Mumbai attack: 'British men among terrorists'

[Turborama]

Source: Daily Telegraph UK

By Jon Swaine
Last Updated: 1:14PM GMT 28 Nov 2008

Vilasrao Deshmukh, the chief minister of Mumbai, was reported to have said that two British-born Pakistanis were among eight gunmen seized by Indian commandos who stormed buildings to free hostages.

The Foreign Office said it was investigating reports on NDTV, a local television news channel, that the terrorists – who swarmed into luxury hotels and other tourist sites in the city – included "British citizens of Pakistani origin".

Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, said the Government had "no knowledge" of any British suspects.

"We will do anything we can to help Indian authorities through what is obviously a very difficult time," Miss Smith said. "We will do what is necessary. At the moment the priority is to support the immediate needs.

Earlier on Friday, Gordon Brown said he "would not want to be drawn into early conclusions" over the claims.

The Prime Minister called for international co-ordination to combat terrorism in the wake of the attacks, which he called "atrocious". He said: "We have got to look at how international action against terrorism can be improved."

"Obviously when you have terrorists operating in one country, they may be getting support from another country or coming from another country, and it is very important that we strengthen the co-operation between India and Britain in dealing with these instances of terrorist attacks," he told Sky News.

The Prime Minister's comments came as Indian commando troops cleared the last terrorists from buildings across Mumbai.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3533472/Mumbai-attack-British-men-among-terrorists.html

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Mumbai attacks: How young Britons are radicalised in Pakistan

Reports that some of the terrorists who attacked Mumbai were British has focused attention on the UK Muslims who receive military training at extremist madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan. In this report, filed three years ago, Telegraph correspondents expose how young Britons travel to al-Qaeda camps to learn how to destroy the West.

Read more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3533425/Mumbai-attacks-How-young-Britons-are-radicalised-in-Pakistan.html

[varun]

1. Pakistan connection

involved in London, Madrid, NY, Bali....

the epicenter of terrorism.

[ohio2007]

2. British-Born Pakistanis....to be precise.

British-born Pakistanis were among the Mumbai terrorists, Indian government sources claimed today, as the death toll rose to more than 140.

Two Britons were among eight gunmen captured by commandos after they stormed two hotels and a Jewish centre to free hostages, the city's chief minister said.

Vilasrao Deshmukh also revealed that up to 25 terrorists were responsible for the series of bomb blasts and shootings that targeted tourists and foreign interests.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1089711/Massacre-Mumbai-BRITISH-gunmen-seized-commando-raid-death-toll-hits-140.html

[Turborama]

5. British citizens who have Pakistani ancestry, to be exact...

If they were American citizens who's family originally came from Scotland, would you call them "American born Scots"? Or American citizens with Scottish Ancestry?


Edit: to fix typo

[AusDem]

4. and funded and armed by the US

for many, many years.....all because of India's non-alignment strategy, and cosyness with the Soviets. What a historical clusterf*ck

and now its painfully obvious that in fact the US and India have a lot more in common than just about any other country in the region, a massive english speaking, secular, functioning democracy with a free media and checks and a mostly tolerant society, taking hits in the midst of a region full of $hitholes/totalitarian regimes/oneparty states.

These attacks will no doubt push India to the right, and probably bring back the fundamentalist Hindu based party, the BJP, back into power.

[TheLastMohican]

8. Mostly tolerant society?

is it why in the recent news the indian boy was thrown under a train because he didn't belong to the right caste?

I would treat India with a lot of suspicion, it is not so black and white as everybody pretends.

[ohio2007]

3. How young Britons are radicalized in Pakistan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3533425/Mumbai-attacks-How-young-Britons-are-radicalised-in-Pakistan.html

You could say they've been 'schooled' but

that would be showing the usual un welcomed bias around here
:sarcasm:

sensitivity training in peaceful ways
minus all the unnecessary extra curricular activities like science,math, the decadent liberal arts etc

just the 3 R's
radicalized
religious
reasoning

[dipsydoodle]

6. That has now been offically dismissed

by the Indian government. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7754931.stm

[Festivito]

7. Indians have no evidence of British terrorists.

"..Indians have indicated that there is no evidence of British involvement."

Bad little rumor.

[ohio2007]

9. I can't see that worm growing legs

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3533425/Mumbai-attacks-How-young-Britons-are-radicalised-in-Pakistan.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. 'That worm'? What do you mean?

[Turborama]

14. Brown "refrained from straightforwardly denying reports of the involvement of two British Nationals"

I guess it's a wait and see thing. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, though, if it was true...

Brown anxious over Mumbai attacks

Zeenews Bureau

Mumbai, Nov 29: The recent terror attack in Mumbai has made UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown quite restless due to reports indicating British-born Pakistanis’ involvement in the horrible assault.

Commenting on the British link to Mumbai attacks, Brown assured that the investigation was ‘on’ and it was quite early to reach any conclusion. He, however, refrained from straightforwardly denying reports of the involvement of two British nationals in the attack.

The UK, the US’ closest ally in ‘war on terror’, has also sent a team of Scotland Yard detectives to India to assist the investigations into the attacks that left 160 people killed and at least 327 injured.

According to a news agency, Brown said on Friday that he had talked to the Indian PM "very recently" and expressed solidarity.

"At no point has the Prime Minister of India suggested to me that there is evidence at this stage of any terrorist of British origins," he said.

"But obviously there are huge investigations that are being done and I think it would be premature to draw any conclusions at all," Brown said.

http://www.zeenews.com/world/2008-11-29/487160news.html

[Acadia Blue]

10. This is fundamentallism. All fundamentalist religon breed insanity .

As horrible as this is, it may make the world cooperate better to weed these fruit cake religious nuts out.

[ohio2007]

11. Militants say they belong to Pakistan-based group ( WATER BOARDING ? )

NEW DELHI–Three of the militants who attacked India's financial capital have confessed they are members of the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba group, the Hindu newspaper reported today.

snip

Lashkar-e-Taiba denied yesterday it had any role in the attacks, which also targeted a popular cafe, a Jewish centre and the city's main railway. But Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said the assault was carried out by groups based outside India, usually an allusion to India's nuclear-armed neighbour Pakistan.

One of the militants was a resident of Faridkot in Pakistan's Punjab province, the Hindu newspaper said, citing unidentified police investigators.

snip


The Indian Express newspaper said the group left the Pakistani port city of Karachi by sea and transferred to two small boats or rubber dinghies off Mumbai.They were seen by several residents coming ashore but allayed suspicion by saying they were students, it said.

The Times of India said the attackers were aged between 18 and 25. Each was given "an AK-47 assault rifle with two magazines each, one pistol and eight to 10 grenades suspected to have manufactured at a Pakistan ordnance factory."
The equipment, training and sophistication of their planning would tend to indicate a Pakistani link," wrote strategic affairs analyst K. Subrahmanyam in the Times of India.

Lashkar-e-Taiba, along with another group, Jaish-e-Mohammed, made its name fighting Indian rule in disputed Kashmir, where state elections are underway.Both groups were closely linked in the past to the Pakistani military's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency, the ISI.

They were also blamed for an attack on India's parliament in 2001 which brought the two countries close to a fourth war since independence from Britain 60 years ago.

snip


http://www.thestar.com/article/544970

ISI ID them ?


They've been ratted out,Lee Harvey stone walled" . imo they should lawyer up and fast if they know whats good for them

:sarcasm:

[marshall]

13. Britain is breeding its own terrorists

There's a lesson to be learned there.

[seenitall151]

15. Religion of Peace?

The slaughter in Mombai makes the 12, 325th Islamist attack since 9/11,
with a death toll in the tens of thousands. Thats counting just the major attacks that the
major news outlets grudgingly have to report, and not the inumerable acts of Koran
inspired money, pride and honor killings.

For all those Islam-o-pologists out there, and the head buried in the sand crowd ,heres some facts to ponder.
** More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.

** Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years..

**More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.

**19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years.

These are the majot attacks reported by the international news agenciesfor the
month of November 2008.

11/28/2008 India Mumbai 0 Five Jewish hostages, including a rabbi and his wife, are murdered by Islamists.
11/27/2008 Afghanistan Badghis Thirteen local security personnel are killed in an ambush by religious extremists.
11/27/2008 Pakistan Swat 0 Six people are shot to death by Sunni extremists in separate attacks, including a brutal abduction.
11/27/2008 Iraq Mosul Suicide bombers successfully take out two Iraqi civilians.
11/27/2008 Afghanistan Kabul A suicide car bomber takes out four local civilians outside the US embassy.
11/26/2008 Dagestan Khasavyurt A police officer is gunned down outside a mosque by Jihad terrorists.
11/26/2008 Dagestan Makhachkala A border guard is shot and killed by Muslim militants.
11/26/2008 Russia Vladikavkaz A mayor is assassinated by local terrorists, who call him an "enemy of Allah."
11/26/2008 Pakistan Peshawar Two residents are killed when the Taliban fire rockets into their home.
11/26/2008 Iraq Samarrah Six people are murdered by local Jihadists.
11/26/2008 Iraq Diyala Twenty-three victims of sectarian terrorists are found in a mass grave.
11/26/2008 Philippines Makir Moro Islamists ambush a group of local soldiers guarding a highway, killing one.
11/26/2008 India Mumbai Mujahideen throw grenades and machine-gun nearly ninety civilians and tourists to death
11/25/2008 Somalia Baidoa A local officer is shot several times in the chest by Islamists at a market.
11/25/2008 Pakistan Matta A butcher is among three people gunned down by the Taliban in separate attacks.
11/25/2008 Pakistan Kohat Four persons, including a mother and child, are killed when sectarian Jihadis fire into a vehicle.
11/25/2008 Pakistan Hangu Shia militants open fire in a hotel, murdering eight Sunni rivals.
11/25/2008 Iraq Mosul Two Americans are shot to death while handing out humanitarian aid.
11/25/2008 India Baramulla A 14-year-old boy is killed when Islamists throw a grenade into a roadshow.
11/24/2008 Thailand Yala Islamists gun down three civilians and severely injure a teacher in separate attacks.
11/24/2008 India Doda A civilian is murdered in his home by Muslim terrorists.
11/24/2008 Dagestan Karabudakhent Muslim rebels open fire on a group of policemen, killing two.
11/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad A female suicide bomber takes out five Iraqis.
11/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad Women and children are heavily represented in the thirteen bus passengers massacred by Mujahideen bombers.
11/24/2008 Pakistan Mingora Religious extremists execute a woman in her home for immoral behavior.
11/24/2008 Pakistan Kabal Mujahid assassinate a local political activist.
11/23/2008 Iraq Muwaylaha Nine kidnap victims of an Islamic milita are found in a mass grave.
11/23/2008 Chechnya Sadovyi Mujahideen murder five security personnel and a civilian in two attacks.
11/23/2008 Ingushetia Nazran Islamic militants kill an off-duty cop at a grocery store.
11/22/2008 Somalia Mogadishu At least fifteen civilians are killed in attacks by Islamic militias on security forces.
11/22/2008 Afghanistan Kunar After being held in captivity for three months, the Taliban execute a local official when their demands are not met.
11/22/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni A local civilian is captured and shot to death by Sunni radicals.
11/22/2008 Afghanistan Khost A 15-year-old boy and a man are blown to bits when Holy Warriors bomb a vegetable market.
11/22/2008 Iraq Iskandariya Two women are among ten people found executed in a mass grave in a Sunni stronghold.
11/22/2008 Pakistan Mingora Religious extremists burn down a video store and shoot a civilian to death.
11/22/2008 Ingushetia Nazran A cafe worker is gunned down by Muslim rebels.
11/22/2008 Pakistan Hangu Two children are among five killed when Islamists set a bomb off inside a rival mosque.
11/22/2008 Pakistan Bannu A Taliban rocket attack on a police post leaves three dead.
11/22/2008 Afghanistan Kabul Sunni extremists kill a French de-miner with a landmine.
11/21/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan Radical Sunnis gun down a Shia cleric, then bomb his funeral, murdering eight others.
11/21/2008 Afghanistan Zabul Three civilians are blown to bits by a suicide car bomber.
11/21/2008 Somalia Mogadishu Five children are among nine civilians killed in a rolling series of attacks by Islamic militia in residential areas.
11/21/2008 Iran Tehran A 43-year-old businessman is tortured by police into a "confession" then executed as a spy.
11/21/2008 Iraq Baghdad Mujahideen take out three Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
11/21/2008 Pakistan Hangu Religious extremists fire a rocket at a checkpoint, killing a policeman.
11/20/2008 Afghanistan Khost A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates outside an office building, sending eight Afghans to Allah.
11/20/2008 Iraq Kut Sunni extremists invade a home and kill five residents, including children.
11/20/2008 Iraq Mosul T women are among five people murdered by terrorists while sitting in their vehicle.
11/20/2008 Pakistan Bajaur A suicide bomber enters a rival mosque and takes out nine innocents.
11/19/2008 Dagestan Buynaksk A local cop is gunned down by suspected Muslim militants.
11/19/2008 Yemen Joaar al-Qaeda terrorists gun down four local cops and a civilian.
11/19/2008 Pakistan Islamabad Two men are shot to death by Mujahideen along a city street.
11/18/2008 Iraq Baghdad Fifteen bodies are found beneath a house controlled by the militia of a Shiite cleric.
11/18/2008 Thailand Pattani Two Buddhists are shot to death by Muslim militants, who then mutilate the bodies and take amputated arms.
11/18/2008 Thailand Yala Islamists gun down a soldier shopping at a local market as well as his wife, who came to his defense.
11/18/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Mujahideen gun down a woman and her son on their way to work at a plantation.
11/17/2008 Pakistan Swat 4 3 Four Pakistanis are blown apart by a suicide car bomber.
11/17/2008 Afghanistan Dand Three Afghans are murdered by a suicide bomber.
11/17/2008 Thailand Pattani A 44-year-old security guard is shot three times by Islamic terrorists while riding his motorbike.
11/17/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar Religious extremists murder four civilians with a roadside bomb.
11/17/2008 Ingushetia Nazran Islamic separatists shoot a married couple in their car, killing the man and putting his wife in the hospital.
11/17/2008 Afghanistan Farah Talibanis ambush a group of local soldiers, shooting some and beheading others.
11/17/2008 Thailand Narathiwat A civilian is killed, and his 8-year-old daughter badly injured, when Islamic gunmen fire on their pickup truck.
11/17/2008 Thailand Pattani A 73-year-old woman is among three civilians murdered by Religion of Peace gunmen in separate attacks.
11/16/2008 Iraq Baghdad Jihadis manage to kill three Iraqis with a roadside bomb.
11/16/2008 Pakistan Anayat Kalley A tribal elder is killed in a brutal ambush by a group of Taliban.
11/16/2008 Somalia Baidoa A child and two women are blown to bits by Muslim bombers at a marketplace.
11/16/2008 Thailand Yala A young man is murdered outside his home by Muslim gunmen.
11/16/2008 Iraq Jalawla A Fedayeen detonates himself in a crowd, sending fifteen innocent souls to Allah.
11/16/2008 Thailand Pattani Islamists shoot a man to death outside a mosque.
11/16/2008 Somalia Mogadishu Islamists open fire on a car, killing two businessmen.
11/15/2008 Iraq Tal Afar Mujahideen plant a car bomb at a car dealership, killing nine employees and customers.
11/15/2008 Iraq Baghdad Three people are killed when terrorists detonate a bomb near a theatre.
11/15/2008 Philippines Sarangani Moro Islamists murder two local soldiers with a landmine.
11/15/2008 Somalia Yaqshid Two civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic extremists.
11/14/2008 Afghanistan Khost Three construction workers are shot to death by Sunni extremists.
11/14/2008 Pakistan Ramora A young man is forced by honor to kill his sister and her lover after finding them in a compromising position.
11/13/2008 Iraq Ramadi A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders four people.
11/13/2008 Afghanistan Nangarhar Islamic suicide bombers hit a livestock market, sending nine innocents to Allah.
11/13/2008 Philippines Mindanao A 5-year-old boy is among three civilians killed by Moro Islamists during an assault.
11/13/2008 Dagestan Urguba Suspected Islamists gun down a local cop at point-blank range.
11/12/2008 Pakistan Charsadda A half dozen people are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
11/12/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar Three teenage schoolgirls are sprayed with acid for not wearing burqas.
11/12/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar Six people are killed when a suicide bomber flattens a commercial district.
11/12/2008 Iraq Mosul Two Christian sisters are shot to death inside their home by Muslim militants.
11/12/2008 Pakistan Peshawar An American humanitarian worker and his driver are murdered by Islamic radicals.
11/12/2008 Iraq Baghdad Nearly two dozen Iraqis are successfully killed by Mujahideen bombers in three attacks.
11/12/2008 Afghanistan Farah A religious cleric who condemned suicide bombings is kidnapped and executed in captivity by the Taliban.
11/11/2008 Pakistan Peshawar A suicide bomber murders four people outside a sports stadium.
11/11/2008 Thailand Pattani A Buddhist civilian is shot to death at close range by Islamists.
11/11/2008 Thailand Yala Two laborers are shot to death by Islamic militants in separate attacks.
11/11/2008 Thailand Pattani A 79-year-old woman is murdered along with her son by Muslim terrorists as she is walking home.
11/11/2008 Iraq Baghdad Mujahideen target newpaper vendors with bombs, killing at least three.
11/10/2008 Iraq Baghdad Two Sunni suicide bombers massacre thirty Shia civilians outside a fine arts school.
11/10/2008 Thailand Narathiwat Islamists kill a local soldier with a roadside bomb.
11/10/2008 Pakistan Orakzai Sunni extremists fire on a passenger bus, killing one person.
11/10/2008 Iraq Baqubah al-Qaeda sends a 13-year-old female suicide bomber to a gathering where seven people are killed.
11/10/2008 Dubai Umm Suqeim A brother stabs his sister's lover to death in an honor killing. (The woman is also stabbed, but survives).
11/9/2008 Philippines Maguindanao Two locals are abduted and shot to death by Moro Islamists.
11/9/2008 Algeria Jijel Islamic fundamentalists murder a 52-year-old civilian.
11/9/2008 Afghanistan Herat A suicide bomber yells 'Allah Akbar' then detonates along a highway, killing two Spanish soldiers.
11/9/2008 Philippines Pikit A 12-year-old boy and 10-year-old girl are brutally gunned down by Islamic extremists.
11/9/2008 Iraq Fallujah Two woman and a 10-year-old girl are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
11/9/2008 Pakistan Matta A woman is pumped full of bullets after being found guilty of adultery by a Sharia court.
11/8/2008 Algeria Naciria A young man delivering bread is shot and beheaded by Islamic fundamentalists.
11/8/2008 Somalia Jamame A aid worker, whose agency helps construct roads, is murdered by Islamic militia.
11/8/2008 Somalia Lego Al-Shabab terrorists kidnap and behead three local soldiers.
11/8/2008 Pakistan North Waziristan Two civilians are abducted, then riddled with bullets by religious extremists.
11/8/2008 Iraq Ramadi A double suicide bombing by Fedayeen leave eight Iraqis dead.
11/7/2008 Afghanistan Ghor Talibanis assassinate a local official.
11/7/2008 Iraq Baghdad Two Jihad bombings leave six civilians dead.
11/7/2008 Pakistan Changa Manga A 15-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her brother on suspicion of sexual relations.
11/7/2008 Pakistan Mingora Two local security personnel are dismembered by a suicide bomber.
11/6/2008 Russia Vladikavkaz A female suicide bomber strikes at a marketplace busstop, murdering at least eleven passengers.
11/6/2008 Algeria Cabilia A popular mayor is kidnapped, executed and then burned by Islamic fundamentalists.
11/6/2008 Pakistan Khar Fedayeen suicide bombers take out over twenty people at a gathering of tribal elders.
11/6/2008 Thailand Yala The 47-year-old widow of a murdered man is herself gunned down by Muslim militants.
11/6/2008 Iraq Mosul A young woman is shot to death by suspected fundamentalists over immoral activity.
11/5/2008 Pakistan Waziristan Five civilians are hanged by religious fundamentalists.
11/5/2008 Somalia Mogadishu Islamic militia kill a local guard with a hand grenade.
11/5/2008 Iraq Baghdad Six people are blown to bits by a suicide bomber at an airport.
11/5/2008 Pakistan FATA Mujahideen abduct and murder a local official.
11/5/2008 Thailand Yala A school janitor on his way to work is shot to death by Islamic extremists.
11/4/2008 Pakistan Hangu Seven people are killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
11/4/2008 Thailand Narathiwat Islamists bomb a marketplace and a tea shop, killing at least one innocent and injuring over seventy.
11/4/2008 Pakistan Mardan Two policemen are shot at point blank range by Muslim militants.
11/4/2008 Iraq Baghdad Eighteen Iraqis are killed in at least four Jihad bombings.
11/4/2008 Iraq Madaen A woman and two children are killed when terrorists lob a mortar into their home.
11/4/2008 Pakistan Swat The Taliban tie a policeman to a pole and shoot him to death.
11/4/2008 Thailand Yala A 16-year-old boy is among three people ambushed and murdered by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
11/4/2008 Pakistan Orakzai An elderly man is gunned down by Sunni extremists.
11/3/2008 Iraq Baghdad Jihadis manage to kill six Iraqis with a double bombing.
11/3/2008 Iraq Buhriz Four children are among six members of a family taken out in a brutal al-Qaeda bomb attack.
11/3/2008 Somalia Baidoa A women's rights activist is shot twice in the head and chest in front of her business by Islamic hardliners.
11/3/2008 Thailand Narathiwat A 66-year-old tea shop owner is shot to death by Islamic separatists.
11/3/2008 Pakistan Kabal Khas A father and son are among four people detained, then shot to death by Islamic radicals.
11/3/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar Taliban gunmen murder a government official as he is riding a motorbike.
11/3/2008 Iraq Saadiya Two women are kidnapped and murdered by suspected Sunni extremists.
11/2/2008 Iraq Kirkuk Two children are taken out by Jihadi roadside bombers.
11/2/2008 Thailand Narathiwat A Buddhist family is attacked by Muslim terrorists, who shoot the 72-year-old matriarch to death.
11/2/2008 Pakistan Zalai A suicide bomber murders eight local soldiers at a checkpoint.
11/2/2008 Somalia Baidoa Fundamentalists kill five Somalis with a roadside blast.
11/1/2008 Pakistan Peshawar Two residents are gunned down by Islamic militants.
11/1/2008 Iraq Basra Jihadis take out a young child with a landmine.

[The Traveler]

16. And the long history of Western violence

in the Islamic world has nothing to do with their actions. Of course. How silly of me to consider the whole of history, rather than just those parts you find convenient.

[brentspeak]

20. What does anything that happened in the past have to do with

some 20-something Paskistani psychos going on a shooting and bombing rampage in India?

[Turborama]

17. Source? N/T

[davsand]

18. That is exactly like calling the KKK a "Christan" thing.

You can't lay violence off on an entire religion and not look like a flaming ass.


:puke:


Ready for your pizza now?



Laura

[Sex Pistol]

19. British muslims...