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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:30 PM
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Kerry Tops Bush In CBS Poll
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 08:32 PM by dArKeR
Americans’ continued worries about jobs and the economy, along with a decreasing belief that Iraq posed an immediate threat to the U.S., has weakened what had been strong support for George W. Bush, and given his Democratic opponents an advantage -- at least for now. Most Americans also believe the Bush Administration exaggerated the pre-war intelligence about Iraqi weapons, and that Bush's self-described status as a "war President" was brought on by his own choices, not forced upon him by world events.

Registered voters now give a five-point lead to an unnamed Democratic candidate over George W. Bush. By 47 percent to 42 percent registered voters now say they would support a Democrat over the Republican President.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/16/opinion/polls/main600505.shtml

Don't let up until the Bush Crime Family is jailed in Guantanamo Bay then tried for Crimes Against Humanity.

We're taking our country back!!!!!!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:32 PM
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1. This is by a smidgen over statistical error
yes, we are taking the country back
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:33 PM
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2. Keep up the pressure
Everybody, pile on! Don't let any opportunity pass to expose AWOL for the lying robber baron that he is. Also, please make sure the people who you assume are "safe" Dem. voters haven't been swept up in the media whore spin of the last three years. Confirm that they will vote against AWOL. If they say otherwise, start working on them!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:36 PM
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3. And don't stop pounding the Whore Media. That's always our secondary.
They're headed for Guatanamo Bay for Treason and Racketeering trials.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:41 PM
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4. What's amazing is that Kerry's margin over Bush
is the same as the unnamed Dem's. You know how the conventional wisdom is that an actual candidate never does as well as the generic one. I know it's early, but for Bush to get only 43 percent of the vote is terrible for an incumbent president.
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:53 PM
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7. Especially for an incumbent who was as popular as *
Looks like Rove was making some big mistakes while he thought he was winning...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:03 PM
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12. Not surprising. I think the respondents assume Kerry..
will be the nominee. So they're thinking Kerry when they respond to the unnamed Dem.
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DemoVet Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:50 PM
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5. I like the idea of ALL of those PNAC'ers at Gitmo
Just put them in the general population and let the games begin. None of those guys has gotten laid in quite some time....bet even Wolfoshitz would look good to them about now. It sure would be a fitting punishment.
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:53 PM
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6. This is nice enough I guess
How many points ahead was Dukakis?

This battle will be won on the ground, not in the polls and not on the internet.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:55 PM
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9. Only after the Dem convention
and he didn't fight the Lee Atwater machine the way Kerry will fight the Rove machine.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:55 PM
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8. love the image
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 08:57 PM
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10. Not nearly good enough.
Still too close to steal and not a mandate to drive a complete change in Congress. We need 65-35 in November.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:03 PM
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11. I think 65-35 is just a teensy bit unrealistic
:)
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iam Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:03 PM
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17. Right
When 55 to 45 would be a landslide. A humiliation. A dream.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:20 PM
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18. I'm Not So Sure About That. Look At What Happened In CA..
Its MHO that voters in America are not in a very forgiving mood. As support for Gray Davis dropped it never even hinted at recovery. No matter the issue or revelation. American voters are not giving out second chances. He could just keep on dropping.

Jay
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:47 AM
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20. I'll settle for the paltry 43 percent Clinton got in '92
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 01:48 AM by jsw_81
Just as long as we win. Remember, the electoral vote is all that matters.
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capriccio Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:05 PM
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13. And lookee here
From CBS:

"One of the reasons that Kerry does so well against Bush is that he is able to keep the greatest share of Democratic voters -- he is the frontrunner for the party’s nomination both in the number of primary and caucus victories so far and in overall popular support, and as the choice of more than half the Democratic primary voters in this poll. In the General Election match-ups, Kerry would be the choice of 84 percent of Democrats, while 12 percent of Democrats would vote to re-elect the President. "

Imagine what just half of that 12 percent of Dems could do to the margin of error if they truly understood the stakes in this election. I wonder how many of them are unrepentant Reagan Democrats and how many of them are like our fellow DUers who...who...oh, never mind. I'm sure they'll be here tomorrow night to tell us in their own words why Kerry is unworthy of their vote.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:08 PM
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14. We have to keep on fighting. This is a good start but we....
need more.

:dem:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:50 PM
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15. So far I really like
the rapid return fire of the Kerryistas.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:08 PM
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16. Good news....but, there is still a long time to go....the issues
that most concern people are reflected in part of the article posted below.......I've enjoyed the AWOL up roar, but I think Kerry is correct when he says he's not making it an issue.




"George W. Bush’s job approval is 50 percent, unchanged since last month. His ratings in specific areas -- on the economy, foreign policy, and handling Iraq -- are under 50 percent, and only when it comes to his handling of terrorism does a majority approve of his performance. 57 percent say the Administration exaggerated pre-war intelligence about Iraq's weapons in order to rally support for the war.


Views of the direction the country is headed are often considered a predictor of how an incumbent president will do when he stands for re-election, and from that perspective the news for Bush is not good. 51 percent think the country is headed on the wrong track, while 41 percent think it is going in the right direction.

Last December, Bush would have prevailed over an unnamed Democrat by nine percentage points, 49 percent to 40 percent. "
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Ridley Park 704 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:31 AM
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19. it would be nice if they did battleground state polls
Then we could see how good the Democrat is doing in states like Missouri, Ohio, Nevada, and Arizona, head to head with Smirk.

But I think this popular vote trend, as reflected in these polls, is looking very good!! I mean, what crystal ball last May could have forseen such numbers by February? This is astonishing. We're going to do it.

Dear RNC, some years ago Coca Cola spent $200,000,000 to hawk New Coke, but it was a rotten product and nobody wanted it.




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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:37 AM
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21. A good start,
but we'll have to do much better than that in order to counter the electronic "voting" machines votes.
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