Woman Denies Rumors of Kerry Affair (Alexa talks on record)

[MoonAndSun]

<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=2&u=/ap/20040216/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_polier>



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Breaking her silence four days after the allegations surfaced on the Internet, Alexandra Polier issued a statement to The Associated Press, saying, "I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false."


Kerry already has denied reports that he had an extramarital affair. On Monday, his campaign said he would have no further comment.


Polier's statement was released to the AP in Nairobi, where the 27-year-old freelance journalist is visiting the parents of her fiance, Yaron Schwartzman, an Israeli who was raised in Kenya. She previously worked as an editorial assistant for the AP in New York.








this should end this now, I think.

[bushisanidiot]

1. Straight from the horse's mouth. The repukes and her parents have some

'splainin to do!

i'd like to know if someone went to her parents with a suitcase full of cash and they were willing to play ball without talking to their daughter to see if the allegations were true or not.

[MidwestTransplant]

29. Her parents just said

Kerry was a scum bag. Doesn't mean there was a relationship. They may feel he was hitting on her.

[diplomats]

Read this statement from her parents

"We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family," the statement said. "We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

I'll bet those quotes were fabricated.

[koopie57]

104. Now this

sounds more like an intelligent woman who is a world traveler. And her parents sound more like what one would expect of someone who raised an ambitious, intelligent young lady. Sleaze bag, nastier, super rich just never fit. What pisses me off is how ignorant
Rove(r) and company think the American people are.

[emulatorloo]

36. Guess what?!?!? Her parents are VOTING FOR HIM!!!!!

A statement by Terry and Donna Polier, the parents of Alexandra Polier:

"We have spoken to our daughter and the allegations that have been made regarding her are completely false and unsubstantiated. We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family. We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040216/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_polier_statements

[Robbien]

75. The 'scumbag' remark was started by a tabloid in the UK

and spred around by Rush, dittoheads and freepers. The typical GOP rumor mill.

[waylon]

2. Not if the tv network has the goods, as has been claimed.

I smell a coverup

[Cush]

5. if she knows a tapes exists

why would she now deny it?

[bobbyboucher]

11. Are you serious?

Tell me you're not serious. If that's what comes to mind instead of "who the fuck made this story up and why hasn't Kerry filed a defamation suit?", then you got some serious troubles.

[bowens43]

26. Yes, by all means believe the unsubstantiated rumors

even after Sen Kerry and the woman in question both categorically deny them. This is the reason Rove still has a job.

[aquart]

32. Do you, Waylon?

But, see, her denial would be the excuse for the network to release the "tape," to prove she's lying, right?

Unless it's all Rove garbage.

And if this is all he can come up with for $200 million...then Kerry is much cleaner than anyone thought.

[Cooley Hurd]

62. Okeydoke, Waylon - it's your scandal to prove...

What do you know that everyone, including the principals, doesn't know?

Personally, as a Dean-supporting Dem, I'm thrilled to hear this is all bullshit. Why aren't you? :shrug:

[brentspeak]

110. I smell disappointment

on your part.

And a Kerry victory in November.

brentspeak

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. I hope this will be enough for the people on DU psuhing this story

[mourningdove92]

6. WooHoo!!!!

I am so glad to hear this. Thanks to this fine lady for speaking out.
:toast:

[mac56]

12. I doubt it will.

There are many on DU who need and want this story to be true, because they think it boosts their own candidates.

I'm just sayin'

[Onlooker]

16. Actually I don't think that's true

There may have been a few people who were hoping this is true, but a lot of people were fearing it was true. I was a Dean supporter, but I'm okay supporting Kerry because he may have the best chance to beat Bush.

[boxster]

19. Agreed.

[Skip Intro]

4. I'm a Dean supporter, but I'm glad to read this

It wasn't just Kerry that could have been damaged, it was our hopes of kicking the moron back to tx had Kerry won the nomination and this then exploded.

Don't see how this could continue now.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

7. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

YES!

I wonder how many of the people who've been pushing this UTTER NONSENSE are going to have the decency to eat a little crow, now?

DTH

[seventhson]

17. If the video interview turns out to be a lie and there is NO "friend"

I prefer my blackbirds baked in a pie.

[5thGenDemocrat]

53. Well, after two phone calls this afternoon and another last Friday

I can tell you that the Saginaw News (MI) isn't going to. They ran the Drudge piece on Friday. I called, cancelled my subscription (no loss -- the paper has an online edition), and asked their Metro Editor -- why this story belongs in Metro escapes me -- should the story turn out not to be true, whether or not they'd give the debunking as thorough a prominence as they did the hatchet job.
Oh, sure, Metro Editor Rob H said then. Of course, when I followed up in the wake of the 12:37 AP wire story this afternoon (after the last edition of the day came out), Mr H and I got a little snotty with one another -- he said he never said such a thing and that I must be mistaken.
Then a follow-up call with Paul C, the editor-in-chief, who I used to work with at Bay City and who is, by my personal knowledge, a pretty good guy personally. He said I should be familiar with the News' standards for fairness and accuracy (I am -- I've read the dirty little rag my entire life) and that, depending on the amount of news tomorrow, the News would give this AP story "equal prominence."
I really, really doubt that they will. I suspect it'll be buried around A5 under the lottery numbers and used-car ads (so to speak).
But what are you going to do? Paul said he gets far more calls from righties claiming the paper slants too left. So maybe we aren't calling and bitching enough. I, for one, intend to do something about that this campaign season.
John
At least until they stop picking up their phones, anyhow.

[saracat]

8. Hallelujah!

Maybe now the current obsession by certain people with RW rags will subside. I am so sickened by people hoping to take down any Dem candidate with such garbage!

[bluestateguy]

9. Ha! Look at this!

Drudge claimed that the father called Kerry a "slezeball". Oops!

In a separate statement, Polier's parents, Terry and Donna Polier of Malvern, Pa., dismissed the "completely false and unsubstantiated" allegations about their daughter.


"We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family," the statement said. "We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

[boxster]

15. Pardon my language, but....

Holy Shit!

Not only was the Drudge story a plant, it was completely fake.

Unbelievable.

[seventhson]

10. Boy - I would love to have been a fly on THEIR wall

Let's see now if the video tapes turn out to be a lie.

If THAT's a fabrication - then I apologize for falling so deeply for it.

I cannot stand the Bonesmen. I really cannot stand Kerry. I would believe almost anything about him. But I did say that if SHE denies it then I will back off.

If there ARE tapes which contradict this story: then it is a NEW story because her credibility is shot.

But this remains to be seen.

[MoonAndSun]

18. I said that I believed Kerry when he said on Friday that it was not true,

and now that Alexa herself has put it on record, then the next step would be for Drudge to be put on the hot seat for trying to smear Kerry.

I support Dean but I want him to win without a sex scandal, and I think that the majority of Dean supporters feel the same way.

[metisnation]

23. libel/slander

possibly defamation of character...lets file a lawsuit against Drudge!

[Bragi]

90. An angle

Someone could sue Drudge on the basis that the rumour was floating around the two primaries over the weekend, and caused them to vote for someone else.

Probably wouldn't win the suit, but it would keep his sleeze out in the open.

- B

[aquart]

35. Well, I know I do.

[mobuto]

21. You would believe almost anything about Kerry

Yes, we've figured that one out, Seventhson. Long ago.

Why?

That's less clear.

[seventhson]

Ther Bonesmen are IMHO evil

all of them

[Screaming Lord Byron]

41. Fair enough, Seventhson. What do you think they're capable of?

No burn or trap. I just want to know what you believe.

[mobuto]

54. But why do you think they are evil?

If your undying hatred for Kerry is based on the belief that all "bonesmen" are evil, then clearly you must be able to support the contention that all bonesmen are evil. Right?

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

43. I think he answered your question in his post

'I can not stand the bonesmen.' (jist of it)

Bill

[DeepModem Mom]

51. I know a young "bonesman" very well....

and have known her since she was a small child. She's female, Jewish, smart, and a natural leader. I admit, I don't know much about the Skull and Bones controversy -- and if they have Geronimo's skull, they should damned well have the decency to return it to his descendants -- but I would vote for this girl, who would run as a Democrat, for President someday, without hesitation.

[mobuto]

55. Do we know the same person?

I think we might.

[DeepModem Mom]

68. Could be, mobuto --

If so, we'll keep the secret, in the spirit of S&B!

[mobuto]

69. LOL

How many Jewish liberal women can there be in S&B? Unlike Seventhson, I wouldn't presume to know (or care).

[The Magistrate]

70. A Pleasure To See You About The Place, Mr. Mobutu!

How have you been, old friend?

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[mobuto]

72. The pleasure is all mine, Mr. Magistrate

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

I've been doing my best.

[The Magistrate]

85. That Is All That Be Expected Of Any, My Friend!

Good fortune to you in it!

It is always nice to run into one of the elders senior to me in the place...old lags are getting rare.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[bowens43]

30. Keep your fingers crossed!!!

Maybe your wish will come true.....

[Cooley Hurd]

65. Who has the tape, 7thson?

What network has it? The only statement that a tape exists has come from Drudge, and Alex (AND her mom and dad) has proven Drudge to be completely unreliable on this entire story. If a tape does indeed exist, then where is it and why hasn't the RW played it?:shrug:

[Raster]

13. it's time to get tough with muchrackers like sludge...

...tarring and feathering is too good

[Onlooker]

14. Now, the media should cover the real story

How did this crap make it into so many newspapers in the first place? The media should get their investigative journalists together and find out who planted these lies. Did any of the papers that printed the story ask Drudge anything about his sources? Was our press a party in corrupting the election? Will they continue to be a party in such anti-democratic methods?

[AZCat]

25. Ahh, but that's not their MO

At the most, they will print a retraction on page A14, buried between ads for insomnia.

Even more likely is that if this story is proven COMPLETELY false, Drudge/Rush/Freepers will continue to use it- as in "Kerry under assault all year by allegations of scandals" sort of crap.

I'm sick of it but I don't know of a good way to combat this. Any suggestions?

[Onlooker]

46. Well a few suggestions, but no great ones

Drudge has a tips box. We could flood it with protests to his sleaziness. I just told him I was deleting his bookmark because he's so unreliable.

Also, letters to the editor. A journalist friend of mine says the conservative tabloids get so few letters, they'll print almost anything. We should accuse the Repugs of lies and perjury.

Maybe we could invade freeperland and pose as extremely rabid right wingers in an effort to embarrass other right-wingers. Of course, the danger is they could do the same to us.

[AZCat]

48. I would like to stay above their level

One of the things I am worried about regarding this election is that some of us (including me) have VERY strong feelings about the BFEE. It is tempting to use the same tactics to attack him that the right has used for so long against us. But I think there have to be ways to tackle this without stooping to their level.

Your suggestions about emailing Drudge and the conservative tabloids are good- but I think we should stay above personal attacks. It might not prevent them from using this sort of stuff later, but I don't feel comfortable "feeding the cycle" of slander.

[BeyondGeography]

20. So much for THAT

He's even got her parents' votes!

HAH.

[Bucky]

22. This is a classy lady, but I'll bet this ain't over

I hate to sound negative, but I think we're not in the clear yet. The probing, unrelanting investigative powers of our 4th estate can kick into high gear when there's sex in the air. There's sex in the air. Expect deconstructions and follow up investigations to come along, chasing down such minutia as why her father thought Kerry once made a play for the girl, why she skeedaddled off to Nairobi, and what are the matters that make her off-the-record friend say "This is not going to go away. What actually happened is much nastier than is being reported."

This should end it, I agree. But my gut says it won't.

[belle]

38. Well, yeah, in that libel is much nastier than adultery...

As far as it "not going to go away"--well, again, yeah, as long as people like Drudge keep shamelessly making shit up. Sigh.

[dax]

39. The story is not about sex ...

Instead of obsessing over the possibility that something might surface to refute the two PRINCIPLES, focus on the opportunity we now HAVE to expose ROve, Drudge and COmpany for the disgusting dirty tricks they have ALWAYS engaged in...her father is like any father is like my father or yourself if you have a daughter that was nothing-I have known few fathers who don't suspect sleazeballs in the air whenever an older man just talks to their daughter. If she was not in journalism (thank goodness) and her integrity was not an issue, she may well have been bought with threats and money or both to back the story up-like Jesica Lynch she has a shred of integrity and decided to use it. Her so-called "friend-you don't know what they offered or thereatened her with-you have to get real-the Machine will kill people as easily as threaten, destroy or reward-each person who gets into the web has to have a lot of guts to tell the truth-look at the poor commander and the AWOL story-now he says he has alzeimers and maybe he was wrong when he told the truth four years ago to a reporter (presumably he didn't have alzeimer's then!)Don't play the doubt game or they win- justifiable OUTRAGE is more like it on how the Machine could destroy the young woman's honeymoon trip with her man and impinge on her family and probably piss off Kerry's wife Theresa as well-even when its not true it is an insult to have the world consider the possibility it is hideous what they have done in an attempt to destabilize, smear discredit-don't fall for it or you are just a scmuck

[ldf]

118. and probably piss off Kerry's wife .......

maybe THAT was the point, or at least one of the points. they probably wanted to piss HER off, so she wouldn't put all that money behind kerry. plant a seed of doubt.

and if they got away with the whole smear, so much the better.

[diplomats]

40. Read the statement from her parents

It contradicts what was quoted in the Sun. They have high praise for Kerry.

[Maeve]

44. What a lovely "friend"!

Of the Linda Tripp variety, no doubt...no, "off-the-record", so she may not even KNOW the woman.

[Danieljay]

71. why would you believe her "off the record friend"?

sounds like a rumor mill to me. This is my first response to this story and as much as I want Kucinich as my president..I'm glad to see that this turned out to be a fraud, at least for now.

[amandabeech]

76. I'm 90% relieved by today's statements, but

I would be happier if her parents had included in their statement a specific denial that they never talked to the "Sun" or that all previous statements attributed to them were false.


Amanda

[DerekGD]

24. Thanks General Clark

For sucking these scum buckets in and making them look like the fools they are.


Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho

Hee Hee Hee Hee Hee Hee

[bucknaked]

27. Listen to a delayed broadcast of Rush right now.

His first hour, which started before the latest news, he's gleefully telling of all the overseas reports and talking about how it's all going to come out.

Can't wait to hear the dispair in his voice when he finds out the latest!

[salin]

106. He won't retract anything he has said... though he might just drop

the story and stop talking about it. Or he might keep up the innuendo even though it is disproven - Rush never has been big on needing anything to be factual to say it.

[brentspeak]

112. Innanity is desperately trying to keep it alive

Says that "major media outlets are investigating further allegations that some of the key figures in the scandal have lied."

Key figures like yourself, Sean?

brentspeak

[salin]

114. just trying to prove how inane

he is indeed...

[LiberalFighter]

125. Today he claimed the parents were Republicans

[JoFerret]

28. My hope is

that this story is proved to be a creation of the GOP and Rove and that it has now the great possibility of innoculating Kerry against future spurious and unimportant "scandals" - true or untrue - that may surface going forward.

[Trajan]

34. A little "cowpox" now ....

Inoculates against the "smallpox" later ...

Excellent point ...

[slappypan]

31. I think Drudge should be the one in hiding in Africa

He will never live this one down. Let's hope this is the end of his influence for all time.

[RoadRunner]

42. I'm sure Drudge will be apoligizing any minute now

he is soooooooo ethical after all.

[Solly Mack]

33. 2 things: 1. This should quash the rumor. 2. and number 2 isn't polite

Gawds, people..don't go off half-cocked over an "intern" story...

Who gives a flying fuck anyway if it had been true?

I watched for 8 years the type of people who got a chubby over someone frolicking with an intern. I watched in disgust as this country was torn apart because of rightwing hate. Didn't people learn anything during those 8 years?

America? There ARE bigger and BETTER issues than sex. Get your head out of your ass and fight the real fight!

[AngryAmish]

37. I told you so

[Zo Zig]

45. Pig Boy

Reading the AP story now. "Lets watch the media report this statement, but has not reported the orginal story. Thus help liberals, but go after AWOL."
"AP will plaster the denial all over the place."
Thus its the liberal media fault.
Caller now asking if this is a Rove plan, brought up the Kerry doctored pic, "no evidence of Rove." Pig Boy is flaming out on this one. "If Rove and the WH are behind this then the media will be all over this, the liberal media will go after this. No evidence of the WH, roots are in the Democratic party." LOL Pig Boy your shit is weak.

[emulatorloo]

50. Win-Win strategy for the "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" - page 3

"liberal bias" when thier lies aren't picked up.

Franken re Fox News Washington Times, New York Post, Editorial pages of WSJ,Talk Radio:

"The members of the right-wing media . . .employ a tried-and-true methodology. First, they concoct an inflammatory story that serves their political goals. . .They repeat it. . .They embellish it. . .They try to push it into the mainstream media. All too often they suceed. . .Occasionally, they fail. . .But even thier failures serve their agenda, as evidence of liberal bias. Win-win. You got to admit. It's a good racket."

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

47. Would anyone here seriously use The Star for anything other than

killing spiders in the bathroom? Cat droppings, perhaps?

[samsingh]

49. Kerry's personal life is his own business

period.

but i'm happy that this rumor was untrue.

[dand]

52. Wonderful news......

Slimy Matt Drudge can crawl back under his rock.

[riskpeace]

56. E-mail Aaron Brown at CNN

Please ask Aaron Brown to follow up and report that the story he gave two segments to, including a panel, was made up. Go to http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?13 and ask him if he considers the story "debunked." See if his tireless investigative work has uncovered the real source of this slime.

[joycep]

105. I did it.

n/t

[w4rma]

57. Awesome! And that is that. (n/t)

[Shadder]

58. New at Drudge - LOOK AT THIS

This is the top headline at Drudge right now...

A woman at the center of John Kerry intrigue dated longtime Kerry fundraiser Peter Maroney, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT...

Guess if the first attempt did not stick, try again.

[Kinkistyle]

121. I see she had "intent" of having "affair-related activities" with Kerry

Which is of course ample evidence for going after Kerry with mudslings loaded.

[bluedog]

59. datedd Peter Maroney

A woman at the center of John Kerry intrigue dated longtime Kerry fundraiser Peter Maroney, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT...

[bmbmd]

60. Now he's saying that she was actually dating

Kerry's finance chairman. Just an honest mistake. In the words of Emily Littela,"Never mind".

[Screaming Lord Byron]

61. George Bush is a fascist.

Sorry, I mean to say, George Bush is the elected President of the United States. An honest mistake.

[5thGenDemocrat]

66. Aw, you're only saying that because

Drudge SAID Dopey is the elected President of the United States. And the press, of course, runs with it.
John
Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see. Especially not in Saginaw, Michigan.

[RainDog]

103. I heard that Bush knocked up some girl

that's what I heard Peter Griffin tell his neighbor, and they were both on tv..of course, they're cartoon characters, but...

...does that count as good enough for a Drudge rumor?

[ignatius]

63. I am really glad to read this. I have been so worried that I could

not sleep last night, and boy am I a bitch this morning.

The though of 4 more years of the BFEE makes my blood run cold and my mind run non stop.

I am glad she has spoken about this and I am so sick and tired of the fillthy and disgusting way Rove and co. operate.

Honor and integrity, my ass.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

64. DAMN YOU KERRY!

Can't he like grab someone's ass or something? They're running out of moronic ideas.

[et in Arcadia ego...]

67. And these are the people who want to plaster the freakin'

Ten Commandments everywhere. Obviously they view said Commandments as a joke. Fabricating a story of adultery to steal an election has to violate at least 3 of the 10. What desperate pathetic f*cks they are. :nopity:

[fearnobush]

73. AP release: Statement From Woman About Sen. Kerry

Statement From Woman About Sen. Kerry

Monday February 16, 2004 6:16 PM


By The Associated Press

A statement released Monday by Alexandra Polier, who has been the subject of rumors linking her to Sen. John Kerry:

``For the last several days I have seen Internet and tabloid rumors relating to me and Senator John Kerry. Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them. I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false. Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me, but should know the pain they have caused me and my family. I am in Kenya with my fiance visiting his family, and we ask that the press respect our privacy and leave all of us alone.''

A statement by Terry and Donna Polier, the parents of Alexandra Polier:

``We have spoken to our daughter and the allegations that have been made regarding her are completely false and unsubstantiated. We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family. We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States.''

<http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3754833,00.html>

[Beetwasher]

74. Does this Effectively NEUTRALIZE Drudge?

I hope Polier sues him. Now THAT would be the kicker!

[Onlooker]

78. I wonder if the British tabloids can be sued

Britain seems to have pretty strict slander and libel laws. I bet if they were sued it would be a story covered by the American media.

[Merlin]

80. I'm wondering that too. Does Kerry have status to sue in Britain?

Any Brits know if a non-citizen can bring a slander suit?

[DoYouEverWonder]

99. Apparently, remember the Richard Perle lawsuit?

See post below.

[kskiska]

88. Even Liberace won a slander suit over there

A gossip columnist hinted he might be gay. Liberace sued and won. That's why he could never admit to it for the rest of his life.

[DoYouEverWonder]

98. Perle wanted to sue Seymour Hersh in England

I can't see why we can't turn the tables and sue Murdock & Co. in the US for running this baseless slander?

[0rganism]

92. Polier should sue Drudge in Illinois

(740 ILCS 145/1) (from Ch. 126, par. 1)     Sec. 1. That if any 
person shall falsely use, utter or publish words, which in their 
common acceptance, shall amount to charge any person with having been 
guilty of fornication or adultery, such words so spoken shall be 
deemed actionable, and he shall be deemed guilty of slander. 
(Source: R.S. 1874, p. 992.) 

She could bring down the Drudge shitmachine, permanently.

[Manix]

77. Great, but this is just the beginning, expect more from the BushCo

slime machine as they don't care about truth. Just putting
it out there is the goal.

[Merlin]

79. Slimeball Drudge, you have just stepped on your own john thomas.

Oh, Matt! Can you say "FINISHED" ?

You have just experienced your last day in the sun as an even mildly credible yellow journalist.

[DoYouEverWonder]

81. I think Drudge just did an Al Franken

to the Kerry Campaign! Time to Celebrate!

[Catherine Vincent]

82. Glad to hear that.

I was very disappointed in C-Span when they took calls on this topic last friday. They referred to the drudgereport. I sort of lost respect for them because of that.

[praxiz]

83. Hahah, you won't believe this.

I see form other conservative forums that the general impression of this is: "So? Just because she says so doesn't make it true."

[Merlin]

84. Next thing, the Republicans will want Ken Starr to look into this. :-) n/t

.

[Merlin]

86. Hats off to Kerry. His handling of this has been a real class act.

No grousing. Low key. Simple, clear denial. Good job, John Kerry.

[progressiverealist]

87. the fact that Rove used Drudge to put this out...

should have told us everything we needed to know. If Rove has really "good stuff" he is NOT going to use Drudge. He will use Faux or MSRNC for the initial reports.

[Name removed]

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[The Magistrate]

91. In The Words Of My Friend, Mr. Forkboy....

Must...Keep...Story...Alive...

"And, in other news: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead...."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[DoYouEverWonder]

93. You're beating a dead horse

give it up. That dog don't hunt no more.

[nibbana]

94. FREEPERS need more mileage

The FREEPS got what they wanted out of this thread...It was like sex for them....

[salin]

107. First - I don't see any new questions

for me it has the complete opposite effect.

Second, the press had the awol story for three years and, but for a few, did nothing with it. Hardly pressing the issue. Indeed - the odd thing with the AWOL story - is how it got kicked back up... Michael Moore makes a statement that seems hyperbolic and "offends" the right... in a televised debate the moderator tries to tag Moore's statement to General Clark (solely because Moore supported Clark) - and force Clark to say something. The question was asked in a way to try to ridicule Clark (and hit the "crazy bush haters" theme for the gop) ... and is immediately (by repubs) decried... then suddenly the press starts talking about the story (low rumble)... then the story itself takes off itself - because there really was a story (that the press had had for three years...) The whole episode raises a bunch of questions - many of them about the press itself.

[Kinkistyle]

122. For example?

Care to provide a question that must be answered before we can write this off as a dirty attempt to defame Kerry?

[Walt Starr]

95. That's what I needed

Excellent, this helps Kerry hugely!

[DoYouEverWonder]

96. Yep,

edit: never mind. Didn't mean to repeat myself.

[BonjourUSA]

97. Excuse my question, but...

As citizens, do you need to watch through the keyholes for evaluating the capabilities of someone to be a good president ?

[Habibi]

111. Well, *we* don't

but Republicans do. As long as the keyholes peep only into Democrats' bedrooms.

[Piperay]

100. TERRIFIC news

proves the repuke are liars once again.

[rocktivity]

101. Did she have anything to say about the interview she gave in December?

And shouldn't her parents offer an apology for calling Kerry a sleazebag?


rocknation

[demgrrrll]

102. Is anyone entertaining the thought that Kerry somehow allowed himself

to be thrown into the brier patch? There is a part of
me that feels that Rove may have just had a taste of
his own medicine. Think about it. First the big story in the Enquirer
about Kerry's dating when he was single, I think that was the set up. Now this story which they apparently thought would snow ball with the other tabloid reporting. They are now holding a big bag of nothing.
I find it hard to believe that they would have gone to this much
trouble if they knew this outcome was a possibility.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

109. Maybe they're not as omnipotent as we think

I'm starting to think the Emperor may well have no clothes, or if you prefer, it's a rotten door and a few good kicks will take it down.

[monchie]

119. If such an interview actually exists...

her statement today gives the TV network an instant green light to air it.

Previously, it was allegedly withheld because the news execs didn't believe it. But now that there's allegedly a difference between her statement today and her alleged interview at Christmas time, they can air it asking the question, "Did she lie in December or did she lie in February?" The longer we go with no mention of the alleged TV interview, the more likely it doesn't actually exist--and never did.

My gut feeling is that: a) the interview doesn't exist...that part of the story was completely fabricated; b) the original statements of the parents were completely fabricated; c) General Clark's alleged statement is a wild misrepresentation of something he actually said; and d) Chris Lehane's alleged involvement in spreading the rumor is another wild misrepresentation concocted to take the heat away from the real slime spreaders: The GOP Smear Machine.

[yellowcanine]

127. Both the "interview" and the "sleazebag" stories were British tabloid, no?

By definition, not anything likely to have actually occured.

[meti57b]

108. It's great news! Looks like we have a solid candidate! Onward to November!

[Nancy Waterman]

115. I think McAuliffe and some other Dem bigwigs

ought to go on TV and point out the GOP MO in this. It needs to be clearly spelled out with examples from the past as well.

Talking points:

Bush has a history of using untrue stories to smear an opponent's character. The plan is for the malicious slander to do damage even though the story is eventually disproven.

This happened in South Carolina with Senator John McCain (give some details).

This happened again with a malicious rumor planned to discredit Senator Kerry and malign his character (Minimal details so as not to push the story).

We can expect them to try it again, by planting another untrue story on Drudge and have Limbough spread it, etc.

[BigBigBear]

113. Gadzooks

The FreeperSheep are redlining over this - talking about vote buying, parsed definitions of sex and what portion of the ketchup fortune young Alexa now lays claim to. I particularly like the guy who insists that it's up to Kerry to PROVE he didn't have an affair with a women who already says categorically he didn't.

(I wonder if it's up to Bush to PROVE he didn't drive Robin Lowman to an abortion clinic.)

They should stick to their meds. They're making a gooey mess of those nice white pajamas.

[wabeewoman]

124. I've gotten pretty familar with their MO

from my freeper brother. He can change the subject so fast it makes your head spin. Give him any information that disproves his point of view(actually Rush's and O'Reilly's as he doesn't think for himself)and he twists it into something else or moves on to another topic. All he can say about O'Reilly appologizing is that O'Reilly is reserving the right to take back his appology when WMD are found. They sure are a piece of work and about as intelligent as bush.

[yellowcanine]

116. Drudge has an "orphan " story now and he is tap dancing

What is Drudge to do? Now that his "exclusive" is a big fat turd he is trying somehow to justify his shitty "reporting". So he latches on to the notion that Kerry's aide was dating this woman and that she was kind of a flirt and may have talked loosely. So now it's going to be her fault that he lied about her.

[onehandle]

117. Good. Back to airing Bush's dirty laundry...

Where to start, where to start...

I knew this was nothing. Wes obviously knew too.

[johnfunk]

120. PUNK'D!

My own two denarii: I wouldn't be surprised if cybersmearmeister Matt Drudge, RNC Chair Ed Gillespie, Karl "Röverer" Rove and all the credulous FReepers got PUNK'D by a very clever team made up of players from the Kerry campaign and a Clarkie or two, as both candidates have been the target of GOP trawling campaigns -- and I for one wouldn't be surprised if a certain AP reporter and her family were in on the plan. The goal: to expose a major out-of-tune pipe in the Mighty Smirk Wurlitzer -- and to shake a few fascist "elves" in the so-called liberal media out of the "shrub."

After all, the best way to fight a smear is to expose it as a flasehood -- so you can smear it all over the messengers.

By the way, it's time to send a dozen roses -- on second thought make that a dozen grade A eggs -- to Matt Drudge on hitting the Trifecta!

1) Sidney Blumenthal Beats His Wife... er.. Never Should've Listened to John Fund
2) Clinton Love Child Exposed.. uh... Never Mind
3) John Kerry's Affair With an Intern... um... Hold It... Developing Soft... Make That an AP Reporter.. er... uh... aw sh!t...

[Qutzupalotl]

123. CNN link

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/17/elec04.prez.main.intl/index.html

11 hours old :P

[74dodgedart]

126. Clark Comment

Apparently Drudge's story is based on an off-the-record (and probably tongue-in-cheek) comment by Clark refering to a National Enquirer headline

http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk7.htm

"This guy is going to blow up. Have you seen the NATIONAL ENQUIRER story"

Drudge is a joke

[grok]

128. Too many denials

I do wish that she would STOP denying it to whatever reporter shows up at her doorstep. Ive read at least 6 different *unique* denials already in different media. It keeps it in the news too long. Not necessarily good since monica denied alot too.

One denial would have been enough. I wish the reporters would stop chasing her.


Grok