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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:42 AM
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oops, Nader's doing it again
Nader, a citizen activist who has always had a stubborn, contrarian streak, is equally determined to exercise his right to run and to make issues such as anti-corporate power and universal health care central campaign themes.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/7950408.htm


Nader, in an interview Feb. 4 on National Public Radio, responded with irritation to the effort to stop him: "It's a marvelous demonstration by liberals, if you will, of censorship. Now mind you, running for political office is every American's right. Running for political office means free-speech exercise; it means exercising the right of petition, the right of assembly. ... To say `Do not run' to anybody is to say, `Do not speak. Do not petition. Do not assemble. Remain silent.' That's just unacceptable, especially coming from people like the editors of The Nation."


does he want bush to win?
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UnAmericanJoe Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:45 AM
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1. Sorry
But I can't agree.
He's got every right to run.

And we've got every right NOT to vote for him.

He won't be a factor this time around anyway so it's pointless to get our panties all bunched up about it. (MO anyway)
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:47 AM
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3. I agree
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 03:48 AM by wuushew
I have no objection to him running, but his past rhetoric has hurt progressive causes with people that lack all the facts.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:47 AM
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2. But, He Is Right! Kerry Will Never Take On The Special Interests.
If Kucinich were the nominee things would be quite different.

Nader wants change, the party and most Americans are afraid of change.
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:55 AM
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7. how about nader/kucinich
-not ready yet
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:04 AM
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9. Nader wants the kind of change that results in people like Junior...
...taking control and cash in his pocket.

Nader couldn't care less about REAL change...he sold out to the corporate interests he claims to be protesting against quite a while ago.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:50 AM
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4. ''''If you will" being the operative word
Admit defeat, Nadir, you will lose badly.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:52 AM
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5. He's not going to be getting much support this time around
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 03:53 AM by 0rganism
For one thing, the idea that "there's not a dime's worth of difference" between Gore and bush has been thoroughly shredded. He's not making any friends when he accuses his potential allies of censorship, either.

The Greens are quite concerned about W, and I think I speak for many when I say "we have heap big voter's remorse." Nader is a non-issue this time, 0.3% at most.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 03:55 AM
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6. He's so arrogant
If he really cared about this country he would stay out of the presidential race. It's partially his fault that we are saddled with Shrub. If he had stayed out of it Al Gore would be sitting in the White House.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:00 AM
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8. Why doesn't Nader use his clout to run for something he
might actually win...

CA attorney General maybe? Congressman? Senator?

That would help the Greens more than another Quixote run at the White House.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:35 AM
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11. Exactly
But he's too good for that (question mark).

Funny that a guy a lot of us would like, has to again toy with us as a wannabe (and he knows it) spoiler. Are you liberal enough to be for Nader? Make no mistake, this has turned into the have you stopped beating your wife litmus test. I must know some 20 people who, like me, sent impassioned "do not run" letters to this guy.

I agree, that it's not a big deal, or so I hope, like 2000. ARG! Come to think of it, no I don't think that. Any vote swayed is baaaaad!

What is the point? To get matching funds? That used to be the story. Mr. Nader, we can get you that money--don't run. But wait, he's got money.... not it.

What is the point? To get attention for <insert something here> issues? Mr. Nader, democrats are doing that--did we miss something, speak up? Is there some subtlety we democrats missed or compromised for the sake of inclusion (God forbid) worth the destruction of four more years? No there isn't, but you sure make it sound like you are excluded.

Do we have to sacrifice something, basically the planet, humanity, democracy and America, to get off of the two party system? Ah, now we get to the real tofu. That's it, isn't it? Any sacrifice will, in the long run, cure our democracy if we bring more than two parties to the table. More viewpoints.

Fine, sounds good. What if there is no freaking table. What if there are no two parties. What if we just have some fascism masquerading as democracy? Have you thought of that Mr. Nader? Have you thought long and hard?

How about, not now? How about some baby steps?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:11 AM
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10. if he runs as a Green, he'll set their cause back years . . .
rather than getting enough votes to get on more ballots in future elections, his totals will be a small fraction of what they were in 2000 . . . because no one in their right mind will risk helping Bush win by voting for Nader in 2004 . . .
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Wonco_the_Sane Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 04:48 AM
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12. Calling Ross Perot
How do we get someone to suck some votes from the right now?

It worked to get Clinton in office! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Man I miss Bill. I think Nader will be embarrassed however. Please lets just get Bush* out first. Nader for California Governor would be nice too.

ABB
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 05:03 AM
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13. LBN Rules... locking
The Rules of the Latest Breaking News Forum require the user to use the published title of an article in their subject line.

In this case, the subject line should read "Nader expected to launch new bid for White House."

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