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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:30 AM
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Lawmaker wants to tighten Utah alcohol rules
Source: Associated Press

A Republican state senator says he wants to keep alcohol out of the view of minors in restaurants -- at least until it reaches a customer's table. Senate President Michael Waddoups, R-Taylorsville, said children shouldn't be allowed to see liquor bottles or drinks being poured.

"Restaurants are turning into bars," Waddoups said. "It's making it look attractive. Kids see it and wonder what they're missing. I think we need to be a little more strict."

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my eyes! my eyes!

I am forever destined to be a lush...I saw liquor as a kid!!!!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:33 AM
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1. Waddoups sounds like a guy who'd have women who breastfeed in public ...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 08:35 AM by meegbear
locked up as Level 3 sex offenders.

But at least he's being charitable:

Huntsman has pledged to eliminate a state law that requires customers to fill out an application and pay a fee for the right to walk into a bar. In Utah, bars are open to the public, but are considered private clubs. It is the only state in the country with such a law.

No wonder the Osmonds are fucked up.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:46 AM
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5. NC
has laws that require establishments that sell liquor must serve food (and certain percentage of their sales must be food). If not, they can have a special (more pricey) license and they fall under the title of private clubs which requires membership (the local bar I go to it's $1 for the "membership card" - and another $1 each time if you lose it - and that happens fairly regularly)
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:46 AM
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9. When in college in Texas....
it was in a dry county and you had to fill out an app and pay a fee ($1) and you became a club member. Through a lot of activism-we were able to turn the county moist (you could get wine and beer readily but had to go to a club or drive out of the county to get hard liquor). What a racket-the biggest supporter for the church lead dry folks were the liquor folks in the next door wet county.:eyes:
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:25 AM
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13. I remember reading the autobiography of Barry Switzer the former
coach of both the Oklahoma Sooners and the Dallas Cowboys recalling his father was a bootlegger who was condemned on Sundays but was praised every other day, by those same church folks.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:19 PM
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25. My fav scenes in the Simpson movie was when ....
the planet was going to be hit by the asteroid. The people from the church ran over to Moe's tavern next door and the folks inside Moe's ran into the church. My relatives were farmers in Oklahoma (way down yonder in the Indian Nation) and self sufficient-IN EVERY WAY. They didn't grow tobacco during the war and Depression-but they grew the poor man's tobacco and made their own hooch.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:00 PM
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19. It used to be a more widespread practice.
In my 20s, I was a 'member' of a local 'club.'
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:36 AM
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2. Put Burkas on the bottles?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:42 AM
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3. And put blindfolds on girls who promise abstinence
so they won't see the penis they will dally with.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:44 AM
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4. He wants children to be innocent
when he molests them.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:24 AM
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6. so store the liquor in old coke bottles
if he doesn't want kids to see liquor bottles, then just put the liquor into another bottle that typically holds more kid-friendly drinks
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:32 AM
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8. Better yet they could just put Mr. Yuck stickers on the bottles
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:31 AM
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7. You can't buy alcohol anywhere but a state liquor store. You can't buy cold beer. You can't buy
alcohol on Sundays or holidays or any hours that the state store is closed.

Those heathens need to tighten those laws before all the kids catch alcoholism from Chili's.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:50 AM
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10. Minnesota's liquor laws are very wierd...
No sales on Sunday. No sales of liquor, wine or beer in supermarkets, but 3.2 beer is available in supermarkets, but not on Sunday.

Many counties and small cities in the state have Municipal bars and liquor stores, and private equivalents aren't allowed in those counties and cities. Originally designed to prevent drunkenness, the "Munis" are revenue-producers for the jurisdictions.

The supermarket chains keep trying to change the laws on sales in their stores, but the established liquor store lobby keeps defeating the effort. There is, however, one grocery store I know of in Minnesota that is somehow grandfathered in.

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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:01 AM
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11. 3.2 beer....
Thats all they sell in Oklahoma. The locals refer to it as beer flavored water.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:09 PM
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15. In the 1970s I took a flight from Colorado to Texas -
the flight took us over Oklahoma. The attendants suspended drink service of alcohol while we were in Oklahoma air space. Weirdness.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:13 PM
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20. Is there really a law that extends into OK airspace?
While MN laws are a bit screwy, they are better than most. I was still impressed in Wisconsin how open they are with the booze in supermarkets, ability to buy on Sunday, Spotted Cow beer, etc...
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:58 PM
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21. I don't know about now - apparently there was one then . . .
I thought it was odd (but I don't drink alcohol on airplanes anyway - it's too dehydrating - so it wasn't an issue from my pespective).
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Penance Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:49 PM
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24. Here's one for you
When I was a kid, I lived in western Kansas. My father (originally from Chicago) was drinking in a bar with a coworker one night. His coworker was drinking the 3.2% beer and he was drinking the regular stuff. At 11:55, the bartender tells his coworker that he will have to cut him off due to the time and tells my father that he could serve him until closing. He tells me he's pretty sure that law's changed since the mid 70's...
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 06:06 AM
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27. Is there anything good about that state?
I've long sworn never to set foot in any majority Muslim country, because the combination of no drinking and not being able to look at or talk to women pretty much defines hell for me. But states like Oklahoma and Utah don't seem any better.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:38 PM
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17. You can purchase 3.2 beer in a supermarket in Minnesota after noon
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:39 PM by dflprincess
or I'm guessing it's still that way. That actually seems odder than not allowing any sales on Sunday.

When I was young and working in a grocery store we'd have people lined up waiting to buy their 3.2 beer. This was most common during the Viking's season when, I assume, they had forgotton to go to the liquor store on Saturday. It always irked me that there was always some jerk who would try and get a cashier to ring it up before noon, becoming progressively nastier as you kept saying no - nevermind that anyone who rang the beer up early would lose their job if they got caught (and this was a union job that payed really well back in the 70s).

Remember when Edina didn't allow any on dale liquor (not even wine or beer)? At the time the Radisson South was built, it straddled the Edina/Bloomington line and the two cities worked out some land swap so all of the hotel was in Bloomington. Otherwise, some of the rooms (and maybe a restaurant) would not have been able to servie alcohol.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:02 PM
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22. Would that be Sentyrz' in Northeast Mpls?
I know it well.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:23 AM
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12. I guess liquor could be served up in brown paper sacks...


Yeah, now that looks classy!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:30 AM
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14. Hell with all that -- I'm staying in Wisconsin
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:41 PM
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16. Tighten Utah alcohol rules?
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 12:42 PM by KamaAina
Is there caning involved? :scared:

edit: spelling
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:31 PM
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18. Nobody did, but if you ask me
Utah's already about two drinks behind.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:15 PM
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23. I didn't know you could buy liquor or any kind
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 08:18 PM by xxqqqzme
of alcohol in Utah.

Don't let kids it on the bar stools - then they can't see those drinks being made.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 04:45 AM
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26. It's a good thing minors aren't allowed in Safeway, Luckys, Costco, or whatever other....
grocery stores that have the gall to display liquor openly.
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