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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:53 AM
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Boston Globe - There could be another NG report on W
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:54 AM by Jersey Devil
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/02/12/bushs_loss_of_flying_status_should_have_spurred_probe/

Bush's loss of flying status should have spurred probe
By Walter V. Robinson and Francie Latour, Globe Staff, 2/12/2004

President Bush's August 1972 suspension from flight status in the Texas Air National Guard -- triggered by his failure to take a required annual flight physical -- should have prompted an investigation by his commander, a written acknowledgement by Bush, and perhaps a written report to senior Air Force officials, according to Air Force regulations in effect at the time.

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Two retired National Guard generals, in interviews yesterday, said they were surprised that Bush -- or any military pilot -- would forgo a required annual flight physical and take no apparent steps to rectify the problem and return to flying. "There is no excuse for that. Aviators just don't miss their flight physicals," said Major General Paul A. Weaver Jr., who retired in 2002 as the Pentagon's director of the Air National Guard, in an interview.

Brigadier General David L. McGinnis, a former top aide to the assistant secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, said in an interview that Bush's failure to remain on flying status amounts to a violation of the signed pledge by Bush that he would fly for at least five years after he completed flight school in November 1969.

"Failure to take your flight physical is like a failure to show up for duty. It is an obligation you can't blow off," McGinnis said.

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A Sept. 29, 1972, order sent to Bush by the National Guard Bureau, the defense department agency which oversees the Guard, noted that Bush had been verbally suspended from flying on Aug. 1. The written order made it official: "Reason for suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination."

The order required Bush to acknowledge the suspension in writing and also said: "The local commander who has authority to convene a Flying Evaluation Board will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination." After that, the commander had two options -- to convene the Evaluation Board to review Bush's suspension or forward a detailed report on his case up the chain of command.

Either way, officials said yesterday, there should have been a record of the investigation.

The issue of Bush's suspension has been clouded in mystery since it first arose during the 2000 campaign. Dan Bartlett, a Bush campaign aide who is now White House communications director, said then that Bush didn't take the physical because his family physician was in Houston and he was in Alabama. But the examination is supposed to be done by a flight surgeon, and could have been done at the base in Montgomery.

It is unclear whether Bush's commander, Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, ordered any inquiry, as required.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:55 AM
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1. What about "flight pay"?
If he was grounded wouldn't his flight pay be severed?

Was it ever?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:58 AM
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2. hahaha
oh what a tangled web...

this confirms it--not only do they think we're stupid, they used Snotty to spar for them, when he didn't have the whole truth...Poor Snotty! Back to work today trying to wrangle those reporters!
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:01 AM
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3. At last! we come to the meat of it all
he didn't take the physical--why? why wasn't anything done about? was he on drugs? we are now getting closer and closer to the ugly truth about * and his druggie days.
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Fla_Dem Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:09 AM
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4. All of this is coming out too soon
It will be forgotten by November. This stuff should wait until July/August, and nail the SOB in the middle of his campaign to get re-appointed.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:16 AM
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7. * has too many plates spinning - they'll come crashing down one by one
Plenty of scandal yet to bring him down:

Cheney/Plamegate
Cheney/Halliburton
9/11 Commission (6 Aug 2001 PDB)
Iraq albatross

Am I missing anything?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:13 AM
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5. There is no short and sweet answer to all of this
and that is Rove's bread and butter.

W is going to have to face this question everyday UNTIL he can actually put it away/to bed. Every excuse opens more quesitons.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:15 AM
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6. Exactly, This is the smoking gun everyone has been ignoring.
This is about the only detail of this whold mystery that everyone agrees on - that Bush failed to take a required flight physical. So far the Bushistas have offered up some weak explanation involving a family doctor - as if that were relevant. When (if) someone figures this out, the whole wall of deceit will come tumbling down, imo. Bush could clear it up with one prime time news conference where he actually answers real (as opposed to staged) questions from reporters. Ther is no way he doesn't remember why he didn't take the physical. This was an important event in his NG service. Not taking the physical meant he no longer could fly. Thus the taxpayers paid to train him and he threw it all down by failing to report for a required physical. Why, Mr. Bush? Inquiring minds want to know.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:17 AM
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8. Absoulutely. As they say it's always the cover up that gets them.
And it looks like some pretty big fish covered up for the Bush boy. That may turn out to be the bigger story.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:17 AM
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9. Oh, man,...the crap is really hittin' the fan now *LOL*!!!
Geez-us!!! No matter how creative the administration gets in spinning,...how will they possibly overcome this information? They cannot do it!!! They are getting exactly what they deserve. Hold 'em to the coals!!!!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:35 AM
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10. Jersey Devil
Please match the title of your post to the title of the article. And please excerpt a maximum of 4 paragraphs. Thanks.

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