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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:03 PM
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Israel must investigate charges of crimes in Gaza -US (new UN - U.S. envoy - Susan Rice)
Source: Reuters

UNITED NATIONS, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Israel must investigate allegations that its army violated international law during its three-week war against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, the new U.S. envoy to the United Nations said on Thursday.

"We expect Israel will meet its international obligations to investigate and we also call upon all members of the international community to refrain from politicizing these important issues," Ambassador Susan Rice said in her debut speech before the U.N. Security Council.

Rice said that Hamas had been guilty of violating international law "through its rocket attacks against Israeli civilians in southern Israel and the use of civilian facilities to provide protection for its terrorist attacks."

"There have also been numerous allegations made against Israel some of which are deliberately designed to inflame," she told the council during a meeting on international humanitarian law.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B159355.htm
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:13 PM
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1. I think she's going to do a good job
it's nice having adults in charge again.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:28 PM
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4. why?
where else does the suspected criminal get to investigate themselves? israel will find that they have done nothing wrong. bet on it. more of the same.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:37 PM
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13. It is a basic principle of the ICC
The Court is designed to complement existing national judicial systems: it can exercise its jurisdiction only when national courts are unwilling or unable to investigate or prosecute such crimes.<10><11> Primary responsibility to investigate and punish crimes is therefore left to individual states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:14 PM
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2. Good. And I hope Israel says that the U.S. must investigate war crimes at Gitmo and elsewhere.
Both investigations need be done.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:17 PM
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3. She must insist on investigations into US war crimes also. n/t
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:35 PM
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5. Oh Fer Chrissakes...not this shit again.
Isn't this akin to having the Nazi's investigate the Holocaust?
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ddss75 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:44 PM
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6. funny
When is the world going to demand answers from Hamas that they deliberately targeted civilians for the last 2 years?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:47 PM
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7. Sure, ok
Shall we ask Hamas to investigate themselves as well?
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:49 PM
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8. so
in your mind hamas and israel are both equivalent? and somehow hamas is getting off scot free here?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:01 PM
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9. You mean, with their guided missiles?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:06 PM
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10. Na the random ones.
they did manage an own goal on a few kids. Guess those bodies dont count.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:17 PM
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11. Doesn't work on me, sorry.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 06:17 PM by sfexpat2000
I've been reading about the IDF killing surrendering CIVILIANS at point blank range and using human shields and being busted for white phosphorus and flechettes all over the open air prison they've made of Gaza WHILE illegal West Bank settlements are up more than 50%.

Cry me a river.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:17 PM
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15. Splattering kids all over an apartment
meets my criteria to take notice. they were supposed to be dead Israelis but hamas fucked it up.

I read about them using kids blood to make matzah soup too. Lets see evidence.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 03:01 AM
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19. From Amnesty International:
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:54 AM
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18. When
is the world going to demand that Israel stop treating the Arabs like slaves?.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:17 PM
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12. Israel investigates? How many countries at the end of WWII admitted their own war crimes when they
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 06:18 PM by McCamy Taylor
investigated themselves? Does that mean Germany gets to go back and retry Nuremberg with their own judges in charge?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 06:39 PM
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14. Read how the ICC works
countries are expected to investigate themselves.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:36 PM
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16. Only if they are signatories to the court
That was my impression. I do not know if Israel is - I don't think so. The US is not either.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:02 PM
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17. Which means the ICC can do nothing
unless the UN security council authorizes it.
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