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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:53 AM
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Dean will end his campaign today at 1 p.m., AP quoted as source
on c-span.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:55 AM
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1. Sorry
:cry: I will miss the good doctor.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:57 AM
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2. Owe him a huge debt
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 09:57 AM by ritc2750
Back when other Democrats were running scared, Dean was fearless in attacking Bush.

It sounds as though he plans to keep working for the eventual nominee and keep the pressure on the Bush Administration.

Now there's a patriot!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:14 PM
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24. Yes, Howard Dean is a True American Patriot!
Thank you, Doctor Dean.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:39 PM
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37. If I were King I'd appoint Dean as President but we're fighting for the
survival of our country and have to play a game with voters which most have no idea what the truth is. 'Liberal Press', when ever I hear someone say that I know that they are evil people or really just don't follow what's going on in the world.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:00 AM
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4. You look like you need a shoulder to cry on.
:cry:
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:59 AM
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3. A shame to see him go..
.. but with such a small chance of a comeback, it's the right time.

The major questions now, I guess, is if he's going to endorse any of the other candidates, and if he does, whether it's Kerry or Edwards or a third candidate. I can't see him endorsing Kerry after his little jab at the special interests.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:13 AM
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5. Howard Dean Changed Everything
I was for Clark. But I am not alone in saying: I was furious at the party "leaders" for not taking on Shrub. The only one who had the courage to stand up to Bush was Dean. Its because of Dean that the other less courageous candidates now have a chance.

Thanks Howard!
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cid Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:31 AM
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11. So how do you think one of these "less courageous" candidates
is gonna deal with a republican congress? think they will have the "courage" to veto bad bills that are passed? Based on their performance these last three years...i dont hold out a lot of hope. Sorry, jsut my feeling. I hope and pray Im wrong.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:33 PM
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36. Anybody but Bush!
I agree with your point, unfortunately. But anything will be better than Bush. No question.
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Kbick Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:18 AM
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6. Prepare for the pain
My heart goes out to all Dean supporters.

Start preparing for the day that you remove Dean for America from your favorites list. I just recently removed all of my Clark 04 links.
It hurts bad.




Clark/Dean or Dean/Clark
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:20 AM
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7. This will be a rough week for all of you
who loved Howard's candidacy and were energized by it. I'm just now beginning to work my way through the numbness...and the vacuum created by my candidate's withdrawal.

In fact, it is hard to be interested in the process anymore...but I have faith that by the time it rolls around to having to watch Dubya again...and have our nominee suffer the abuses of the smear machine...I'll be right back there loving our Democratic candidate.

It sure takes time, though...to come down.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:22 AM
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8. I guess the lesson is
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 10:23 AM by MGKrebs
that the system is more screwed up than we thought. We thought we could change it NOW...THIS TIME. Alas, many voters are still slaves to the media spin, and will find any excuse to NOT HAVE TO THINK TOO HARD ABOUT POLITICS.

People want change...no, they want to SAY they want change. But when it comes down to putting it on the line, they want the same old thing. The sad irony is, Dean isn't even a risky change...the media just made it seem that way. Dean pointed staight at US, and said, YOU have to take responsibility...and we failed to. We don't want the responsibility of having to put down the XBox for a few minutes and pay attention to the way our government runs.

I am despondent about the future of democracy.

edit typo
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:27 AM
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10. I completely agree with you.
We are doomed if Americans really believe the man with the melting face who is the most uninspiring speaker on planet Earth is our BEST choice.

Americans get what they deserve in November and I don't give a shit any more. I know Howard is too decent a guy to say "I told you so" but I'll say it...you suckers believed Rove when he said "bring it on" to Dean with a smile.
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Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:43 AM
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13. That's the key...
"any excuse to NOT HAVE TO THINK TOO HARD ABOUT POLITICS."


The problem really is that you could totally leave out "ABOUT POLITICS" and the sentence still rings true. Most Americans seem to HATE to think.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:55 AM
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18. Things I've learned in GD2004 so far:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=293810

6) Should my candidate win a primary, it is a triumph of democracy. Should he / she not win, the establishment is trying to flout the will of the people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:49 PM
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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:23 AM
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9. Please read this..
On dean mail today!!

We have succeeded dramatically in taking back the spirit and words of
the Democratic Party. With our support, Howard Dean has put a spine
back into a Democratic Party lying prostrate in the road, literally
run over by a Republican War machine.

We are not done Taking Back America.

The race for the first Great House of the American Constitution
appears to have moved into a stage beyond our control. We
ferverently hope that today's poll numbers for the Fall campaign for
this first Great House remain there to the end. As we know, however,
poll numbers in one season can easily disappear in another.

While the national media and the special interests have taken over
this race, this vast grass roots revolution in American politics is
not over.

There are four Great Houses of the American Constitution. We, this
grass roots movement of unparalleled dimension in the history of
American politics, must simply now shift our focus of attack to the
second Great House: the U.S. House.

The House of Representatives is the bastion, the unassailable
fortress of Republicanism in America.

George Bush did not cast the deciding votes at 4 AM to destroy the
future of Medicare. George Bush did not vote to pass budget deficits
reaching past a half trillion dollars. George Bush did not vote to
pass the Patriot Act. And George Bush did not vote to abdicate his
constitutional obligation to cast his soul into a declaration of war.

These were the acts of the other "Great" Houses of the American
Constitution.

This movement to take back America has been informed by the media and
the party establishment that it is now becoming an impediment to the
anointment of the original Prince-to-be. Yes, we will vote for this
Prince of our party. Better our Prince than their Fool.

But we must be realistic: we are not fools. Our man was in the cross
hairs for a year, and it took the unfair edit Scream to finally
deliver the dirt on Dean We are not deluded in our concerns about the
real electibilty of the anointed one. Three weeks in the media cross
hairs have already unearthed concerns. There is a reason why we are
still with Dean, not someone else.

No, if we are truly a campaign to Take Back America then we must now
turn our focus to the real bastion of Republicanism in America: the
U.S. House of Representatives.

Now, you ask, what exactly do I mean by this? Let me mention one case
proven already.

Leonard Boswell, Iowa Democrat running for the U.S. House. We
Deaniacs raised $50,000 for this campaign in two days because we
heard it would make a real difference. When the Democrats are voting
at 4 AM on whether or not to kill Medicare, we don't care WHAT state
that vote which made the difference in our favor came from. The fact
that it was a Democratic Vote of Democratic Intent is what is crucial.

Let me give another specific example.

There is a two-term Republican named Mark Kirk in the Illinois Tenth
Congressional District. This man was a Naval Intelligence analyst
during Iraqi Freedom, and this man is still convinced those WMD are
over there, and is a more hard-over rightwing Republican than George
Bush himself. Unfortunately, this man is also a handsome Naval
aviator in a rich Republican district that somehow thinks he's
an "environmentalist" and a "social liberal".

During the run up to the war, many people in Kirk's district were
very concerned about the planned hostilities, and many inquiries were
made to Kirk's office to request his position on the war and an
explanation of it. As a matter of fact, at a time when millions of
people around the world were marching in protest against the planned
assault on Iraq, there were several thousand in this very district
who marched many times and at many different places.

A leader arose from among these people: his name is Lee Goodman. His
decision to run against Mark Kirk came to his mind the day he and
over a hundred of his fellow voters went to Mark Kirk's office, after
having previously arranged the meeting with Kirk's office, and,
instead of meeting with the congressman, were locked out of his
office and then pushed away by policemen who suddenly appeared on the
scene.

Even now, peace activists across the country are now under
investigation as terrorists. The recent events at Drake University,
where records from the Catholic Peace Ministry were subpoenaed (see
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0207-07.htm), the plans for
bringing back the Draft, and the growing militarization of American
life only add further urgency the need to take our country back
before it is truly too late.

It is people like Lee Goodman and those who support him who are at
the heart of this new Democratic resurgence; this campaign to Take
Back America.

In our neighboring district, the Illinois Eighth District, there are
actually THREE Democrats running against that perennial nexus of
Republican power in the House, Phil Crane. To our north, in the
Wisconsin First District, another Kirk-like Republican appears to
hold his district in a complete thrall.

We must use our grass roots structures to organize regional events
whereby our man, Howard Dean, would fly in, set up camp at somebody's
house, and then bring lots of local media attention and name and face
recognition for our Democratic candidates for the House.

Howard has already written the standard unified Text for the
Democrats this year. He simply needs to take our message to new
venues where his buzz will transfer buzz to our local House
candidates. We, his grass roots supporters, can work with the local
House candidate to put everything together, and Howard simply shows
up, and voila, now our local candidate gets a front page story in the
local papers or local TV FOR FREE.

Working together across districts, on a region by region basis,
Howard could simply travel across the country, hitting multiple
districts in a single day or weekend, moving on, and then coming back
again in a few weeks to stoke the flames some more.

I know each of us wants to keep this dream alive. I believe this is a
way for us to re-channel our energy, talent, organization, and money
so that we will really move the revolution in American politics to a
whole new level. Our internet-based network and proven record of
setting fund raising records can combine with the authenticity and
integrity of a man like Howard Dean to make an impact of unimaginable
proportions at the very grass roots where this Constitution was meant
to begin.

Before Howard shuts down anything, I think we must all approach him
on this, and ask him to take up this new challenge on our behalf. I
am posting this message on all our Dean Yahoo sites, and the Dean
Blog, and I would ask each of you to consider this proposition
seriously, and then call Burlington and write to the Blog and do
whatever else you can to make your voice heard in the planning
sessions that will be starting very shortly.

As he keeps telling us: we have the power, and it's about us. We can
change the Democratic Party, and we can change America. We will never
give up on this mission: we want our country back. We are simply
opening up a second front on Republicanism.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:51 AM
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15. I, for one, am completely dedicated to the mission towards change.
That is why I love Howard and look forward to continuing the journey. Courage, persistence, hope are the elements of change which evolves over time, not overnight.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:51 AM
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16. Wow!
Dean in the cross hairs, indeed! :)

This is cool.
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MostlyBlackCat2 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:02 PM
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23. but who wrote this?
This isn't from Howard Dean, this is from someone who wants to ask Dr. Dean to change his focus - granted, to something good - but to something he hasn't done and probably won't do. That's an expensive proposition, and let's face it - the man has a wife and family - he's not some pawn that can be shuffled around and be made to "simply travel across the country, hitting multiple
districts in a single day or weekend, moving on, and then coming back
again in a few weeks to stoke the flames some more."

Whoever wrote this has a lot of passion, and that' s wonderful, but a bit of compassion for the man would be nice, and a good dose of realism would be advisable. I'm sad that Howard is quitting - he gave me hope that things could change and that we the people could make a difference. I believe in him still, but the media and big money has won once again, and yet another battle for the greater good will end with a whimper - and no one will protest or stop traffic or shut down their place of employment demanding change. The sheeple will just go on believing whatever they're told, and america will continue to be an aristocracy.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:34 AM
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12. Thanks Howard!
You made a run at the White House truly possible! :pals:

Though I was not likely to vote for Dean, I have always sincerely appreciated the efforts he's made to make jabbing at Bush a fashionable thing to do again, something that was well overdue. Thanks again Dr. Dean!!

P.S. I hear Maine is a beautiful state this time of year! Move up there and take a Senate seat for us! :D
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:45 AM
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14. Dean is still electric and I hope he uses that electricity to get all
of his supporters behind the democratic nominee when the primaries are over. He really needs to stress that. It bothers me to hear the people who are so pro-Dean that they want him to run as an independant to "teach the dems a lesson".. of course, the people saying this may actually be repukes posing as Dean supporters.. I heard some of them on C-span this morning and immediately thought this isn't what Howard wants.. he doesn't want to divide the liberal votes and assure prez. AWOL another 4 years. Nader taught us a lesson.. and that is UNITY!!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:54 AM
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17. The media screwed him royally
Now it's Kerry's turn.
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CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:01 AM
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19. A round of applause for Dr. Dean
He showed the Democrats that they would have to stand up to the repukes and Bush to get their base back. He showed them the importance of having a backbone. If we get our country back in 2004, Dean will deserve a great deal of the credit.

Dr. Dean is a little too conservative for my political taste even though I voted for him in the SC primary. However, I have great respect for him for having the courage to show other Dems what it takes to win and for exciting so many people about the 2004 election.

He deserves an important place in the National Dem Party and in a Dem administration in 2004.

Don't just disappear Dr. Dean. The Democratic Party and the American people still need you.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:34 PM
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25. Applause indeed
Dr. Dean: :yourock:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:02 AM
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20. Dean Gave Me Hope
:cry:
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:05 AM
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21. I feel...
...empty....Dean has been my #1 choice (out of who actually had a chance), this is really depressing...
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:16 AM
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22. I'm very sad about this too
Dean wasn't my 1st choice but I secretly thought he was going to take the whole thing.... and that was my hope. I would have been proud to cast my vote for Dean. I will always wonder if he really slid so badly or if the media/BBV/corruptness in voting took him out.

An Article I will Never Forget:
http://rense.com/general49/deandeb.htm
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bigfishsmallpond Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:35 PM
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26. No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No
This was not how it was supposed to end.

:cry:
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MostlyBlackCat2 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:37 PM
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27. I feel your pain.
barely going to make it through work today, and really glad I have a door to my office I can close.

:cry:
:hug:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:51 PM
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29. If we win this election it will be because of Dean
I am just sad I will not get to vote for him

:(
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:50 PM
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30. I'm voting for Dean, anyway
In the primaries, that is - I'll support the Democratic nominee in November, though.

Howard, God love ya, we hate to see you go. You reenergized the Democratic base and changed the tone of the campaign. Don't be a stranger, okay?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:15 PM
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31. He should endorse no one. No one.
Either, as Dean claimed, his campaign was about clearing out the cockroaches, or it was simply about saying so.

The reform candidate - Dean rose above his own compromise-riddled political history to become this - should never undercut calls for reform by lending his voice to the status quo. Dean would risk undoing all he said and converting to cynicism those whom he gave hope, however meager it proved, of political evolution in the party.

The coming weeks will be a greater test for Dean even than the race, as the party establishment that viciously spurned him now cloyingly begs for his rubber stamp.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:18 PM
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32. Will you support the Democratic nominee?
My candidate lost as well, but I will support the Democratic nominee to the fullest. Will you?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:19 PM
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33. so here in CA I don't even get a chance to vote for him?
this primary system has to fucking change. What the fuck do Iowa and New Hamster have to do with anything in this country?

If the primaries had started in California, Dean would probably have won and be the front runner right now.

This sucks.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:25 PM
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34. This is a sad day for America.
I've never been this involved with a campaign before and I just feel heart-broken over this. I just hope people appreciate what Dean has done for the Democratic party. :cry:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:05 PM
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35. What's important now
Now it's down to Kerry and Edwards - most likely Kerry. Whoever wins the primary must be careful not to let his campaign become yet another white-bread affair. Dean can help a lot in this regard if he can still motivate his own base.

Kerry's riding pretty high now, but he'd better remember what shape his campaign was in just a few months ago where it was looking like he'd have to bow out. It'll take more than Vietnam medals and motorcycle rides on Jay Leno to make sure he still leads Bush in the polls. It's going to take a clear, consistent message to the American people - one that can persuade independents and fence-sitters.
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pbo Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:35 PM
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38. Dean for President
Think about it, the media didn't want him, so they squashed him. The DNC powers that be don't want to stand up for our values and seem to be alienating the real base. How about this one:

Let's draft a ticket of Dean/Gore '04. Gore would have to agree to the number 2 spot, but I believe he is really most interested in getting the country back, above being first on the ticket. If Bill Clinton got it with something like 43% of the vote, imagine what we could do by creating some energy around the Dean and Gore core. These guys really generate energy, and my fear is that John Kerry is too close to the right/money base.

With the inevitable 3rd party candidate on the right, I think we could have a really good shot at it.

Any feedback ??
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