Bush abortion smear as mud flies

[papau]

http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,8722518%255E401,00.html


Bush abortion smear as mud flies
Phillip Coorey
19feb04
PRESIDENT Bush faced an extraordinary claim last night that he once paid for a girlfriend's abortion.

<snip>While Mr Bush and Senator Kerry have so far steered clear of personal attacks, their unofficial supporters are stooping deep into the gutter.

<snip>Now paralysed porn king Larry Flynt is preparing to publish equally dubious claims that the pro-life Mr Bush once made a girlfriend have an abortion.


<snip>Now Flynt, whose last political foray was a hamfisted run for Californian governor, plans to publish the abortion as fact in an upcoming book.

"I got the story nailed," he said. "I've talked to the woman's friends, I've tracked down the doctor who did the abortion, I tracked down the Bush people who arranged for the abortion."
The trouble for Senator Kerry is the Republicans, who have their backs to the wall at the moment, seize on such material as sanctioned mud-slinging by the Kerry camp. <snip>

[David Dunham]

1. Rove will now learn what goes around, come around!!

[Shoedogg]

2. Why do they keep referring to it as a SMEAR?

Doesn't it have to be shown untrue before you would call it a smear?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

6. You must not have gotten the memo

If it hurts a Republican, it's a smear.
If it hurts a Democrat, it's another example of why you can't trust those crazy left wing bastards. :thumbsdown: :puke:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. I just wish

That Flynt had a little more credibility. :shrug:

[Walt Starr]

7. Actually, his lack of credibility is a plus

Of course Kerry wouldn't sanction this sort of mud slinging from a pornographer.

:evilgrin:

Let's the smears happen withouta link to the candidate.

[iverglas]

14. when it comes to outing right-wing fundie hypocrites ...

As I understand it, Flynt *does* have considerable credibility.

Flynt actually made these allegations about Bush *before* the 2000 US election. However, his informant would not go public, although I believe he had originally understood she would, and he apparently always adheres to a policy of not outing his informants without their consent, so he did not pursue it.

As an outsider, I'm not perfectly familiar with the personages, but hasn't he succeeded with a couple of them?

Quick google ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt

During the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton in 1998, he offered a million dollars for evidence about sexual affairs of Republican lawmakers. He published a magazine about the results; his investigations eventually lead to the resignation of incoming House speaker Bob Livingston. He also accused Bob Barr of having committed perjury when testifying about his wife's abortion.

Livingston wasn't the only one as I recall ... there was a woman legislator he outed as a lying hypocrite as well I think; can't remember the name. Barr denies:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Clinton_in_crisis/Story/0,2763,209179,00.html

Mr Flynt accused him of hypocrisy. At a
Beverly Hills press conference, the
publisher of Hustler magazine produced
an affidavit signed by Gail Barr, the
congressman's ex-wife.

She claimed he had condoned and paid
$300 for an abortion in 1983. She also
claimed that he drove her to the clinic and
looked after their two children while the
operation was performed.

Mr Flynt contrasted this with Mr Barr's
statement at the couple's divorce
proceedings three years later, when he
said under oath that he had opposed the
abortion. In her statement, Ms Barr also
accused Mr Barr of having an affair with
Jerilyn Dobbin while he was still married
to Ms Barr. Mr Barr married Ms Dobbin a
month after the divorce. At the divorce
hearings, he refused to answer questions
about his alleged adultery.

Flynt's a disgusting human being, but there ya go.

.

[catzies]

18. The woman hypocrite you can't recall is Helen Chenoweth.

And the GOP House leadership moved from Gingrich to Livingston to Hastert as they eliminated lying adulterers one by one.

[iverglas]

39. that's her ;)

Unluckily for her, that's the one single thing I know about her!

.

[jmowreader]

53. I know her...

In her first campaign for congress, she loved to wear a t-shirt that said "Earth First! We'll log the other planets later!" to informal events like loggers' festivals.

I will say one positive thing about ol' Helen: Remember when term limits was the big mantra among Republicans? Mainly because they saw it as the only way to run off Democratic majorities? (This before Lee Atwater taught them to campaign.) And then they lost their enthusiasm for term limits when they took the majority in both houses? Helen Chenoweth term-limited herself. Served in Congress, then said "I promised to leave, so I'm not running this time." I don't think it was the adultery that did it, because she had the magic (R). In Idaho they have yellow-dog Republicans.

[Zhade]

69. Maybe so, but his allegiance to the 1st Amendment is rock solid.

NT!

[johnfunk]

97. there was a woman legislator he outed as a lying hypocrite as well

... named Helen Chenoweth.

I prize my copy of The Flynt Report. The editor, Allan MacDonell, held the one-shot publication to a higher fact-checking standard than most serious news publications.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. Flynt has EXCELLENT credibility because he never goes public...

...on these kinds of topics without having all of the facts from multiple sources.

Think what you want about Flynt, but he never lies.

[RaRa]

70. Yeah, but he was all talk during the impeachment

I think it was then. Or was it when Lott stepped down? Either way, I recall Flynt making these grandiose claims that he was going to expose dozens of Congressmen (both parties, but mostly Repugs) for their illicit affairs, sex lives etc. Nothing happened. But I believe this one to be true. I believe any smarmy thing I heard about shrub's personal life. It's all so befitting.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

72. Huh? He exposed several prominent rightwing GOPers during the...

...so-called "Clinton impeachment". Maybe you ought to review the news for that time frame.

Do the names Gingrich, Livingstone, and Hyde ring any bells? And that's only three of the congressmen that Flynt went after during that time frame.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

54. With every repug he outed during the Clinton years he used accurate info.

I don't see his "credibilty" as an issue. To me he is more credible and honest than most assholes in DC right now.

[leftchick]

4. There have been more negative bush* stories in the last week....

Than in the WHOLE last three years... Bring Em On!!!!

:bounce:

[bushisanidiot]

5. The Difference Is: AWOL's Camp Started The Fake Kerry Intern Story

while AWOL's aborted lovechild accusation is clearly NOT coming from Kerry's camp. Flynt would have come out with this story this year no matter what.

I think Flynt must have some hard evidence.. unlike Drudge. He sure made Newt Gingrich look like a fool for the affairs he had (and ignored while going after president Clinton for the same "crime").

[tlcandie]

8. He'll just say he got religion and he made a wrong choice ...

and the right wingers will forgive him. You can bet that he would encourage his daughters to have an abortion rather than go full term if they got pregnant w/o being married. Wonder if they use birth control? Hmmmm

I'm not taking on the girls...was just a question that popped into my mind and stating how hypocritical you can all but assume he would be in this situation.

This isn't enough, unless there's something way bad that Flynt uncovered, to do any thing other than keep people's tongues wagging, unfortunately :(

[David Dunham]

9. ILarry Flynt Must Have Assembled More Proof

I spoke with Larry Flynt's people last election (2000) about this story. At the time, he had hired PI's to get proof of the story. But the woman denied it and Flynt did not have enough independent proof to publish it. I guess he does now since he's going to publish it in a book.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

71. Flynt Apparently Has Sworn Affidavits

I read that four of the girl's friends have sworn out affidavits to substantiate Flynt's claims. Also on the internet this week was an British newspaper article (albeit from another tabloid) that alleged that the girl's parents have now come forward to confirm the story.

[Union Thug]

10. perhaps not...

...but it keeps them on the defense. It's hard to mount an effective offensive when constantly having to answer to allegation after allegation.

To paraphrase, keep pounding on the body and eventually the head will drop...

The Republicans have been *SMEARING* liberals for 30+ years. It's about time we fire back with everything in the arsenal..and then a few pigs and chickens, too. =)

[wryter2000]

12. Welcome, WillW

:hi:

[schultzee]

15. Yea, like the pigs did to Clinton

[calimary]

32. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Welcome, WillW! You're absolutely correct. It's all fair game. If THEY wanna play rough, so be it. We did NOT start this. We didn't even start THIS. Kerry and Edwards and the rest of 'em can take the high road while underlings and other folks on the outskirts can do the dirty work and get the goods out there. The republi-CONS have been doing dirty tricks and smear jobs and character assassinations for YEARS. DECADES. They wrote the book. So for them to go "crying in their teacups" about how awful it is do stoop to such depths, boo-hoo. Tough shit. They made this bed. It's their turn to lie down on it.

Your point is excellent - as long as they keep having to put out these fires, it keeps them off their game. They CAN'T focus on offense if they're forced to play defense all the time. We need to KEEP KKKarl Rove and his friends so busy putting out fires that they can't launch any molotov cocktails of their own.

Playing dirty? Yep. Lowering ourselves? Okay, fine, be that way. Somebody else can take the high road and watch themselves just get run over - AGAIN - by these people. I want to win. When we own the game board again, THEN we can change the rules.

And when Scott McClellan or some other talking head for the republi-CONS whines about how awful this is, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR PEOPLE SMACK 'EM UPSIDE THE HEAD AND REMIND THEM - AND EVERYBODY ELSE - THAT THEY STARTED IT. THEY RAISED FIGHTING DIRTY TO A HIGH ART. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN NOW, WHEN THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT. It's about damned time they got a taste of their own medicine.

Larry Flynt? Fine. He's at enough of a distance that Kerry doesn't have to get soiled by it. Flynt looked into this last time when Kerry wasn't in the picture, so he couldn't possibly be portrayed as a Kerry operative. If he is, this fact should be pointed out. Besides, Larry Flynt seems to know something about investigative reporting, and his efforts DID INDEED out Newt Gingrich, Robert Livingstone, Henry Hyde, Bob Barr, Dan Burton, and other hypocrites who were going after Clinton during the Monica business. Gingrich and Livingstone had to fall on their swords for their party, and Hyde, and Burton had to shut up and crawl back into the shadows. Bob Barr, too, was tarred, and subsequently defeated. It's the only thing these people know and understand. If they've determined that THIS is the coin of the realm, fine. Let's open our own bank.

The only way you beat a bully is by facing them down, and hitting them back. And hitting back HARD. And if that means up the ass, so be it. Wouldn't it be appropriate, and satisfying, to see KKKarl Rove have to deal with an enema that lasted for months?

As george w. schmuck himself would put it - "BRING 'EM ON."

[Crachet2004]

41. Push Polling is hitting back hard...

Three days before the Nov. election, every person on this board and others like it should do at least 10 push poll calls a day:

Would you be more or less likely to vote for the republican party if you knew:

1) George Bush was awol in 1972, due to
2) Seving community service time for a cocaine conviction.

And would it change your view of the republican party and their candidates if you knew:

3) George Bush committed stauatory rape on a 15 yr. old girl;
4) And subsequently covered it up with an illegal abortion?

Go Larry! Your magazine is disgusting, but if you nail this cretin for us, I at least will forgive you that...might even take out a lifetime subscription, which will be mailed straight to my trashcan. Bring it on indeed!!!!!

[LiberalFighter]

86. How old was bush when this happened?

[scottxyz]

96. Great push-polling questions, Crachet2004!

Three days before the Nov. election, every person on this board and others like it should do at least 10 push poll calls a day:

Would you be more or less likely to vote for the republican party if you knew:

1) George Bush was awol in 1972, due to
2) Seving community service time for a cocaine conviction.

And would it change your view of the republican party and their candidates if you knew:

3) George Bush committed stauatory rape on a 15 yr. old girl;
4) And subsequently covered it up with an illegal abortion?

Republicans taught us how to do this, by push-polling against McCain saying "Would you vote against McCain if you knew he had fathered a black child out of wedlock?"

Let them get a taste of their own medicine now!

[Bunny]

47. Go calimary!

Fantastic post. My sentiments exactly! :toast:

[Just Me]

61. Yeah!!! Watch out you Mayberry Machiavellis!!!

You have refused to play by the rules or take responsibility for breaking them while rolling over everyone and reaping all the benefits!!! The "REAL White Hats" have had it and we are taking you to the ring on your "bring 'em on."!!!

[RainDog]

22. if the story is true, it's about more than an abortion

and Bush getting religion after the fact.

if true, Bush helped a woman get an abortion when it was ILLEGAL to get an abortion.

he opposes abortion now because it's a sop to the talibornagains, but he knows that the rich will always be able to buy their way around the laws.

just like Noelle Bush's three convictions for CRACK cocaine...and her ten DAY sentence.

just like Bush getting into the Nat'l Guard and blowing it off, and like the chickenhawks in his administration who, as Cheney said, had "better things to do."

just like Bush getting bailed out by his daddy's friends and then calling himself a successful biz man, and the sweetheart deal with Bahrain for Harken, when Bush's co. had NO EXPERIENCE and lost to those who did, but then his daddy's middle eastern buddies (and Orrin Hatch's too, for that matter) were giving out the contract.

like one of his investors being in biz with 9-11 committee chair Kean now, and that same investor being listed, since 99, as a financier of terrorism...

seems like John Lindh didn't get the same leniency for his association with terrorists...

[Bozita]

11. Wasn't this girl under legal age?

Isn't that rape?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. The girl was 15 years old. Yes, that's statuatory rape in most states.

[0007]

65. Her name was Robin Lowman and she is now married

Living under her husband's last name.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

73. He was, or still is, an FBI employee.

[Whoa_Nelly]

75. The Bush Abortion Story from BartCop

Desperate Measures: George W. Bush & Abortion

Note: Apparently, the source of this story was due to go public (in 2000) via publisher Larry
Flynt, but found out that Flynt was planning to make a tabloid sale, and changed her mind.
Like George W. Bush's intervention in commuting the sentence of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas,
this is a story that is circulating in the press packs, but that few people want to touch at the
eleventh hour of the 2000 U.S. presidential election.


In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman
(now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Bush and he arranged for
her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal!
Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.

The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss
Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.

Read the rest of the story here
(just a couple of more paragraphs):
http://www.bartcop.com/bushabortion.htm

[iverglas]

80. Jim Bath????

From the bartcop article:

The source <friend of the woman in question> meanwhile,
is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened
by Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named
Jim Bath.

Not THIS Jim Bath??

And the abortion story is from 2000, remember.


edited to add: *now* I see that calimary already mentioned this in the thread linked above ... and calimary was borrowing from TruthIsAll.

Ah well, great minds. ;)

.

[Whoa_Nelly]

93. Yes, it is the same Jim Bath

The fact that this story is from 2000 makes it no less relevent today. Apparently the Bush abortion scandal has been kept under tight wraps in not allowing more press. Hopefully, Flynt's book will open up this secret can of worms.

BTW, great resourcing by TruthIsAll!
Thanks! O8)

[LiberalFighter]

87. If 1971 that would make gw 25 years old

That is bad Bad BAD to do with a 15 year old.

In some states it is legal to have sex with an underage girl as long as the boy was also underage. In some states there is a cutoff where one age difference is worse then a different age group. Which was it for Texas back then?

[Bozita]

90. It's Bush family values -- for your family to live up to

Bush family has an exemption directly from God.

[LiberalFighter]

100. god didn't tell me... god tells me everything!!

[schultzee]

13. If anyone can, tell Flynt to get it out ASAP, because he could

end up like Dr. Kelly, Paul Wellstone, and the lady who said Bush raped her. If anyone reading knows Flynt, tell him to submit an article before the book.

[Just Me]

16. Funny, a bzillion "right-wing" males read Flynt-type publications.

Yeah, yeah,...I know they hide them under their beds or whatever BUT they do love porn. I wonder if the story will spread to their other favorite porn publications *LOL*!!!

[coloktm]

17. We are winning...we don't need the sleaze

The whole rise of the Edwards campaign has been because of his postive tone. Kerry is winning in polls. To throw out sleaze like this doesn't do anything to help us. The pic in the johnny walker black posts with bush as satan...let's not let that stuff get out. We won't win any undecideds or disenfranchised repubs that way.

[bushisanidiot]

20. Last I checked, Kerry and Edwards Didn't Say a Word About AWOL's

aborted lovechild. Apparently, Mr. Flynt has proof that it happened and he is going to publish it.. why do you want to drag Kerry and Edwards into it as if they had something to do with the bush abortion? if it's true, it's true.

it's time for the kidgloves to come off. the press doesn't voluntarily pursue stories on the repukes unless they are "feel good" stories, but (as evident with the fake kerry intern story) the press foams at the mouth to rush after any smell of blood on the democratic candidates. Flynt is pushing this because the press has been sleeping on the job for the last 3 years.

[Union Thug]

23. exactly...

... an effective campaign doesn't necessarily originate from a specific candidate's HQ. The repukes have clearly demonstrated that political victory is bigger than a single candidate and his campaign's talking points. Just ask Rush or Hannity or Ann "the skank" Coulter.

[KayLaw]

25. Right

This is coming from Larry Flynt; there's no " we " involved here and I'm not even sure Flynt is a Democrat. What are you going to do?

:shrug:

[KansDem]

79. Flynt's response to Novak's question in 2000 regarding Gore...

Larry Flynt Drops Bombshell on Dubya
In case you missed it, here's the transcript from CNN's Crossfire by Dave "Doctor" Gonzo

Saturday, Oct. 21, 2000 -- NEW YORK (AmpolNS) -- Thank goodness for Larry Flynt.

Mr. Novak: Sir, I gather you're a very strong Gore supporter. Is that correct?

Mr. Flynt: I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils -- I don't like either one of them!

(more)

http://members.aol.com/okamwoc/larryflynt2.html

Perhaps he's independent?

[Just Me]

24. Republicans have been benefitting from scandal that draws audiences.

Why wouldn't or shouldn't the Democrats? Being "above" the fray of Republican venom has simply allowed the Republicans to use underhanded tactics to defeat us. In my view, either we fight back until the battle is won, placing ourselves in a position to have influence in positive ways,...or we continue fighting to lose.

[Malva Zebrina]

40. sounds good, but it certainly does not hurt to let Bush's sleaze throwers

and inventors,that they had better watch themselves because we also have some sleaze ammunition. It might make them hold back, you know.

[JPace]

50. No "sleaze".....

I call them simple facts that need to be layed
out so that AWOL's conservative base can make
choices based on his true history.

And yes the "sleaze"..oops, facts as dirty as they
are DO help us. We did not live AWOL's history,
only he should feel dirty!

[Sideways]

55. Thanks preacher coloktm

NOT. The sleaze as you call it is real. Johnny Walker has the absolute best depiction of Bush. He is a fucking devil hence his graphic is spot on. But we should not "let that stuff get out." BAH. Anyone following politics already knows that Bush is an ignorant devil shitdustbag. Here's my advice moralist build a bridge and get over yourself.

BTW the We and Us lingua franca attempts at unity are really lame.

We know who and what we are. Capiche?

Welcome to DU :loveya: And yes WE ARE WINNING!

[Demeter]

78. Yes, we DO need The Sleaze

Sleaze sells, and sticks. Rational discourse in this country will get you Gitmo. 50% of the population can't handle reality without the addictive additives of sleazey sex. Bring it on!

[Jackpine Radical]

26. Flynt can deliver

the jack-off vote, and with that we can win.

[gimme a break]

82. Not if his readers can't vote because

they've got carpel-tunnel.

[LiberalFighter]

88. Especially those NASCAR fans you think?

[David__77]

19. We need to find this out!

If true, it should definitely be used against him, though not by his opponents' campaigns. It would have to be independent progressive expenditures. If true, what hypocrisy!

[jeanmarc]

21. How did this story miss the Drudge Report? Shock! [nt]

[Jackpine Radical]

27. Yeah. Where's that Reporter Matt Drudge guy

now that we need him?

[ConcernedCanuk]

30. Drudge only hangs out in the Lounge and Gen Discussion 2004 Primary

.
.
.

and only in the Daylight hours !

what's up with that . :shrug:

Oh,

he must work nights ! - doh . . .

:dunce:

[Jackpine Radical]

35. So, I been wondering...

Which DUer is masquerading as Matt? He does a great job.

[ConcernedCanuk]

38. Not sure, but he appeared right after Grovelbot disappeared -

.
.
.

So far, he only posts during the days, ( nite-job maybe?)

I suspect he is either in the "Admin"

or has their blessings ?

:shrug:

[Jackpine Radical]

43. Hmmmmmmmmmm--a mystery...

Maybe we should start a thread in the lounge to collect other theories and then poll to nominate the most popular candidate.

[ConcernedCanuk]

45. There's already a couple of threads like that in the Lounge

.
.
.

One is a poll

And there are lots of theories !

[Jackpine Radical]

56. Ah, well--

Haven't been much of a lounge lizard in years. I better go look.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Flynt NEVER publishes "dubious" claims. His detractors never learn.

[globalcitizen]

33. remember Livingstone?

He has excellent credibility since he put up $1 million in 1999 to anyone who could come up with proof of having an affair with a Republican congressman, remember? And he caught the guy who was about to be anointed Speaker of the House (Livingstone) and ended his career. Can't wait to see what he's got on the hypocrite Bush.

[underpants]

34. Yep I think that came out two days before he was to be Speaker

That is how Hastert got the position, although I don't think anyone believes that anyone but Delay is running the show on the hill-both houses Frist is just a suit too.

IF this is true what on EARTH will the christian right do?

[Cooley Hurd]

67. ...and the very day of the impeachment vote, too!

I sat in front of my TV, mouth agape... He resigned and called on Big Dog to resign with him. Psych! Big Dog didn't follow his lead.

:7

[yellowcanine]

36. How reliable is Phil Coorey and the Sunday Times?

I am sceptical that Flynt would go with this now when he apparently sat on it in 2000 because he didn't have it nailed. What changed?

[JoFerret]

42. Flynt mentioned it on TV in 2000

CNN I think. It just never got picked up.

[JoFerret]

37. Now it's in the UK papers

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13961727_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-ABORTION-CLAIM-HITS-PRESIDENT-name_page.html

And background on how long this story has been out there at :http://www.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Bush%20Abortion

[gate of the sun]

44. See bush is going down

the mud is flying......we got ourselves a replacement that the repubs. can accept.

[GovtMule]

46. God, I hope this can be proven

A huge portion of W supporters like him for two reasons: he's a Christian and they (wrongly) believe he's a tough Texan who's great at protecting this country. The AWOL thing if proven can show him to be a liar and a "deserter." That chips away at both of those qualites (Christian and tough patriot) the Bushbots hold so dear.

The abortion situation, as discussed, should greatly diminish the religious advantage he has. Someone made a good point about his folks forgiving him, as good Christians are supposed to do. Well, abortion is murder to the pro-life set. Many of these people also support the death penalty, which is far from forgiveness. How can we put folks to death for one type of murder and forgive another? I don't know if that would sink in with them, but maybe the Dem candidate could connect the dots for them.

[Bunny]

49. In the minds of the religious right,

abortion is murder. And not only did this abortion occur before Roe v. Wade, making it an ILLEGAL murder, the girl was only 15 years old!!! Statutory rape, anyone?

[gimme a break]

83. Yeah but

it was before he found God. Any fundie can tell you that whatever happened before you got saved is washed away.

[Bunny]

85. Oh shit, that's right!

I forgot about that 'washing away' part. So, for dubya, all is forgiven then?

[LiberalFighter]

89. I didn't know the "rule of law" allowed for "washing away"...

as means to escape criminal charges.

[hippiechick]

48. Exactamundo.

Gate of the Sun gets today's Gold Star for shrewd dot-connecting.

:yourock:


:hippie:

[Democat]

51. When it's against Kerry, it's a "rumor", against Bush it's a "smear"?

Take back the media!

[callous taoboy]

52. Aw, c'mon...

Are you sure we're talking about Mr. Abstinence Education?

[nolabels]

57. I wonder if the book is going to be in hardcover?

If Larry dropped the skin and just published controversial stuff like this could he get an audience?

Oh, forgot it was them folks, the one's who believe in the paternalistic enslavement of all women to their beliefs who were the ones toting them specimen jars of dead fetuses for show-and-tell. On second thought, maybe Larry should cater to the wants and needs of womans visual experience, would that be a switch?

P.S. sorry if I offended anyone, I am just another myopic male

[LiberalFighter]

92. Hey those republicans like to read about the fallen...

so they can be uppity and claim to be saved because they are annointed.

[demdave]

58. I hope Flynt names the girl and gets the TV trucks parked outside her home

Then if we are lucky we might be able to get an exclusive interview with her current family, or even children :bounce:, and ask them if they knew their wife/mother had had an abortion when she was young. Who knows, maybe it will cause such a stir that her current marriage could break up and we could blame Bush for that also.

I mean, it really doesn't matter what kind of harm we could possibly do to this woman's family and life by bringing up facts from her past, right? I figure she has it coming just for having slept with Bush. :puke:

Go get her Larry. <sarcasm>

[area51]

62. supposedly

Her name was Robin Lowman & is now Robin Garner. Here's a link.

[Terran]

59. this is puzzling (well, not really)

Now paralysed porn king Larry Flynt is preparing to publish equally dubious claims that the pro-life Mr Bush once made a girlfriend have an abortion.

Why is this charge "dubious"? Such things have no doubt happened thousands of times to couples of all walks of life. It's just part of the human sexual territory, really. If Bush did do this, it would hurt him far less to admit the truth than to try to cover it up. He's such a child about lying.

[demoman123]

60. Is this what the election is going to be about?

Alleged abortions, putative girlfriends, supposed Vietnam War activities? This is the Oprah-ization of democracy.

"Drudgification" would work here, too.

[nolabels]

64. Remember we are trying to keep the reports "SEXED UP"

Can't let * run on his record, can we?

Caution, talking to much about things like that could be hazardous to your weapons analyst's life

[kwolf68]

63. Flint should give up story

Flint isn't an idiot...He knows that this story would have more legs if someone other than himself broke it.

Flynt should make a deal with a "legit" writer/paper/magazine/etc...and let THEM break the story. How much weight will noted pornographer have here?

If Flynt really wants to nail Bush he should pass this story off to someone else. I believe its just a publicity stunt to get press for himself.

Don't get your hopes up...When our only hope to "break a story" on Bush is from someone like Like Flynt then that says all you need to say about the shape of our democracy and media.

[nolabels]

68. He holds no copyright on any story

The others are not doing it because it would be bad for business, if it would help them, you know they would be on it.

If enough dust is kicked up they will have to at least touch on it

Larry probably don't worry about it all too much, some nut case has already took his legs out from under him.

[Zhade]

66. This is a Murdoch-owned rightwing newspaper.

You can definitely see the bias showing.

[symbolman]

74. Is there a Statute of Limitations

on a Statutory Rape Charge?

Go Larry!

Remember, he's gone to JAIL for the First Amendment...

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

77. I'll ask my lawyer friend.

:evilgrin:

[gimme a break]

84. Texas Law

<What you may need to know about Sexual Assault:
Age 17 is an adult for all practical purposes under the law.
Age 14 is the cut off for being a child under the law.
No one under the age of 17 can legally consent to sex.
A 3-year age difference must exist for "statutory rape" charges. (The actual charge on this offense is sexual assault; there is no statutory rape in the state of Texas).
If you are even thinking about prosecuting a sexual assault, go to a hospital in your county and have a rape kit exam performed. A rape kit may be done at law enforcement's expense within the first 72 hours following an assault.
The rape kit exam must be performed in the county in which the assault occurred regardless of personal preference. This is not a payment issue, it is a prosecution issue.
Statute of limitations on sexual assault is 5 years.
Statute of limitations on child sexual assault is 10 years past the victim's eighteenth birthday.>

http://www.rcccc.org/asltfact.htm


And here's another link:
http://www.rainn.org/statutesoflimitationcrim.pdf

[King_Crimson]

76. I hope...and I'm probaly hoping against hope itself...

that someone...somewhere could dig some dirt up on Rove! If that little rat bastard could be distracted defending himself, that would open the floodgates for an all out assault on Bush and the rest of the thugs!

[Nashyra]

81. A copy of the book should be given to *

and then he should admit it if was correct and let the poor woman on with her life. The fact that this election has come to this can only be placed at the feet of the Repukes. They open this box wide open with their 77 million dollar investigation of Clintons penis.

[scarface2004]

91. screw him!

he didn t pay for it is the problem!!

[Catherine Vincent]

94. Remember when Flynt was on Crossfire before the 2000 election?

He changed the subject and spilled it then but CNN redacted the transcripts right before our eyes. I remember that like yesterday. They had their message boards up at that time and we tried to raise a stink about it but nothing happened. It proves that CNN and others didn't want to hear anything about Bush* but yet they reported everything about Gore.

Fucking media whores!

[JoFerret]

95. Yep Flynt spilled the beans then

...let's see where this one leads this time.

[Whoa_Nelly]

98. Jackson Thoreau stated that there were FOUR abortions re: Bush (8/2i/03

As Bush hypocritically pushes anti-abortion agenda, did he impregnate young women and make them get abortions in his single days?

By Jackson Thoreau

<snip>
In the course of some research, this source learned that Bush might have impregnated FOUR young women, one of whom was UNDER 18, which is against the law in most states. At least one supposedly had to be sent out of the country to get the abortion done.

I called a hospital where one of these abortions might have occurred, and a spokesperson said the hospital didn’t release such records, if they exist at all. Remember how we found out about Bush’s 1976 driving while intoxicated conviction in 2000? That record had been buried in a court in Maine, and it was only through the perseverance of a television reporter that it was unearthed. This is a pattern in dealing with Bush, who has left a trail of buried and purged public records throughout his life.

Through public records, I located the present address of one of the women, who is one year younger than Bush and living in a Texas town with her husband, who is reportedly an FBI agent. But my efforts to call her stalled when I discovered her phone number is unlisted. Since her town is about 300 miles from mine, I couldn’t conceivably drive there. I doubt she would talk to me anyway; she was probably either paid to stay quiet or intimidated into silence by the Republi-Thug Mafia.

I also discovered the name of another woman who Bush allegedly made get an abortion, rather than father his child, during his carefree and forgetful younger days . But I have had no luck tracking her down, either.


http://www.opednews.com/Thoreau_bushAntiAbortion.htm

[JoFerret]

99. Another one picks up the story - Canadian and drudge

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/04021804.html