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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:02 AM
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Better times near, Bush officials tell state areas hurting for jobs
Better times near, Bush officials tell state areas hurting for jobs
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001859855_econtour18m.html

By Beth Kaiman and David Postman
Seattle Times staff reporters

Three members of President Bush's Cabinet yesterday rode a bus through some of the country's highest unemployment areas, saying better times are close at hand because of the president's tax cuts, job-training programs and economic policies.

"You have to go where the problems are," Commerce Secretary Don Evans said in Richland before the Northwest tour headed to Yakima. Evans and his colleagues started the day in Spokane and today will be in Portland and Eugene, Ore.

---snip---

Washington and Oregon have been among the states hit hardest by unemployment. Washington has the fourth-highest unemployment rate in the nation and Oregon ranks second, according to December figures.

In Washington, Yakima and the Tri-Cities remain among the areas with the highest rate of unemployed workers.

But meeting with unemployed workers was not part of the agenda.

"We talk to them all the time," Chao said.

----------------------

didn't meet with unemployed workers,, but talk to them all the time? :wtf:

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:20 AM
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1. I have the answer for this.
Let these people not working start their own business!!!!!!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:45 AM
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15. So do I--- be a Greeter at WALMART
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 10:51 AM by saigon68
A lot of seniors----- now work there, to pay for their Medicare deductibles.

And the chimpanzee thinks----

I need to help my friends in the oil industry-- but

no help for you Grandma-- you are used up </sarcasm>
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 05:27 AM
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2. Wow, they will stand in front of some boxes labeled Made in the USA!


And give a bullshit speech!

I'm sure people from the northwest will flock to hear their positive message of hope, before they leave to go back to Washington to bang their hot mistresses and smoke cigars on the taxpayer's dime...:eyes:

Or better yet, maybe a scripted question and answer session!

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:23 AM
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3. So if they didn't meet with the unemployed....
WHO did they tell this wonderful news to?

God, what utter brainless twits.

Folks, you've been caught. You can try and talk your way out of it, but it just won't work.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 06:37 AM
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4. Sure, jobs are only an election away (Plus info on PDX protest)
Fuck them! Fuck them with a sharp pointy stick! Yeaaargh! I may be going to that protest againts Evans-Chao-Snow axis after all. Repulsive en extremis.

This was particularly disgusting:
---
In the Yakima restaurant, Mike Leita, a Republican activist, said the president's tax cuts are working and have translated into better business at the hardware store he co-owns.

"I want them (tax cuts) made permanent," he said.
---
Sure, now that we're unemployed, we all have a lot more time for home repairs. That's why your stupid hardware store is getting business, you dumbfucking republican!

From http://portland.indymedia.org
Make Sure They Hear from Oregon Workers About the Impacts of the 
Bush's Economic Policies On Jobs, the Jobless and Working Families

Portland Wednesday Morning

6:45 AM: We will meet at 6:45 AM tomorrow at the ground floor (West
Side) entrance of the AFSCME office at 123 NE 3rd Ave., just north of
the Burnside Bridge.

7:00 AM: Get on the "We Want Our Jobs Back" bus or join our car pools
and travel to the Rock Creek campus of Portland Community College,
17705 NW Springville Road, Portland, where the cabinet secretaries
will be meeting with business leaders.

8:00 AM: Prepare to welcome the cabinet secretaries with signs and
banners. Or join Oregon workers for a special Workers Rights Board
hearing on the impacts of Bush's economic policies on jobs, the
jobless and working family incomes in Oregon (Building 2, Room 124 on
the Rock Creek campus).

9:00 AM ? 10:15 AM: Welcome the cabinet secretaries. Each of the
cabinet secretaries was invited to join the hearing in letters faxed
to their offices today by Mitch Freifeld (a laid-off software
engineer) and Scott Axness (an unemployed electrician). Freifeld,
Axness and others will be available to tell their stories to the
cabinet secretaries and to the media. (Note: Our bus leaves at 10:15
AM, returning to the AFSME office by 11:00 AM.)
Come as you are, as you were, as I want you to be
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:05 AM
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10. now that we're unemployed, we all have a lot more time for home repairs
very true. I've redone my bathroom, installed shelving in every part of the house, put up 3 ceiling fans, landscaped, disposed of a garbage disposal for a new one, replaced old curtains, restored two formerly-defunct PCs...sure, not necessities, but ya know, it feels better to be looking for a job in a more comfortable environment. Home Depot employees nearly greet us by name when we come in.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:43 AM
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12. How does one afford home repairs while being unemployed?
I wouldn't spend a dime that wasn't absolutely necessary, until I found another job, which seems to be next to impossible these days.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:10 PM
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24. Depends on your unemployment bennies, natch
Check out JusticeForAll's post right over yours for an example.

Not everyone is immediately destitute upon losing employment; I've made a few home improvements since quitting my job that I never would have had time for otherwise.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:19 AM
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5. How is this man going to get another term?
You can't crap all over me and then tell me not to look so downcast, because Charmin is on the way (especially since the Charmin factory laid off all its workers). He created this mess; he cannot also then be its savior. That's Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, isn't it? Those parents who sicken their children and then rush in to "rescue" them?

Get these incompetent murderers out of the White House! I cannot for the life of me understand the level of support that the illiterate, kill-happy pinhead continues to sustain in this country... what is wrong with people?

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:12 PM
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19. Here's how....
...Diebold. And others...
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:42 AM
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6. These polecat cowards "rode a bus through" the unemployed areas
"Prosperity is just around the corner." "A chicken in every pot." Where have we heard all that before?

Not only can't George "Herbert Hoover" Bush muster the courage to talk to even one unemployed person himself, but his proxies are too chicken to get off the goddam bus and talk to them too.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:47 AM
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7. Flashback: Rev. Jim Jones says, "Better times are near..."
"...now drink your Kool-Aid!"

According to the Bush admin last year, tax cuts would spur tremendous job growth and by this time we'd be up to our asses in good jobs.

It didn't happen, Shrub. On to Plan "B" - tossing you out on your ass!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:00 AM
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8. That "light at the end of the tunnel" is a train coming straight at ya
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:04 AM
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9. Wonder if he is telling these folks how their increases in tolls, public
parking, and other public services is a direct result of his tax cuts that have denied states and localities the needed Federal resources that were providing these services?

I bet they can name without thinking hard exactly what ate up their $300 tax cuts.
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:12 AM
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11. Yeah, right. Better times are coming Real Soon Now...
..as soon as we put Junior's ass on a bus back to Crawford!
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:14 AM
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13. "Better Times Are Near"sez Bush
"trust me" -- I don't think so George.

Better times are near. The world will be a much better place on Jan 20 2005 when Bush* and his corrupt cronies are replaced with people who believe in core American values such government of, for and by the people.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:30 AM
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14. Herbert Hover, "Prosperity is just around the corner."
Creepy similarity.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:26 PM
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16. You want creepy?
How's this? Hoover had some problems, but was still smarter than *.

Duluth News-Tribune Sunday April 18, 1934

$7.5 Billion Deficit Eyed by Hoover

WASHINGTON, April 17 (ap)
Former President Herbert Hoover
warned today that next year's fed-
eral budget deficit may reach "71/2
billion dollars or more."
Pleading for a halt to tax cutting
for the present and stronger ef-
forts at cost-cutting, Hoover told
the American Society of Newspa-
per Editors that "the disciples of
more spending and still lower tax-
es are having their way."
His remarks were aimed in
part at "pressure groups"
seeking large expenditures and de-
mands in Congress for further big
taxcuts.
The former president warned that
the potential deficit; 2 1/2 times
as great as the official forecast
of
the Eisenhower administration re-
flects an inflationary policy which
is "the surest road to disaster in
our society of free men."
"It is the surest road to disaster
in our defense against the Commu-
nist horde," he added.
In an address' prepared for a
banquet ending the editors' three-
day meeting here, Hoover said
newspapers must preach patience
to the states, cities and pressure
groups who bombard Washington
with appeals for"handouts."
Hoover promised that, if post-
ponable outlays can be deferred
for a while, his Commission on
government Reorganization will
be able to report within a few
months on methods of saving five
to seven billion dollars of govern-
ment spending annually,
But he painted a bleak picture
of current progress of the Eisen-
hower administration's effort to
deem its pledge of balancing the
budget.
"It is already clear that the def-
icit for this fiscal year ending 76
days hence will be larger than
the budget estimate (of $3,300,000,-
000)" the Republican elder states-
man said.
"For next year instead of a $2,-
900,000,000 deficit, it will rise to a
minimum of five billion dollars.
And if the George amendment
(to increase personal income tax
exemptions) passes the deficit may
rise to 7 1/2 billion dollars or pos-
silbly more."

This does not take into account
what Congress may do in appro-
priating funds, Hoover said, "if
the demands of pressure groups
have their sweet way the situation
will be even worse - some people,
have expressed the horrid thought
it will reach nine billion dollars."
Whereas the "handout philoso-
phy" at one time was "tax and
tax, spend and spend," Hoover
said the refrain is now "cut taxes,
cut taxes" but the spend-and-spend
philosophy lives on.
"The immediate medication is
no further reduction of taxes
than
the administration proposals, and
to systematically reduce govern-"
ment expenditures until the budget
deficit is met," Hoover declared.
"Then and then alone, can infla-
1tion be stopped"
With a little patience, he went
on, defense costs can be reduced
by taking advantage of new weap-
ons and methods of warfare. There
is hope in this field, he said, be-
cause "the New Looks by the Ei-
senhower administration gaze in
these directions." But he added
"Let there be no mistake, we ------"Make no mistake"???
must have full defense."
The white-haired former Pres-
ident also saw prospects for bet-
terment of government financing
in the expanding frontiers of sci-
ence and invention which, he said,
are boosting productivity and will
increase the federal revenues.
Hoover advised the editors not
to believe that inflation has been
stopped. "It will continue as long
as we have a deficit," he said. He
pointed out that a family now re-
quires an income of $3,700 a year
to achieve a living standard that
a $1,500 income would buy 23 years
ago. The buying power of pen-
sions and savings has been cut in
half "amid millions of trage-
dies,'. he said.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 01:36 PM
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17. New slogan!
"Bush 2004 - Dumber Than Hoover"
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:23 PM
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20. Hey, don't pick on Hoover. He was a really smart guy. Truly.
There was some long time Whitehouse reporter who had been privy to interacting with Presidents from Hoover to Reagan and he claimed that Hoover was a friggin genius.

He was truly a totally self-made millionaire and a Quaker to boot. With the exception of FDR, he advised every President up until his death, Democrat and Republican.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:02 PM
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18. "You'll all be millionaires soon. Just like us."
"Take our word for it."
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:28 PM
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21. sing along now, " Somewhere,... over
the rainbow, dreams can come true."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:37 PM
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22. This asshole talks like a dirty rotten lying slum lord
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:44 PM
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23. "Prosperity is just around the corner." - Herbert Hoover.
These clowns seriously need some unemployment!
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