

Get someone from a safe seat, so they don't have to keep pandering to the Right to stay in office.

Dick Durbin wouldn't be a bad idea.

[ScotTissue]

18. I for one am happy to see Daschle satisfied...

I for one am happy to see Daschle satisfied. This is a tribute to prescription meds.

Arggh!

[wryter2000]

19. Lord

Who elected this bum?

[monarch]

39. The answer to who elected Daschle is John Kerry

Daschle was elected majority leader over Chris Dodd by one vote. John Kerry was the only New England senator who voted for Daschle over Dodd. Figure that one out.

[otohara]

21. Tired

doesn't he just sound like a guy who is sick of his position and is taking the easy way in order to avoid attacks from rabid right-wingers?

He needs to go away as minority leader - is there anything we can do to make this happen?

[htuttle]

25. I know what I'm tired of

I'm tired of having the Democratic leadership cut our legs out from under us everytime we make any headway against Bush.

:wtf:

They HAVE to be doing this on purpose...

[xray s]

22. reserving judgement

see my post below

[Minstrel Boy]

23. A senior Democrat can say this, and still people wonder

why progressives are dismayed at being told there's no other choice.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

24. The word whore, does not begin to describe this biiiaaaatch.

No disrespect to actual whores or female dogs intended.

[xchrom]

26. what a schmuck!

i just can't believe my eyes when i see crap like this -- it's so disapointing.

[Barrett808]

27. He's obviously not subscribed to my Iraq Front News

Daily new roundup of events in Iraq, most of which you won't see on the 5:00 news.

Site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IraqFrontNews/
Subscribe: [e-mail]

[Aidoneus]

32. nice group

(beware:--shameless self-promotion incoming..)

You might also want to check my page occasionally, as I link to pieces that may be of interest.

[Barrett808]

45. Excellent - will definitely steal some links from ya! n/t

n/t

[ixion]

28. Tom Daschle: Bush cabal lapdog

:grr: :argh:

Get a spine, Daschle.

[Moosefish]

29. I see it as he's finally coming back to the middle.

Let's face it, our party is perceived to be so far left of mainstream, that even the slightest move back to the middle by leadership entails outrage from a few of you out there. Should he have said this during election season? Yes. That is if we want to win in November.

[mbperrin]

33. WIN by caving to the rethugs on every issue?

Sounds like THEY win to me!

The families of over 550 dead Americans might not think things are going so great over there!

[Moosefish]

40. He clearly wasn't speaking of the death toll.**

**

[mac56]

42. Clearly, he should have been.

Instead he came across like a gutless Bush sycophant.

[AngryYoungMan]

52. WRONG WRONG WRONG

That's Lieberman's line. Please re-think it because we learned in 2002 just how "valuable" that thinking is.

[soleft]

30. Wonderful timing with Nader about to announce

Just what we need to have people running to third party in droves

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[Aidoneus]

35. gutless eunuch..

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[Malva Zebrina]

36. oh my

what complete stab in the back. Someone may have gotten to Daschle and threatened him in some way, It is the only think I can think of that would cause him to turn over to the other side--and that is what he has done. Must be a tremendous mess in the Senate. Daschle is lacking the stuff to carry us forward and onward to get rid of Bush. I hope Kerry has not fallen prey to this laissez faire attitude from his years in the Senate, also. That is why I admired Dean, and love Kucinich. Edwards has not been around or entrenched that long.

[Walt Starr]

37. Yet another reason for me to leave the Democratic Party

I am just so sick of those pink tutus.

[Snivi Yllom]

43. Daschle to his credit managed to make some half hearted disses at W

"We're hemorrhaging at a rate unlike anything in the nation's history," Daschle said. "We are going to have a mess for our children and grandchildren that ought to embarrass us."

[xray s]

44. Wait a minute...maybe we need to let Daschle explain his remarks

I jumped on him after reading the post, but looking at the entire article, I would like to know if the paper is trying to spin Daschle's comments as more pro-Bush administration than they really are.

He said he is not upset about the debate over pre-war intelligence on weapons of mass destruction, an issue that has dogged President Bush as Democratic presidential contenders have slogged through the primary season. "We can argue about the WMD and what we should have known," Daschle, the Senate minority leader, said.

That is not the same thing as saying he has no concerns about not finding WMD, which is the papers spin on these comments.

What is the editorial tilt of this newspaper?

Anyway, I want Daschle to explain this, then I'll make up my mind.

On edit; as far as the papers motivation, if they are right-leaning editorially, they may be trying to boost Bush by implying bipartisan support for his policies that isn't really there. Also, I would expect Daschle to praise the work of the troops in Iraq, especially since the article points out there are quite a few of them from SD.

But, if indeed Daschle believes the faulty intellegence and WMD issues are "no big deal", I will resume my :mad: mode.

[Snivi Yllom]

47. ok....he will be issuing something im sure after this

but I can't spin this as anything other than what it is

"I give the effort overall real credit,"<\/b> Daschle said. "It is a good thing Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. It is a good thing we are democratizing the country."

[They_LIHOP]

46. LAME LAME LAME!!!

That is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE.

This guy has GOT to step down from the minority leadership. I agree with others who suggest we need someone who is NOT in a conservative state to lead our party in Congress. I don't care WHAT Teddy Kennedy says about how strong Daschle is - he is clearly nothing but a mealy-mouthed, pink tutu-wearing SELLOUT!

KUCINICH '04, BABY!

[GRClarkesq]

48. Hmmm -worried about reelection is Republican SD?

Hes tied with Thune at the moment, and hes not Majority leader any more.

[DrBB]

49. Daschle earns his 937th Pink Tutu Award

...and here it is only February.

[RaRa]

50. He's satisfied with losing?

Because we are. Ditto to the fucking appropriate responses from #1 and #2.

[Voltaire99]

51. Shame on you, Daschle, collaborator. You, too, Mark Dayton.

Little in politics is more revolting than to realize one's own party is handmaiden to evil. The blood of over 10,000 Iraqi citizens and +500 US troops is equally on the hands of those zealots who gave the orders and those tepid souls who stood by nodding in approval.

Bush did not make this war alone. Nor can he sustain it alone. Politicians like Daschle grease empire's wheels by manufacturing public consent at home.

For example, here's my senator, Mark Dayton of Minnesota, last week strewing roses across the latest departure of National Guard victims being sent to the slaughter. All are heroes; their purpose is noble; the fate of the world hangs in the balance. Yadda yadda yadda - lies the aged use to get the young to die. It's a statement that might as easily have been written by Dick Cheney or Richard Perle:

http://www.senate.gov/~dayton/releases/2004/02/2004213B40.html

Dayton Addresses Largest Minnesota Army Reserve Unit Deployed Since Operation Desert Shield
More than 500 Minnesota Reservists say goodbye to families and loved ones at St. Cloud send-off ceremony.

February 13, 2004

Fort Snelling, MN - Today U.S. Senator Mark Dayton addressed over 500 Minnesota Army Reservists and their families at a deployment ceremony in St. Cloud. The soldiers from the 367th Engineer (EN) Battalion (BN) have been called to active duty and are preparing to leave their jobs, families, and friends behind for an unspecified tour of duty in Southwest Asia. The unit will serve in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. This represents the largest deployment of a Minnesota Army Reserve unit since Operation Desert Shield. The 367th EN BN is headquartered in St. Cloud, with companies in Brainerd, Duluth, and Mankato, and a detachment in Fergus Falls.

"These Minnesota soldiers are giving up their families, their home lives, and their careers to defend and protect our country at this critical moment in our nation's history," said Dayton. "As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I am well aware of the strains on our armed forces resulting from two-and-a-half years of continuous military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq and continuing peacekeeping missions in Bosnia and Kosovo.

"Ongoing troop rotations require units like the 367th Engineer Battalion to be called upon, and they have answered that call proudly and heroically. This is the largest Minnesota reserve unit mobilization in three current operations. With nothing less than our nation's future and the world's future at stake for all of us, our children and grandchildren, we are deeply grateful to these patriotic service members. We wish them godspeed."

[okieinpain]

55. this is what frighten's me about kerry, and edwards. now that

dean has been destroyed. the two senator's will return to form and continue their ass kissing of *

[leesa]

57. Of course they will. The entire US government cannot afford to lose

their cash cow...endless war. These traitors will cause the overthrow of the US. All of them, with the exception of a few like Waxman and Kucinich are in on this plot to steal the resources of the Middle East.

[pippin]

59. careful, your message may get deleted

by the moderators for mentioning Kerry in the same breath as Daschle. My posting got removed and I was a lot more polite than you were!!

[jrthin]

58. This Mother-effing jacka$$

should just go pound salt and shut the hell up. With dems like him, why do we need repugs.