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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 04:53 PM Original message |
Bush's Test for Pilot Training Was Altered |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gee, I'm getting used to hearing another lie revealed every day. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Actually no |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great catch! |
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Womblestuffer (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. looks like originally a 20, definately changed |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
99. I'm not sure it looks like a 20 |
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SquireJons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. Bush Failed His Pilot Aptitude Test |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. Much controversy over Poppy Bush and his war efforts - Some say his |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. I've heard that also.. |
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Shoedogg (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. Of COURSE it was altered... |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. The original lie.... |
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Taeger (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Statement of Intent |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. He thought it said "making LYING a lifetime pursuit..." n/t |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. ROFLMAO! |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. If Bush flew like he does everything else one flight might just..... |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
98. Maybe the TANG Wanted To Use Him as a Kamakazee Pilot |
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snippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Outstanding. |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I enlarged the doc and read 45, not 95 for both high scores. |
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Mithras61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
95. I looked at it at 400%... |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I don't think 50 is very "OK", it's definitely an "F" in any college |
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snippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. "odd is that he got OK marks in all the other categories" |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. You're right, the scores are percentile, not percentage |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. * scores are average to poor |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. navigator on a cargo plane. On the JFK to Newark run. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Naw! Maybe a janitor on Amtrak with Joe Dirt |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
83. According to post #14, O.Q. and Verbal are 45. Not 95 or 85. (n/t) |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
85. Math not good enough to |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
89. Motor skills? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
103. Looks to me like RJI not RJD. That would be CAPT. Ralph J. Iannuzzi... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Looks to me like 25 was written sloppily, lined out and initialed |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I think you're right, 5 is the only number that looks to fit what's left. |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. Also take note |
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tinymontgomery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. I know in the navy deck logs |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
100. White out? Then create a fake number to strike through? |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. I saw the same thing. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. Maybe he'll rethink his position |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, 25 is the lowest score possible. |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I got a 93, same eye problem (and I was already a commercial pilot) |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. http://www.larryflynt.com/articles/deserterinchief.html |
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LostInTheMaise (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. Larry Flynt as a source? |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Larry's abused women? |
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militarymanusaf (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. When did Larry Flynt abuse women? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. no -- greg palast as a source |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 12:00 AM Response to Reply #76 |
87. Theft?? |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. How did he get a 95 on his Officer Qualification? |
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Taeger (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. Interesting |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. that was the frat prank |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
84. There was also a 1967 arrest that he DIDN'T mention on the form |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
86. Is this listed? |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Shrub was not a fighter pilot. |
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Tuttle (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. What does the Daytona 500 have in common with the TANG? |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. wheeeeeeeeeeeeee ! |
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teach1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm more interested in the verbal and quantitative scores |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't think so, but it's been a very long time ago. But pretty sure it |
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teach1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Here's what I found... |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Thanks. I thought about percentiles after I posted but wasn't sure if I |
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KDLarsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Well.. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. These are all PERCENTILE scores |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Geez, he can't do anything without cheating. |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
27. "RJD" Initials are |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
57. Wonder if Ralph J. Iannuzzi is still alive... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
101. Why did Iannuzzi cross out 1st Lt? |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. THAT is the interesting part to me. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
28. Couple of things I find fascinating.... |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Cap't is higher rank than Lt. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Wow, I stand corrected! |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
112. Let's hope that he will never get re-hired for a job |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. RJI |
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koopie57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. I think that is looks like - 5 |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
36. It read 2.5 before... |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
42. That verbal score jumps out at me. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. No, it's 85th percentile |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. That's what I mean |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It's 85th percentile |
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Ysabel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
91. it means that 85% of people did better than Bush... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. It's the other way |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
45. George's SSN: 460-74-8610 |
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Leados (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I can't find anything with LexisNexis |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I wonder why this "mistake" was made... |
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Leados (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Looks like it was issued in Texas |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Maybe he got a new SSN when he got a new DL number? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. If I'm reading this page (see link) correctly, his number is pre-1965. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
96. right--this is not a CT-issued SSN |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. 1964 he turned 18 |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
105. It appears to be legitimate |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. First three digits are specific to the state of issue |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Sorry, but my mum's begins with "553" and that was issued in CA |
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Robin Hood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
50. IT states that verbal aptitude is 85. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I think that was meant to be BS |
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teach1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Check the verbal and math from Yale |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. that's it...71 and 72 in the ONLY economics course that shrub took |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #71 |
92. And a 75 in "city planning". He must have had a real interest in it. nt |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
110. Reconciling Bush*s SAT to his Air Force Aptitude test might |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
54. I updated Bush's resume with his arrest record and links to the pdf |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
111. Go ahead and add the 1967 arrest too |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:53 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Thanks! I added that one now :) |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bush never flew solo! I can feel this in my bones! I've got a sixth sense! |
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LostInTheMaise (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Congrats...now how to prove never flew? |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. I can't, but if there's an investigation it will come out. We don't need |
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LostInTheMaise (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. Must. Dig. Deeper. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. Look at Page 22. "Do Not Volunteer For Overseas" is checked and... |
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symbolman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. Hey, here's what I was looking for! |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. A man interested in women, whiskey, drugs and more drugs |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
66. It's not the only thing that was altered. |
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uhhuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
69. How's About This? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
107. They use military dating system |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
75. BTW, "25" is the minimum passing score on that test |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
94. That 25 score - has anyone noticed |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. If we only had a better copy of the original to analyze |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
77. that's too rich! bush is SO busted! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
78. Put a monkey in the cockpit, and the jet'll crash every time. |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
88. Dummy forgot to put a name on the test. |
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Bozvotros (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
90. Check out bottom of page 37 on the pdf file |
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lowreed (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
93. Bush will visit Nat'nl Guard base before.... |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
97. 25=(1 point above "Too Dumb To Fly") |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
104. Looks to me like RJI not RJD. That would be CAPT. Ralph J. Iannuzzi... |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
114. The more I study that darn '25' I'm convinced that it was |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. The 2 on the 25 looks like a Z almost |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. blow it up to 400% and it reads 15 & O. Q. = 9.5 not 95 |
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Elwood P Dowd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Holy $hi# |
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