Baptist Committee Votes to Leave Alliance (It's Too Liberal)

[Khephra]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention voted Tuesday to withdraw from the Baptist World Alliance, saying it has become too liberal and advocates "aberrant and dangerous theologies."


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"We want to underscore that our departure is not intended to cast aspersion upon the many godly and enthusiastically evangelical Baptist fellowships that are members" of the Alliance, said Morris H. Chapman, president of the convention's executive committee.

Nevertheless, a task force report in December claimed the Alliance showed a "decided anti-American tone."

The report also said the Alliance promoted women as pastors, frequently criticized the Southern Baptist Convention international missions board, refused to talk openly about abortion and funded "questionable enterprises."

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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-baptist-split,0,4191418.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

[Jacobin]

1. Talibornagains

are getting more and more radical

[BadGimp]

12. lol "Talibornagains" lol

That's funny!

[xxqqqzme]

2. wasn't Dr King

Southern Baptist? Amazing how times change or do I just not understand the bureaucratic organization of the S Baptists?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

10. Jimmy Carter was too...

and he disassociated himself from the church when the fundy freaks started taking over.

[bobbieinok]

17. NO- at that time no blacks were so bapt

he was a baptist, but a member of one of the black bapt denominations

[Rasmodia]

3. I guess you can't fault the ones who's beliefs haven't changed

God's core teachings don't change.

[xfundy]

9. God doesn't change

...but the "biblical" excuses criminals use to dupe their followers into hurting others sure do.

Slavery was a-OK with Jesus, the "Christian" leaders said, and followers agreed. Churches made special "missions" to teach slaves the biblical verses saying "obey your masters."

So was not allowing women to vote, outlawing "race-mixing," allowing anti-Semitism, segregation, no response to AIDS, and, of course, hating gays for political gain.

You fundies can't fool me, I was raised to be one but came to my senses.

[Kookaburra]

14. Thank you Xfundy

That was exactly what I would have said. God does not change He/She is everlasting. Only our perceptions of God change. As do our interpretations of a book that most historians would be loath to use as a definitive text, owing to its many revisions and exclusions throughout history.
You see, I too was raised in the Southern Baptist church, so I'm familiar with their agenda. It's all about control.

[bobbieinok]

18. US Baptist denomination split over slavery

So did Presbyterians and (I think) Methodists.

The other 2 reunited after the civil war. The Baptists did NOT.

[Occulus]

19. Bet the Bible itself has, though n/t

[leesa]

4. I wish the American Taliban would Rapture already. I am certainly

looking forward to their departure. The world might just have peace for the first time in centuries!

[lcordero]

6. They need their own Jim Jones...kool-aid and all

[DenverDem]

5. Southern Baptists aren't Christians.

They are a radical wrong wing political party.

[Sandpiper]

7. The Southern Baptist Convention protects our youth

From dangerous and immoral activities...like dancing. :crazy:

[0007]

8. Mullah junior will help

[Maat]

11. Help...my in-laws moved back to the Bible-belt & became...

fundies. I asked them if they were aware that their Baptist church, which became quickly all that they talked about, was part of the Southern Baptist Covention, that had been virtually completely taken over by right-wingers in the 1990's (I guess efforts to have a complete fundamentalist takeover began in the eighties, but finally came to fruition in the 90's), and asked them if they were aware that women were forbidden from being pastors and that the fundies actually belived in 'reparative therapy' for LBGTs (sheer idiocy in the view of this social worker...believing in rep-ther, that is). They kind of giggled and sheepishly admitted to being part of the Ignorance. Now, I find myself on the opposite side of the fence vis-a-vis these guys (who I used to love to be around) with respect to just about every belief/lifeview under the Sun.

[xchrom]

13. let them go

their insanity can do less harm if they only talk to each other.
they are not christian -- but the level of their violence prone paranoia is disturbing.
i think that some isolation will bring some folk out of their grasp as they begin to feel closed in and suffocated -- at least i hope so.

[MisterC2003]

15. American Taliban

I hope they don't wind up killing people and setting off bombs. They are headed off to loony-land.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. Elsewhere in the world Baptists aren't political fundamentalists

The Baptist World Alliance's response ( http://www.bwanet.org/templates/aso08bl/details.asp?id=21610&PID=128966&mast= ):

"Will Ideology, Power and Control Lead to the Dissolution of the SBC? In reflecting on this tragic decision, I have realized that this decision is really the triumph of ideology over doctrine. SBC doctrine is a call to unity among its churches. Why then separate from the world of Baptists? In the end, it became a question of power and control and the desire of forcing Baptists of the world to fit into one particular mode or mold or interpretation of thinking. This is contrary to all Baptist understanding of the competency of the individual and of soul liberty!"

[MadHound]

20. This is nothing new

The Southern Baptists have been crazed right wing fundies for as long as I've been alive. I should know, I was brought up one. Had to leave the church when I was twelve though, I couldn't stand their hypocricy and prejudice. I think my pastor was relieved though. Nothing like a smart ass kid showing you up on religious doctrine.

Went with the Catholic Church for awhile too, but found it was the same ol same ol in regards to foolishness and hypocricy.

My mother was Roman Catholic, my father Southern Baptist. Was baptized in both, so I guess that makes me Roman Baptist, or Southern Catholic, or maybe just :crazy: