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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 09:59 PM
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Islam illegal under law, court told
Islam was an illegal religion because the Koran preached violence against Christians and Jews, a Christian group told a judge yesterday.

The group's barrister, David Perkins, said that Christianity was established under Australia's constitution and had special protection, especially through the blasphemy law.

Mr Perkins told the Victorian and Civil Administrative Tribunal that if the state's new religious hatred law intended to fetter the teaching of Christian doctrine it was invalid.

"The Koran contradicts Christian doctrine in a number of places and, under the blasphemy law, is therefore illegal," he said.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/19/1077072778607.html
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:12 PM
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1. So the old testament doesn't mention killing blasphemers?
The Quran is very much based on Judeo-Christian theology. And the suras also speak of living in harmony with "the people of the book".
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:13 PM
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2. Oh. God. There is no end.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:34 PM
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3. twisted fundy logic....
And the Aussies built this into their Constitution?!
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Cptn Kirk Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:43 PM
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4. The Aussie gov
has been drifting towards fascism MUCH faster than ours. This does not surprise me.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 11:44 PM
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5. They don't have as many to indoctrinate
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Eureka Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 12:07 AM
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6. Not really.....
From the article

He said the reference in the constitution to the people "humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God" referred to Christianity and was inserted at the request of Christians


So it's not really built in, it just mentions God. This is (IMHO) the same as arguing the US is a christian nation becuase of "in God we trust"
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 12:38 AM
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7. That works both ways, read the Old Testament and you will see...
Quite alot of encouriging of many illegal activities.


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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:08 AM
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8. Is anyone surprised?? After all isn't Satan Murdoch an Aussie??
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 01:14 AM by truebrit71
Bloody convicts...should have hung 'em all when we had the chance....<[for further insight into this highly inflammatory statement please read up on British penal colonies and the Aussie propensity to deny their forefathers ancestry>] (Dear moderators, this is humour, please do not infer that I wish that all Aussies should be killed, it is just my sick and twisted British humour, besides which England beat the snot out of the poor darlings recently in the World Cup of Rugby and they are likely to be highly sensitive right now... ;) )


Is the ENTIRE world going mad????
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:27 AM
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9. well hey the Aussies....
Used to hunt aborigines like animals and said they didn't even have a culture or religion...And how much of a threat were they?

Not to knock Oz, but that's a nation with some issues ...
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 03:06 AM
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10. Yeah, I used to frequent an Aussie chatroom
but all they ever wanted to talk about was sex. Talk
about one track minds! I tried to get them to talk
about music, culture, current events down under, but
no go. It was dismaying, so I left.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 03:52 AM
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11. Lets see, there was a lot of killing going on in the Bible too
As George Carlin said: "God is the leading cause of death in the Bible!" The Old Testament said to kill:

-gays
-heathens/pagans/witches/anyone who doesn't worship "your" God
-adulterers
-unruly slaves and children
-all males of a conquered nation, even male children (the women were to be sold into slavery, lucky them)
-those who break the 10 Commandments, even those who simply work on Sunday

Seems there was a whole lot of violence being preached by Christians too, if I'm recalling my Bible study correctly.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 07:44 AM
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12. "Blasphemy Laws"?
Say it isn't so, Joe!
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rhino91063 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 07:46 AM
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13. Well this will go a long way
In convincing the Muslim world the West (Australia is tossed in with them) is not on a crusade against them.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 08:14 AM
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14. When asked for comment, the US president said,
"Damn, why didn't we think of that?!"
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SinkingInTheRain Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 08:17 AM
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15. At least the Aussies had the smarts to ban guns for all
That alone is worth something.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 10:01 AM
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16. Guns aren't banned
Only semi-auto firearms and handguns are. Pump shotguns, deer rifles, lever action rifles, etc are still very legal.

Also, hasn't Australia's crime rates gone UP since that ban?
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