BUSH A NO-SHOW AT ALABAMA BASE, SAYS MEMPHIAN

[mondo joe]

BUSH A NO-SHOW AT ALABAMA BASE, SAYS MEMPHIAN
FedEx Pilot Bob Mintz, backed up by a Carolina colleague, recalls no Dubya at Dannelly AFB in 1972.
JACKSON BAKER | 2/13/2004

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Copyright 2004 The Memphis Flyer

MEMPHIS – Two members of the Air National Guard unit that President George W. Bush allegedly served with as a young Guard flyer in 1972 had been told to expect him and were on the lookout for him. He never showed, however; of that both Bob Mintz and Paul Bishop are certain.

The issue of Bush’s presence in 1972 at Dannelly Air National Guard base in Montgomery, Alabama – or the lack of it – has become an issue in the 2004 presidential campaign.

Recalls Memphian Mintz, now 63: “I remember that I heard someone was coming to drill with us from Texas. And it was implied that it was somebody with political influence. I was a young bachelor then. I was looking for somebody to prowl around with.” But, says Mintz, that “somebody” -- better known to the world now as the president of the United States -- never showed up at Dannelly in 1972. Nor in 1973, nor at any time that Mintz, a FedEx pilot now and an Eastern Airlines pilot then, when he was a reserve first lieutenant at Dannelly, can remember.

“And I was looking for him,” repeated Mintz, who said that he assumed that Bush “changed his mind and went somewhere else” to do his substitute drill. It was not “somewhere else,” however, but the 187th Air National Guard Tactical squadron at Dannelly to which the young Texas flyer had requested transfer from his regular Texas unit – the reason being Bush’s wish to work in Alabama on the ultimately unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton "Red" Blount.



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http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2834&onthefly=1

[mhr]

1. Well, The Other Shoe Has Dropped. What Will Rove Do?

eom

[Adams Wulff]

12. I dunno. I suppose we could ask Paul Wellstone.

Oh wait... never mind.

[digno dave]

31. he'll make a call to matty boy

i'll tell you what he'll do...he'll fill drudge in on a whopper of a story about Kerry....ooops, happening as we speak.

[polmaven]

35. Sure,

Karl just read the story in the National Enquirer, and figures it must be true, given the outstanding credentials of that publication!

[Emillereid]

52. In my best Rove imitation I'd say we're ready

for another orange alert -- no better not, people are catching on the that ruse. Let me see, how about another little war -- no, people are still demanding answers about why we went to war the last time. Let's see, what will work to take attention away from AWOL 's awol problem? Oh dummy me, why didn't I think of this right away -- a SEX SCANDAL. Of course, the American sheeple never tire of sex and titillation and it's especially good if it includes adultery and interns and democrats. Look over here America -- SEX, KERRY, SEX, INTERN -- good people.

[King_Crimson]

53. If only some droppings about Rove...

would surface about now imagine what that would do! Maybe some spinmeister oughtta dream something about that rat bastard up. If he could only be dis-tracted at this stage, Dems could go for the jugular!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[wabeewoman]

62. The answer is only an airwave away....

focus on gay marriage and smearing John Kerry. Was their any doubt??

[loudnclear]

66. Sure hope Mintz doesn't lose his job at FedEx. Keep an eye on it.

Bush will not come clean...that's the issue. These Rethugs won't own up to their shortcomings but can berate anyone else who "won't take responsibility for their actions." They will try to attack Kerry for speaking out against the war when he returned home. But it is much more admirable and responsible to tell the truth, and change your mind when you find out that your were wrong or that things are not as you were told they were. Only the mindless soldiers who suffered in silence seeing their buddies killed and maimed in a needless war based on lies (both Viet Nam and Iraq) who will not even now say it was a mistake to kill and be killed will resent Kerry for this. That bullshit "honor code" in not real honor...truth is honor and humility is leadership.

[Walt Starr]

2. THAT'S A GUN!!!!

And there's smoke just a POURING out of the barrel!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

4. Yup. Hallefuckinlujah!

[underpants]

15. SssssssssssssssssssMOKIN'

Yeah!

[Jawja]

42. Underpants!

I like your new digs!!

:bounce:

[Ripley]

3. Hah! I believe him on that one...

Recalls Memphian Mintz, now 63: “I remember that I heard someone was coming to drill with us from Texas. And it was implied that it was somebody with political influence. I was a young bachelor then. I was looking for somebody to prowl around with.”

You bet your bottom dollar he would have remembered swilling/snorting/screwing around Smirky. Sounds like they would have hung out together.

[salinen]

6. Since nobody recalls chimp

why doesn't some crack reporter ask who they DO remember. If they remember other guys, maybe even became friends, it makes it look even worse

[Robroy]

5. Bingo, Bango, Bongo

I hope the mainstream media runs with this.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

The cat has left the bag...

for good....

:)

[Beetwasher]

7. AWOL's Huge Monstrous Legs

Keep it coming!

[Grins]

67. This is a great issue!!!

You're right. The more you dig the more you shovel on his grave.

Time for a old/new bumper sticker: "Bush (with an X over the name) 2004. Restoring honor and dignity to the White House". Oops, its been done. Sorta.

[smiley_glad_hands]

8. This needs to get to the mainstream media.

[ewagner]

9. Great Find!

Finally people with actual direct knowledge......

This deserves more play......

[0rganism]

10. Hey now, in fairness, he did show up to get paid for a dental exam

And we all know how scary a trip to the dentist can be!

[Beetwasher]

13. Funny Thing That Dental Exam

The dentist doesn't seem to remember it! Hehehehehe...

[Grins]

68. Another damn government giveaway...

Sheesh. Free dental care for these welfare queens. What next?

[Catherine Vincent]

11. Ahem....

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-)

[underpants]

14. Gimme a B--gimme a U-gimme a S-gimme a T-gimme an E- gimme a D

What's that spell?

[Jawja]

43. BUSTED!!!!!!

:bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast:

[seemslikeadream]

16. They're just coming out of the woodwork!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[NashVegas]

17. Well. There Goes Tennessee

'nuff said.

[Beetwasher]

18. Is This a Big Paper in TN?

I don't have a clue...

[Lars39]

20. Here's a description of The Memphis Flyer:

http://www.aan.org/gbase/Aan/viewCompany?oid=oid%3A46

"The largest alternative weekly..."

[joycep]

49. I live in Memphis

I would not miss the Flyer for anything. That's where you get the real news. And it's definitely not National Enquirer!

[Lars39]

54. I'll have to start checking TMF out! Didn't know it existed. eom

[cosmicdot]

51. hope, as TN goes, so goes the Nation ... 50 state sweep out

[macedc]

19. GW(easal) Bush is a lying SOB and a coward

This is fabulous

[DemoTex]

21. Essentially what I said in an earlier post today!

Mintz: “I remember that I heard someone was coming to drill with us from Texas. And it was implied that it was somebody with political influence."

The unit is customarily given a heads-up on anyone coming around with any links to the press or to Washington, DC. Bu$h wasn't going to sign in at the AANG "cold turkey."

This is good news, but I do spot one potential contradiction in the piece. It says that Mintz, 63, is a Fedex pilot. Airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 60. My guess is that Mintz, who most likely got a relatively late start at Fedex after Eastern folded, elected to downgrade to flight engineer. Flight engineers can continue flying past 60. This could be seen as a way to enhance his retirement benefits. Not many pilots ever do this because A. there aren't that many 3-person crew aircraft left nowadays, and B. most pilot egos cannot withstand the move from the grand and glorious seat of the captain to the engineers side-saddle seat behind the pilots .. pilots who are usually considerably younger.

[leftchick]

22. OMG..... aWol* is SOOOO Toast Now!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!.... It couldn't have happened to a Worse Traitor To this country!!!


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[0007]

23. Holy Smoke, ya mean the WH lied again to us? LOL!!

“There’s no way we wouldn’t have noticed a strange rooster in the henhouse,"

And the dentist records at Dannelly AFB? Ya mean this strange rooster just walked in one sunny day and had his beak cleaned, 'eh? ... and the payroll records just fell out of the sky, while this little rooster was cruising from Texas to Alabama in his U.S. jet.

[CatWoman]

24. Heh -- * is in deep

cock-a-doodle-doo-doo

[TacticalPeek]

34. LOL!

"I'm the WARRRRRRRRR President!"


That's good, cause here comes one.


:evilgrin:

[Shadder]

25. Game. Set. Match.

This dog will hunt!

[polmaven]

37. This dog HAS hunted..

He just flushed a great big chickenhawk out of its roost....KABLAM!

[jburton]

26. this is a "weekly" paper

Meaning they would have had most of this info for quite a few days.


And think how much this has ALREADY blown up in the past 48 hours without this info!


This is hitting...

[cryofan]

47. What a Fucking SCOOP for the Memphis Flyer and JACKSON BAKER,

....JACKSON BAKER, reporter extra-ordin-fucking-aire!

[jpgray]

27. Ba-flippin'-ZING

Mintz and Bishop, you are my two personal heroes. Way to go!!

[maddezmom]

28. finally

hope this guy stays safe.

[catmandu57]

29. The incredible invisible moron*

Seems more people remember not seeing the moron* I guess invisibility isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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[Lizz612]

32. I'm sure there is a logiacal reason...

that is Chipy was AWOL!! :nuke:

[democrank]

33. Anybody know the answer?

Didn`t Colin Powell make a statement about Bush being AWOL back in 2000 or just prior to that? I am absolutely certain that I read this somewhere.Seems to me that it was about the same time a number of people spoke out: Chuck Hagel, John McCain, Daniel Inouye,John Kerry and others.

[crissy71]

36. Breaking on Drudge: "Kerry Jerked Off When He Was 12"

[Lex]

39. Hahaha

***Worldwide*** Drudge Breaking report!

What a dipshit Drudge is.

[grasswire]

38. new: AL commander sez Bush didn't show up

I started a thread in GD based on a story from the Birmingham News:

Bush did not receive military pay from May to September of 1972, according to the documents, and the former commander of the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron said Tuesday that Bush didn't show up during those months.

"He never did come to my squad," said retired Lt. Col. Reese Bricken, who lives in Montgomery. "He was never at my unit."

Bricken reviewed documents Tuesday showing Bush's transfer request to his squadron and his response to the request. He said he remembered sending approval back for him to serve in the small unit, made up of reserve members who met weekly.

"He was looking for a place to hang his hat, but he never came by," Bricken said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1115305

[VolcanoJen]

40. One helluva great find, mondo joe!! (n/m)

:dem:

[Gman]

41. a FedEx pilot now ...

You think this guy has never seen "Castaway".

He better watch it a few times. He made to learn some things.

[savistocate]

56. Only a short time ago pRez* boasted..

he doesn't have to answer to anyone. People must answer to him but he doesn't explain himself to anyone. Heh-heh-har-har.

This is some justice a bit overdue. While his way stretched claims on Iraq regime's massive threat with no time to waste in getting Saddam --devastating flattening Iraq --his wmd, CheneyBushGang forced to answer to. Inevitable the wmd
but did not think his awol wld rise again. Wheoouw!!

His top advisors exposing a CIA agent to get instant gratification
by vengence spite--answer to all this Bush. Cheney of the cold self confident air of superiority, unquestioned power, no less.

[cryofan]

44. TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.....THE PARTY'S OVER.....

They say that all...Evil Empires Must End....

[MoonRiver]

45. Gee, I don't think even Rove can arrange for these National Guardsmen

who have no recollection of seeing His Lowness to 'go missing'. That might just raise an eyebrow or two. Guess *'s lies and crimes are catching up to him. :D

[pinniped]

46. Well contrary to what those repukes on other boards think...

this is not a closed issue.

But maybe pres. POS was at Denver getting his fangs cleaned.

[cryofan]

48. can someone please post that memphis flyer story at freerepublic?

I would do it, but I have been banned so many times before.

I just wanna see those freepers SQUIRM when they read this one.
Please include both stories:
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2834&onthefly=1

and this one that mentions the commander of the postal unit:
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1076497178284961.xml

Just start a new thread with an appropriate title...PLEEEAASSSE?

[Fuzz]

50. It's already there

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076896/posts

[Woodstock]

55. What sad little people

Whenever I wade into that sad little place, I always picture a bunch of young guys making no better than average wages, blowing off steam after groveling to their bosses all day by gathering together on the internet and reafirming their delusions. They will always serve. They will never make it to the top. Because they will never think for themselves. They are sad little thralls the Bushes of the world step on to get where they are going. The thing they will never get is, the Bushes of the world know damned well what is going on, they do think for themselves. They lie deliberately, not because they are morons. Make that morans.

[cryofan]

58. the freepers are trying to get Mintz in trouble with his employer FedEx

One of the posts on the FR thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076896/posts?q=1&&page=51 ) on this subject says:


"You know, a few thousand emails to FedEx Customer Comments about Mr. Mintz' UNSUBSTANTIATED comments about Bush may just motivate FedEx to have a chat with Mr. Mintz."

Typical Freeper Scumbags.....

[jfxgillis]

60. Rotsa Ruck to the Freepers

The Founder of FedEx, Fred Smith, and John Kerry were great pals at Yale.

Smith re-started the dormant Yale Aviation Club and recruited Kerry as one of the first members.

Tee Hee.

Please don't tell the Freepers this.

[jfxgillis]

61. Too late

The sharper ones already figured it out.

SNORT.

[seemslikeadream]

57. CBS reported this story tonight

It was on the tube. :bounce:

[KoKo]

59. Yes! CBS was the "Flavor to Savor" tonight. Better than other Networks!

They covered the USA TODAY article and what Burkett said about Chimp.

[keopeli]

63. bump

[loyalsister]

64. Tricia Nixon

Funny to see he hung around with her. I would love to hear what she has to say about him!
Didn't she invite Grace Slick to the White House? Then Gracie came up with a plan to drop acid in Trickie Dick's tea.

[dbt]

65. Why do such GREAT things come from Memphis?

Stax Records, Sun Records, Elvis, WDIA and

NOW THIS!!!

I
:loveya:
Memphis!

dbt
(Memphomaniac)

[0007]

69. btt

:kick: