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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:31 PM
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The White House Press Conference is starting
www.whitehouse.gov I'm not sure if this is permissable here. Sorry if wrong
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:39 PM
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1. Go Helen!!!
She was in fine form yesterday. She is a true hero standing up to that crap when she could be enjoying retirement.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:44 PM
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2. Have you read this
happened before the press conference started

www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:28 PM
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6. Whoa! Great link!
(second article down today)

Helen really gives it to Scott without letting up.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:41 PM
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7. Community service
Thanks Helen and Bill. Now you have a great question out there for everyone to keep asking.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:49 PM
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3. Is Bush taking questions, or is he hiding somwhere again?
???
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:54 PM
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4. Notice the new talking point
'the president is busy doing the people's business." Isn't that a direct steal from Clinton. So he is going to try to avoid his numerous scandals by keeping 'focused on the people's business?' Give me a break!
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Papa Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:25 PM
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5. Everyone at DU should read this
www.talkingpointsmemo.com

read the exchange between Helen Thomas and Scott McClellan.

She asks him a question if Bush served community service while he was in the Guard and he refused to answer the question. In fact he questions her why she wants to know... Great reading. They are hiding something huge.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:42 PM
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8. Something huge....
...and we have a pretty good idea what it is.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:21 PM
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16. What?
The coke thing? :shrug:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:41 PM
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18. bush is going to have to explain why
he was doing community service in Texas P.U.L.L.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:42 PM
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9. Squirm!
God that left a mark.

Bet he needed a Valium after that interview.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:09 PM
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12. Tell him to borrow Oxycontin from Limbaugh
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:09 PM
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13. I wonder how long before . . .
. . . he just throws his hands up and retires like Ari the Weasel did.

Gawd, that was a priceless exchange between Helen and Scott. I just love that woman!



TYY
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 06:55 PM
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19. Helen Rocks. She autographed my book copy of the Constitution. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:46 PM
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10. Interesting Transcript - seems Nat'l Guard Records may not be released!
John Roberts gets a medal for today!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040213-4.html

Q Can I ask you a question, Scott? I just want to be absolutely clear on something here. The records that you released earlier this week on the President's Guard service state that he did not perform any Guard service in the third quarter of 1972. That's correct?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, you have the records in front of you, and they state the dates on which he was paid. And you are paid for the days on which you serve.

Q So they state that between April 16th of 1972 and October 28th of 1972 he did no Guard duty.

MR. McCLELLAN: We've been through these issues, John, and we've provided you with the documents that show his service.

Q And do you believe that's correct, that he did no duty between April 16th and October 28th?

MR. McCLELLAN: John, I don't know why we need to go through this again. This issue we've been through earlier this week.

Q Well, the reason I bring up the question is that John Calhoun, who claims he was the person in charge of making sure that President Bush reported for duty at the 187th Tactical Recon Group, says that he saw the President several times on the base between May and October of 1972, yet there is no record of him being there, in terms of what you released earlier this week.

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't speak for him. You would have to talk to Mr. Calhoun. I do not know him.

Q We did talk to Mr. Calhoun, and Mr. Calhoun said that he saw the President several times between May and October of 1972.

MR. McCLELLAN: And like I've said --

Q So I was just wondering, can you explain that discrepancy?

MR. McCLELLAN: And like I've said, the President doesn't recall the specific dates on which he performed his duties. He does remember serving both in Alabama and in Texas. During that entire period, he was a member of the Texas Air National Guard.

Q But the records that you released do recall quite specifically the days that the President served on. There's no record of his being there --

MR. McCLELLAN: Actually, these are National Guard records that document the President did serve during that time period. And that was an issue that was raised earlier this week.

Q Right. But the records clearly recall that he did no Guard duty between April 16th and October 28th. Yet, Mr. Calhoun says he saw him on the base at the 187th between May and October of '72. So there's a discrepancy here. I'm wondering if you can explain it?

MR. McCLELLAN: John, again, we've provided you with the records and the facts are in the records that we have.

Q A good point. Could the records be incomplete?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q Could the records be incomplete?

MR. McCLELLAN: Direct that question to the National Guard. These are the personnel records that we've received.

Q Scott, have you been through the entire personnel file now? And have you released everything you're going to release?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, like I said, that if there is additional information that comes to our attention that is relevant to the issue, we will certainly provide you with that information. That's a commitment that we've made.

Q But have you seen the entire file? That sounds like a reasonable question.

MR. McCLELLAN: Have I seen the entire file? I don't know the answer to that question at this point, because there is a possibility -- we have expected to receive additional documents from the National Guard. I think we just very recently received some additional documents, but I'm not sure if any of those documents are new. We're going to take a look at those. We'll take a look at those, and if there's new information relevant to the issue, then we will certainly provide you with that information.

Q Saturday, during the taping of the Tim Russert program, "Meet the Press," the President said something at the end -- many thought it was a very confident statement, at the least -- that he would not lose this election. That was Saturday. At 12:35 p.m. today, Friday, does he still feel that same way in the midst of all of this controversy, polls showing that he's at his lowest rating ever?

MR. McCLELLAN: Absolutely. You know, one, that's not something that he pays great attention to. What he's focused on is the decisions that we are making on behalf of the American people. And the decisions that the President is making are the right decisions for the American people. They are decisions that are making our country more secure and more prosperous and they are decisions that are leading to a safer and better world.

Q But a follow up. Apparently, he does feel that this is a problem, the AWOL story, the alleged AWOL story, and some of the other --

MR. McCLELLAN: Which has now been documented to be false.

Q Well, there are still some discrepancies. But apparently he's fighting these stories, so that's saying that the President realizes there is a problem for this campaign, correct?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry? That there is --

Q I made my point clear.

MR. McCLELLAN: That may be your interpretation. This President is confident that the decisions that we are making are the right policies for the American people, and he is confident that the American people are supportive of the decisions that we are making.

Q Putting out paper, you're giving out paper --

MR. McCLELLAN: Look, April --

Q -- you're directing us to The Boston Globe article --

MR. McCLELLAN: Let me finish the question there that you asked. There is going to be plenty of time to talk about the campaign. Right now this President is going to remain focused on the great challenges that we are working to meet. And we are meeting them in a number of different ways, but there is more to do.

But this President is acting decisively to make America more secure, to make America more prosperous, to make America a more compassionate place. And he's acting to make the world a safer and better place.

Q Well, then why would you give us this information, then, if he's not worried about it?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q Why would you give us this information, direct us to The Boston Globe story today? Why would you give us --

MR. McCLELLAN: Why would you ask those questions?

Q A follow up on that. You mentioned the campaign. The Bush-Cheney campaign has released its first campaign ad -- albeit on the Internet. Does this mean now that the President's reelection campaign has officially begun? And does this also mean that he believes John Kerry will be his opponent?

MR. McCLELLAN: I think you need to direct those questions to the campaign. The White House and the President remain focused on the American people's priorities.

Q Scott, did the President authorize the campaign attack --

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, you can direct campaign questions to the campaign.

Q Scott, I'm asking about the President.

MR. McCLELLAN: If they're related to the campaign, you can direct those questions to the campaign. I'm sure that they'll be glad to get you those answers.

Q Do you think the campaign would have done that without authorization from the President?

MR. McCLELLAN: Mark, again, I said you can direct those questions to the campaign.

Q Aren't you all one? Aren't you --

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Papa Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 04:58 PM
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11. they are stonewalling big time
And the White House press core has finally gotten a backbone. Hope it lasts.

In days gone by, this was reported on tv as actual news.. I'm eating this stuff up, someone should be talking about the fireworks that's happening this week . The only person I have heard talking about these press conferences for this week, sadly,is Rush Limbaugh.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:12 PM
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14. Here's something I heard on DemocracyNow today
There is a hard copy file, it's called a military personal records jacket and when you are discharged and when it is committed to microfiche and then one is sent to Air Reserve in Denver and the other to St. Louis. I have a statement from Charles Peligreny that these have not been altered in any way and by the way it is a federal offense to change. If we could get that to the general public we would get to the heart of the matter.

Interview with James Moore about Bill Burkett
www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/13/1543213
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:13 PM
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15. The best quote from the press briefing...
<snip>
MR. McCLELLAN: We can agree to disagree on this issue, but I think it was very --

Q We're going to end up on the Daily Show again with this one.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- very clear about the context of the question.
<snip>

John Stewart rocks!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 05:39 PM
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17. Just keeping track of the stories
Bill Burkett - 163 goggle Bill Burkett George Bush

Bob Mintz - 4
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2834&onthefly=1

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_5108.shtml

CBS Nightly News

hppt://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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