Bush releases arrest details

[Say_What]

<clips>

THE White House today released details of President George W Bush's arrests and traffic violations as a young man amid questions about his military service at the height of the Vietnam war.

Spokesman Scott McClellan revealed the information because of questions stemming from the fact that they were blacked out on National Guard forms given to US media, sparking more questions about Bush's actions 30 years ago.

McClellan said Bush had previously disclosed arrests for stealing a Christmas wreath while a student at Yale University, and for rowdiness at a football game.

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8668938%255E1702,00.html

[AZCat]

1. They did NOT release unblacked-out copies

This is just from what Scott McClellan said during press gaggle on AF1- no info that this is all that was blacked out.

[NNN0LHI]

2. Just how many times has this guy been arrest for crying out loud? n/t

[0007]

10. At least six!!

[Poiuyt]

23. I don't know anyone who's ever been arrested

But then, I hang out with decent people

[Womblestuffer]

19. What are they hiding? Shrub, the truth will set you free..or us of you

Its like a kid holding his hands behind his back asking you how many fingers are showing. Reality is on hold at the White House

[rhino47]

3. From stealing a christmas wreath to stealing elections

[arcane1]

4. hey George, why not give us your original SSN??? HUH???

or at least give us a half-ass excuse for why you changed it

:shrug:

[RedEarth]

7. I heard he changed his driver license number

Did he also get his SSN changed?

[arcane1]

15. not 100% sure

in my home state both numbers are the same... his SSN was blacked out of the TANG papers of Scotty's, though, IIRC

[Gman]

26. His Texas DL number was allegedly changed before he ran for

Governor in Texas. Apparently there's no records under the old TDL number.

[progressivebydesign]

27. He really changed it??

That is really suspicious.. why would a person be allowed to do that?? That is so wrong! Stealing a Christmas Wreath? WHat a jerk.

[underpants]

5. Interesting paragraph-some would call this spin some would not

Bush, 57, avoided combat in Vietnam by enlisting in the Texas Air National Guard, but opposition Democrats have raised questions about whether he served during a murky period between May 1972 and May 1973.

[Jacobin]

6. How 'bout that expunged cocaine arrest, douchebag?

[Archae]

8. Yet look what's left out, AFAICT

Nothing on the DUI's or dope bust.

If the Bush White House actually told the WHOLE TRUTH, there'd be some major cranial-rectal explosions there!

[54anickel]

9. 2 collisions in 62 and speeding tickets in 64. No DWI? Why was it

blacked out? And was that copy Scooter had on the AF1 "gaggle" from an original or a new one?

[underpants]

12. I think McClellan only told them about pre-TANG days

The DUI was in the 70's right?

[54anickel]

16. Whoops, you're right. 76

Did a quick google, sorry for the source
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/3/154940.shtml

[mac2]

20. DWI in the 70s?

GW Bush has admitted to being a drunk and druggie right up until his forties. That's when he was converted.

He was discharged from duty about 1973. He would not pass a physical or drug test would he to fly?

He was born in 1946. In the 70s, he would be in his late twenties.

Just a rich kid having a good time.

[PartyPooper]

21. Wasn't he arrested in Kennebunkport for DUI in the 1970's?

Remember, it came out late in the 2000 campaign and Poppy nearly went crazy!

Was Junior using his Texas driver's license in Maine? Was this license the one he later exchanged for a new one? Or, did he have a Maine license, too?

:shrug:

[Ganja Ninja]

11. Check out this line from McLellan.

"The American people deserve better. They deserve an honest discussion about leadership in a time of war."

Is that why you blacked out Bush's records?

[AZCat]

14. Honesty apparently no longer means telling the truth

"Four legs good- two legs better!"
(repeat ad nauseum)

[mac2]

18. Rumsfeld quote at the bottom of your post is now std. testimony

Tenet used this type of explanation when appearing before Congress. They must memorize it. Hey...you're going before the people and Congress..cover your butt with nonsensical sentences. Mabye, they won't notice you aren't answering the question.

[mac2]

13. Christmas wreath stolen?

How cute stealing wreath? You mean drunkenness at a football game?

This is all distraction from his AWOL. McClellan was getting pressure from the press when he said to a reporters, he didn't want to get into gutter politics. She said, by asking that question...she wasn't. She just wanted a straight answer. He never did answer it.

McClellan didn't want to get into "gutter politics"? Right now, he is in the bowels of the gutter giants. In other words, don't ask embarrassing questions that might make the voters think about the truth.

I long for the days of Clinton's cuddly press secretaries who didn't talk in riddles and circles. They'd just say...don't know that..can't tell you until I ask about it...etc. I'll get back to you on that. The press was insinuating and obnoxious..now it is reversed don't you think?

[belle]

17. Yeah, that's what I thought. That li'l rascal! (retch)

I'm *sure* that's the worst thing he's ever done, but if those nasty, insinuating Democrats insist on prying... naughty, naughty Georgie Porgie.

[yellowcanine]

22. Referring to what happened in the 60s as Bush's "Arrest Record"

is kind of like calling the attack on Fort Sumpter the Civil War. A lot of the really big stuff happened later.

[chelsea0011]

24. Last President to release their arrest records?

:wtf: Is this a first? Can't wait to see his mug shot on Smoking Gun.

[DemoTex]

28. My feeling exactly! "President" and "arrest records" used together.

And those were the pre-guard arrests. Not the post-68 stuff, which we all know includes a DUI in Maine. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, George W. Bu$h, a repeat offender.

[PartyPooper]

29. As a baseball afficionado and commissioner wannabe...

surely Junior can appreciate the concept of "three strikes and you're out".

He NEVER should have been elected dog catcher of Houston...much less governor of Texas and presidential usurper!

In the end, I hope he gets sent to the Hague to do some serious time.

:evilfrown:

[Jose Diablo]

34. Definitely recidivist tendencies n/t

[TacticalPeek]

25. From today's gaggle:

Q Scott, just to keep trolling for a minute. This sheet that's in your hand and the blackout that was in one of the newspapers --

MR. McCLELLAN: This is the exact thing in the newspaper.

Q Who did the blackout that showed up in the --

MR. McCLELLAN: You'd have to ask the people who released those documents.

Q Okay. So what you have is something that came from the same source, that was not blacked out?

MR. McCLELLAN: I think that you all recognize that when government agencies or people like the National Guard release information, there are
privacy issues involved. And I expect that they follow those --

Q But the White House got a copy that did not have the blackout.

MR. McCLELLAN: The President's records, that's correct.

Q Glad we asked.

MR. McCLELLAN: Anything else? Thank you.

END 10:17 A.M. EST

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Amen, Q. I'm glad you asked, too. Thanks.

I see in the distant, foggy canyons of memory a press that were my heroes. How jarring.

[Politicub]

30. I don't think this helps his cause

Well, maybe it helps his standing with the serial lawbreaker contingent.

Most people I know haven't been arrested even once.

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32. seen this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1116162

The White House on Wednesday backed away from President Bush's weekend pledge to release all records from his Air National Guard service.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the administration would not necessarily make public additional records regarding Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard, unless the president's aides determine that they are "relevant to this issue."

McClellan refused to commit to releasing medical or disciplinary records that become available to the White House. Bush's aides had released payroll records and other documents on Tuesday that they thought would douse the controversy, but instead they raised new questions about Bush's service."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/chi-0402120346feb12,1,...

what's in those disciplinary records?

for that matter, what about the medical ones, too?

possible substance abuse?

[dbt]

33. Kick!

'Scuze me while I sling this muddy little tidbit back to the top.

:evilgrin:
dbt

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[dusty64]

36. Looks like chimp has

just opened another pandora's box. ALL his arrests are now on the table. Has anyone asked him why his SS number was changed and if he's ever been busted for drugs?

[eek]

37. DL expunged and changed for "security" reasons when governor.

That was the quickie news when the subject came and went back in 99 or 00

I don't know about such things but I assume that erasing driving records and issuing new liscence numbers for *governorships* isn't exacly de rigeur!

My other assumption is that one of the things they wanted to keep "secure" was a vehicular manslaughter or so!