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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:24 PM
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2/15 -- TANG MD Recalls Treating Bush -- new details
Be sure to read the whole thing for some new details to parse.

Montgomery Advertiser -- February 15 2004

A retired Air National Guard physician recalls giving President Bush a physical in 1972, his son said Saturday, adding another memory to the small but growing pool of recollections of Bush's military service in Montgomery.

The memories of Bush's service contradict a dearth of paperwork surrounding his time assigned to the Alabama Air National Guard, but a retired Air National Guard personnel officer said the lack of records could very well be the result of shoddy record-keeping, as opposed to deliquence on Bush's part.

James Anderson was a physician for the Montgomery-based 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group. His son, Montgomery physician Noble Anderson, said his father performed a routine examination on Bush at Dannelly Air National Guard base in 1972.

Noble Anderson said his 64-year-old father had directed media inquiries to him because of his age, and because he did not want to be inundated with calls from the press. The military doctor says that Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun brought Bush by his office for an exam, Noble Anderson said.

James Anderson could not remember which month he saw Bush, only that it was some time in 1972, his son said.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWS/StoryLocalbush15w.htm


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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:25 PM
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1. so a man only four years older than George....
.....can't speak to the press "because of his age" and his son speaks for him?

And this 64-year-old man is a friend of Bill Calhoun's??

Come on! Come on!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:26 PM
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3. so.......if Bush DID get an exam...
...then WHY was he grounded for failing to get one???????????
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:37 PM
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8. and if he did get a
medical examination - as required - why did he not fight the grounding and supply them with the good doctor's name?

yeah, right - this is just more lies and crap -

they prepared everyone for this with the "shoddy records" story this morning.

:puke:
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:51 PM
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15. He could've fixed the grounding any time...
by just taking the Exam. If that was all there was to it.

Very probably the flight exam requires a certified flight surgeon. This doctor may not have that certification, or may have performed some different exam.

Overall, not much information here.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:02 PM
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18. Consider this:

The work of an interceptor pilot is not all glory and roses. It is a very technical job, with having to know all the aircraft systems, along with the armament, as well as the flying skills.

Bush has shown time after time that he has a very short attention span and gets bored easily. After what, two years(?) of training and classroom work I would guess that he was beyond his ability to keep interested in what he was doing. Besides that, it's hard work, and he never did like work.

Plus the fact that the coward probably was afraid of flying.
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:41 PM
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24. Are you kidding????

For a person with ADD, fighter pilot is a dream job. It's high stimulus, it's cool, and doubtless it got him laid ALOT!!!!

Why would he voluntarily give that up??? Why would his buddy James Bath give that up????

Hmmm, to friends were suspended at the same time after delivering "exotic plants" from Florida. HHMMMMMMMM........


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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:38 PM
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23. If he DID get one ...

Why did he claim he COULDN'T get one because he was in Alabama and he couldn't see his family doctor :shrug:

If he got one, why didn't he JUST SAY, I GOT ONE.

BTW, Bush was grounded SIX MONTHS before he got to Alabama.

Maybe Bush had some Venereal disease that needed tending to but wasn't an official flight phsyical :shrug:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:39 PM
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9. Confinement physical for an arrest?
not a flight physical.
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Womblestuffer Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:42 PM
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11. Hearsay, not credible
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:57 PM
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29. Or admitable in a court of law
I expect we'll be getting a lot of hearsay evidence while * tries to tap-dance his way out of this. It's important to cross-check facts: is what is being claimed consistent with other statements and evidence?

They're terrified *'s cocaine usage is going to surface -- the Press Secretary just about sh*t when Helen Thomas asked whether * had used drugs, and is that was why he was grounded. He gave a flustered non-answer. "That's the kind of political question I won't dignify with an answer," or something like that. The one thing he didn't do was say "yes" or "no".
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 09:46 PM
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30. Especially when bush stated that...
he didn't need to take the physical since he wasn't going to fly anymore
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:31 PM
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5. If Bu$hie was
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 09:33 PM by burrowowl
20, the Doc 27, the Doc was doing intern training, maybe. Or gifted doc graduated when he was 22.
Oh wait, Bu$h was 26 or so! Wow! pretty old for getting in. He avoided the draft for several years!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:26 PM
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2. old - dad was there - but dad says nothing - son is GOP
need a little more than this.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:30 PM
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4. I thought bush* said he didn't take a physical because
his family physician wasn't available?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:33 PM
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6. Folks we are not going to win this
Karl Rove's elves continue to dig, dig, dig...

Understand that everything here is stacked against us with this story. Even if the facts are on our side, it does not matter. Karl Rove's people will "produce" wahtever people need to be produced, "unveil" whatever documents need to be unveiled and they will sabatoge any person who dares to contradict their accounts. The control all the machinery of the federal government and they have a lot of allies in the corporate media to do this for them.

It's all fine and good to draw a contrast with Kerry's record, and we have done that, but they hold all the chips that count as for how the story is spun.
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:56 PM
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16. We already won a bunch of points...
Who would've thunk when M. Moore made that Deserter comment that this would have gone as far as it has.

It's likely winding down, there's no proof * was in 'Bama, but the whole world knows he got special treatment and quit flyng for mysterious reasons.

We just have to break the cult of personality.

ON TO THE BUSINESS CAREER!
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:56 PM
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26. Oooh yes!
If people thought that AWOL was bad...
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:57 PM
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17. Rove can do whatever he wants. The word is out there.

From now on bush and awol will be associated in the minds of many, and that's exactly what we want. We have to prove nothing. Enough people now know about it that it will make a difference.
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:03 PM
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19. You have much to learn.
People never vote facts. Its the aroma. The Bush boy is beginning to stink. There ain't no soap to wash that smell away. He is a loser. He is a dirty no count. We had you for four years, now be gone.
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:46 PM
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25. Not this time ...

This time they are starting to lie their asses off. Last time, it came out right before the election and the press got distracted. They were too busy making Gore out to be a serial liar.

Nope, there is blood in the water. This issue can DEFINITELY sell newspapers. The discipline breaks down when there is a threat of being scooped.

Nope, the press has picked it up and they are running with it now. The Kerry/intern story is evidence that they are trying to turn the press to a MORE scandalous story. It will end up being just like the "trashing the white house" story.

The election is a referendum on Bush. Plain and simple. This concerns Bush. It concerns veterans. The man has stop loss order out on guardsmen in Iraq. Yet he couldn't even finish his sweetheart assignment stateside. It is hypocrisy at it's finest.





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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:57 PM
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27. Right. Keep believing that, while the rest of us walk away smiling.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:33 PM
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7. PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS!!!!!
the military doesn't do anything without documents!!!

Cough 'em up, georgie. Are they in the pile of crap you already gave us? NO? Then where are they? You said you released EVERYTHING!!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:41 PM
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10. Yeah. Everything....
including the medical records. Remember the medical records that the press only got to see for 20 min. apiece? If records of this physicalo existed, you can be damned sure they would have come out by now. The bushies have been waving around everything vaguely supportive of Shrub, so why not these records?
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:43 PM
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12. Stir that Pot,
Keep it HOT. When you cook BS,everyone flees the kitchen.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:48 PM
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13. Christ Kerry is 60 and he' running for president
but this 64 yesr old can't speak for himself on a relatively easy issue?
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 09:49 PM
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14. So when does a Lt need to be escorted to a pyshical by a Lt Col?
doesn't add up. Unless he was being escorted for good reason, such as the Lt Col was there to make sure he got a physical as order.

And why wasn't he placed back on flying status after completion?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:04 PM
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20. question for the WH
Did Major James Bath accompany Lt. George Bush to his medical exam with Dr. Anderson?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:08 PM
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21. Why are the people here, spreading this shit?
Any answers?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 11:07 PM
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28. I don't understand your question
Are you saying that DU-ers should not be reporting what the other side is claiming about Bush?

If so, you're wrong (respectfully).

We have to watch this bunch of liars constantly.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 10:11 PM
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22. I've been wondering...
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 10:11 PM by deseo
.... how much longer it would take for various people to come out of the woodwork and claim they saw waldo. Maybe they did, maybe not.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:03 PM
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31. Why is Dannelly website inactive?
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