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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:21 PM
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GOP applauds Hillary as potential secretary of state
Source: Newsday

Yes, there are several names being floated for secretary of state in the Obama administration. But it was the trial balloon named Hillary Rodham Clinton that drew praise from several Republicans this past weekend, as well as from her own husband, who claimed not to be privy to details of her talks with the president-elect.

Hillary Clinton would be "a very good selection" as secretary of state, the Senate's second-ranking Republican, Jon Kyle of Arizona, said in an interview with Fox News Sunday morning. "It seems to me she's got the experience. She's got the temperament for it. I think she would be well received around the world," Kyl said.

Sen. Byron Dorgan (R, N.D.) told Fox he didn't think she would have trouble winning confirmation. "She's worked across the aisle, has good bipartisan relationships" and "would have instant credibility around the world," he added. The U.S. has "a lot of relationships to repair and a lot of work to do, so I think she'd be a fine choice."

Obama and Clinton have done nothing to tamp down speculation on the widely leaked news that she traveled to meet with him in Chicago Thursday and discussed the possibility of the State Department job. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson is also reported to have met with Obama last week and others, including Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, are reportedly also being considered for the post...


Read more: http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/nation/ny-ushill1712182722nov17,0,6071620.story
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:23 PM
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1. Aren't both of those GOP congressmen the same who oppose helping Detroit?
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:27 PM
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2. Senator Dorgan is a Democrat nt
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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:30 PM
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4. Ha!
Those D's and R's really are hard for Faux aren't they?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:04 PM
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14. Correct. Our other two congress critters are DINO's though.
But Dorgan is a Democrat.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:45 AM
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57. "Our other two congress critters are DINO's though."
Sooooo sorry.

:hug:

Having DINOs for reps used to burn me when I lived in FL.... but we moved to the NE and it feels good to expect competent representation.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:30 PM
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3. Kyl. As in Kyl Lieberman
As in one of the two bastards who wrote the "Hey Chimpy, here's the excuse you need to start another goddamn stupid war against some little pissant (but oil rich) country incapable of attacking the United States" amendment.

Which Hillary voted for.

Now the people who want that war more than anything are endorsing her.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that she should be taken off the list immediately.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:42 PM
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11. what you said. nt
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:11 PM
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18. I agree she is a bad choice.She is bush's buddy
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:30 PM
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5. hiccup
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 09:30 PM by Sebastian Doyle
delete.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:30 PM
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6. They are doing this shit on purpose, Kissenger and now this.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 09:37 PM by xultar
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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:32 PM
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7. What do you think their angle is? n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:40 PM
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9. The GOP HATES Hillary Clinton. They want to ruin her. The only thing the Progressives and GOP
have in common, Hillary Hate.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:48 PM
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25. Yeah, it's not like she agrees with the Repubs on foreign policy or something. Oh, wait.
She DOES agree with the Republicans on foreign policy: on preemption, on maintaining a residual force in Iraq, on Iran, and on not negotiating with people we don't like.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:29 AM
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34. Spot on. n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 05:39 AM
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48. Back a way from the ignorance. The PRESIDENT sets the policy, the SoS implements the policy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 05:37 AM
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:40 PM
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10. It sure makes one think doesn't it. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:36 PM
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8. Fuck them. Obama will do what he think's best. nt
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Whoa20 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:43 PM
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12. she is the best candidate
because even the GOP says she's qualified. She has legit made bipartisan alliances in Congress. The GOP is also gonna try to be "cooperative" in these early stages of the Obama Presidency with regard to foreign policy, as theirs was clearly repudiated on November 4th.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:06 PM
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15. No, she is not. The SOS need diplomatic skills
That is not Hillary. She is to in your face.
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Whoa20 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:36 PM
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23. she is known and respected throughout the world
while John Kerry is laughed at for being the guy who lost to Bush. She's been on foreign trips before, and has had international experience as a Senator. Show some honour.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:07 PM
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27. HRC is NOT a team builder. She "plays favorites" ... good as a Senator but not a LEADER or
MANAGER of a large organization. Doubt me? Study her campaign. :thumbsdown:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:52 AM
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41. Kerry is laughed at? You just tipped your hand. "She's been on foreign trips before".
yeah, that's all you need as SoS.

You sure have been all over this one issue since joining. Like a fly on shit.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:45 PM
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13. Hillary is a great target for republicans-She also brings in lots of repug donations, hate, votes
Edited on Sun Nov-16-08 10:28 PM by LaPera
and someone to blame everything on....The republicans love and need a Clinton to trash.

I'm sure they are dying for her to be SoS, I've never seen so many republicans endorse a democrat for a cabinet position before.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:48 AM
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51. Yep, they were falling all over themselves
on the Sunday talking head shows to endorse Hillary. Krauthammer even went as far as to seriously diss Bill Richardson, who I've heard really wants the job.

It might be a strategy on Obama's part to deal with Iraq. If we can successfully disengage from Iraq, and nothing bad happens, his administration gets the credit. On the other hand, if we decide to stay there (or leave and the place erupts into sheer chaos) the blame can be laid on Hillary.
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hangman86 Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:07 PM
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16. This is either ass-kissing at it's maximum or a trap.
It's anything but sincere.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:10 PM
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17. If the repukes want her thats not a good sign
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poetsdream Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:24 PM
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30. I agree
The rule of thumb: if the republicans want it, red flags should go up immediately. And given Bill's 'palling around' with Bush I over the last 2 years, I don't feel Hilary is a good choice. Let her stay in the senate and get some seasoning.
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:12 PM
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19. the sound of one hand clapping
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:24 PM
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20. I would think interviewing Richardson would be an attempt to tamper down "speculation".
I have to wonder why they think she is so qualified. As for Bill, he thinks she is qualified for everything.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:06 PM
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26. I just don't want any more Clintonian Soap Operas. ENOUGH! eom
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Steelworker In OH Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:13 PM
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29. more??
hell this country ran the best it has in 3 decades under Slick Willy, besides, I don't think Hillary will stir up that kind of controversy. I'd like to see her get some kind of position, either cabinet or a judgeship.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:28 PM
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31. The two are not equivalent. I have no respect for a serial adulterer. Would you wish your daughter
working for such a man? HRC has been his co-dependent which IMO is almost as disgusting. :thumbsdown:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:37 AM
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37. God deliver us from the holier than thou crowd!!!!
;(
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:56 AM
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43. No, I don't expect a "holier than thou" President. But he just can't STOP. That's a security risk
Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 12:57 AM by ShortnFiery
if he wishes to pretend to be faithful. If Bill and Hill would declare that their marriage is "open" then, they would live THE TRUTH. But no, he continues to whore hop and she enables him. Hell, she's co-dependent.

That would be none of my business IF Senator Clinton was an average citizen, but if she's to be entrusted with Top Secret ad nauseum sensitive data, I don't want her set-up for BLACKMAIL. :scared: :nuke:

Senator Clinton is a poor Security Risk because her husband can NOT keep his hormones in check. If Bill is filmed and later approached for "a favor" from his wife (SOS), that's a dire "national security" breakdown. :shrug:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:27 AM
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54. Look, there have been a lot of rumors about Bill because they always are,
that's just the way things are with the vultures in the media. Truthfully, I think that he has behaved himself. I'm not saying that he may not flirt here and there because he probably does, that's just his nature. But, I don't think that he has actually cheated since Monica. Heck, even then it was just some BJs, bad enough, but not a full fledged affair like Edwards.

I don't think that you need to worry that Hillary would be blackmailed, she wouldn't submit to it even if they had proof. Who would be shocked to find out Bill with some chick? Not even Hillary.........

;-)
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:44 AM
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56. I agree with everything you wrote.
Further, there is too much Saudi oil money behind Bill's library and speaking engagements and understandings for future favors in exchange for same in the event they assume power once again, so no, I don't trust her.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 02:07 AM
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45. What is it...
...with people like you who obsess over other people's sex lives? Are you not getting enough yourself? This republican-like blather about Bill Clinton's penis borders on the prurient.

Bill Clinton had a girlfriend. So fucking what! I'm 43 and he was the best president we've had since I've been alive. There was no 'drama' under Clinton except when the Republican pig fluffers stirred shit up. In the coming years they are going to do their best to discredit Obama. They will bog him down with all the dirt they can invent. Are you going to blame him as well for the upcoming drama?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:35 AM
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55. Hear, hear!!!
Imagine if Kennedy and a few others had had an independent counsel up their butts for 5 years. And what did they manage to find out after persecuting both Clintons and their staffers? That Bill got some BJs from a more than willing dingbat who chased HIM around. Oh yeah, we got our money's worth out of that investigation.

:eyes:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:28 PM
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21. God help us all!!!
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amitta Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:32 PM
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22. this is is turning into a big deal
Is Obama going to spend his entire term trying to please republicans like Clinton did?
This decision will answer that question.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 10:47 PM
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24. Republicans hate Hillary
Besides, who gives a rats ass what they think? They lost. Obama can do whatever he wants.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:09 PM
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28. They already have "dirt" on Bill Clinton. If HRC scores the SOS it will be ongoing scandals.
Let's not have that action? :(
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:31 PM
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32. "She's got the temperament for it"
BWWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:rofl:
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renman95 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 11:57 PM
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33. Here we go again.
I thought I was getting some change.  I'm seeing more and more
of Clinton Redux.  This is not what I wanted.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:33 AM
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35. The problem is not the Republicans, it's the kooks on the left.
Just look at this board, several people keep opening threads compulsively on this subject and I think that some heads are going to explode before all is said and done.

Quite amusing.........

:popcorn:



:rofl:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:37 AM
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36. Nope, it's the kooks on the right side of the democratic party, like Lanny Davis that
refuse to STFU and make demands before anything is announced. :evilgrin:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:46 AM
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38. Nope
The Repugs are chill with the idea, it's the kooky left that is going into labor over this and I find it highly amusing. I for one am enjoying the drama.

:7
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:49 AM
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39. Newsflash! There's no kooky left: We're mainstream progressives.
:hi:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:51 AM
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40. If you say so.....................
:eyes:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 01:01 PM
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61. Thank You
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 02:46 AM
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46. That would be the kooky left that has been right about everything
from the Iraq occupation, to the election theft of 2004 to FISA and beyond.

Who exactly are you calling a "kook"?
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:27 AM
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49. You beat me too it...
...we could keep going back and make quite a list of things we've been right about - from the Vietnam war on in my living memory alone. I guess it is grimly amusing that somehow we're still always the "loons" and "kooks."
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 01:04 PM
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62. Funny... I Think "Centrist Ideologues" are very Authoritarian
Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 01:05 PM by fascisthunter
wrong about most everything, deluded and complicit when it comes to shitting on the Constitution.

They are the KOOKS!
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:52 AM
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42. Richardson SOS
Hillary Senate Majority Leader!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 01:57 AM
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44. I'm sure they are. She has supported the GOP foreign policy with her actions, if not her words. (nt)
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:32 AM
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50. Interesting ...
Overt right-wing support for Clinton now?
:dilemma:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:50 AM
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52. They loved watching the primary battle drag out
and they imagine that there would be massive infighting between Hillary and Obama during his administration. I don't have enough of a sense to figure out if they're right or wrong on this.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 10:19 AM
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53. I've always said that HRC was the best candidate for the Republicans. n/t
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:02 AM
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58. I'd rather see her replace Reid as Senate Majority Leader
I just like the idea of a black man and two women being in charge of the country. It would piss off conservative white men so much!
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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:16 AM
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59. Me too
But being short on seniority, isn't that a ways down the road?
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 11:25 AM
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60. All the more reason to make a different choice.
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