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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:14 PM
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Dean says he favors Edwards over Kerry
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040211/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_68

Dean told CBS News in an interview that will air Wednesday night that he believes Edwards would be the better candidate in the general election, even though Kerry has the advantage right now.

"My fear is that he actually won't be the strongest Democratic candidate," Dean told the network.

Asked about Dean's comment, Edwards told reporters: "I agree with that. I think that he is a very wise man. ... The truth is that this campaign to bring about change is working with independents and voters that we will have to get in order to win the general election."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:17 PM
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:20 PM
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3. as the poster below put it:
Bush didn't win his home state of Connecticut.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:36 PM
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7. Edwards didn't go up against an (r) in N.C.
totally different story.

Gore swept the primary season in '00.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:27 PM
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18. A State Primary Is Not an Election
Gore also won the Democratic Primary in Tennessee which would be analogous to Edwards winning the South Carolina Primary.

The State Chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party said on television that no Democrat can beat Bush there...none.

This is why Edwards seems such a dangerous lure for Democrats in seeking either Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate from North Carolina.

Wes Clark could, on the other hand deliver Arkansas.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:19 PM
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2. Dubya didn't win his home state of Connecticut. n/t

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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:20 PM
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4. I agree 100%
But I think Kerry's pretty much got it sewn up at this point. Nobody was even close to him last night. It might be time to get behind him.

Having said that, Dean is the man. He won't win, and its a shame, but he truly shaped this race and gave it the populist feel that all the candidates are now parroting. Dems owe Dean big time.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:20 PM
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5. Did I miss something?
Did Dean drop out and I missed it somewhere????
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:36 PM
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8. Are you serious?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:34 PM
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6. I know I'd never, ever vote for Kerry....
nor will any of my co-workers.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:55 PM
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12. So, if the choice boils down to Kerry and Junior, who will...
...you vote for then? Or do you plan to stay at home and pout instead of getting Junior voted out of the power he stole in 2000?

Maybe you ought to start thinking about the greater good for America instead of posting comments that do nothing to unite the Democratic Party.

JMHO.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:07 PM
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14. Happy Bushco until Jan 20, 2009
What will Amerika look like then?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:26 PM
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20. I wonder how many more countries will be flattened...
...and their resources raped for Repuke donors...
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:18 PM
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15. Why's that
exactly?
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:23 PM
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16. Well, that's really not a problem.
Vote for Bush.

See? Problem solved.

This seemingly insoluable problems go away if you just think it through.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:25 PM
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17. so who are you going to vote for then?
If Kerry wins the primary? People like you really "made their point" in 2000. Three years into the BushCo administration, and thousands of deaths later, all I have to say is, I hope you and your coworkers don't live in a borderline state.
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masshole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:14 PM
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24. and your a nurse?
No candidate has taken a more pro-nurse stand.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nurses/

Throughout his career, John Kerry has proudly stood with and fought for America’s nurses. Kerry teamed with Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime. He co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. And Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Mass. when they were forced to strike for better pay and working conditions. As President, John Kerry will continue to be a tireless advocate for nurses.


Priorities:

End Mandatory Overtime

Ensure Safe Staffing Levels

Combat the Nursing Shortage

Comprehensive Whistle Blower Protection

Strong and Enforceable Rules for a Safe and Healthy Workplace

Fighting for the Right to Choose a Union

Reduce Medication Errors and Stop the Scapegoating of Nurses

Protect Nurses from Workplace Violence

Support Advanced Practice Registered Nurses (APRNs)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:38 PM
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9. WHAT A GROSS MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS
Saying of Kerry, "My fear is that he actually won't be the strongest Democratic candidate," in no way implies a preference of Edwards over Kerry.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:47 PM
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10. Seems pretty accurate to me based on the quotes
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 06:47 PM by Tinoire
In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean urged voters in Wisconsin's primary to stand up against Kerry and other Washington insiders who he said are trying to derail his candidacy. He said he would support the Democratic nominee, but Kerry would be the "lesser of two evils" in a race against President Bush.

<snip>

"What we now see is that John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington," Dean said in an interview. He said he came to that conclusion after learning that former New Jersey Sen. Robert Torricelli contributed to an independent group that ran ads that used images of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to question Dean's ability to combat terrorism if elected president.

<snip>

"The link is unassailable," Dean said. "The same fund-raiser who was ethically challenged and had to step aside from a Senate race because of that raised money from the same donors to support both Senator Kerry and his ... political action group.

"I intend to support the Democratic nominee under any circumstances," Dean said. "I'm just deeply disappointed that once again we may have to settle for the lesser of two evils."
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:14 PM
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22. Being a person who passionately wants substantive change,...
,...I understand exactly why Dean would say something like that with Kerry now being, at least in appearance, fully entrenched in the status quo.

On the other hand, as idealistic as I continue to be, I am pragmatic and patient and believe change more successfully evolves one small step at a time. I can only WISH for the kind of changes that would lead to,...well,...a more just, more democratic, more equal country to happen as quickly as the damage caused by this administration.

But, it doesn't happen that way,...we all know it takes a long-term commitment and persistence and courage and desire. I want Dean and Kucinich and Braun and Sharpton and all those who were inspired by them, to engage in all that is required to make change happen.

I want to see them all kick this regime out of the WH and kick the WH loyalists out of congress. I hope to see us all stay engaged and teaching and inspiring and empowering the American people because,...this is not just a race to the WH,...it is a long-term commitment to our people and our country and our world, and that commitment is forever.

Sorry if I just sounded "preachy". I really am standing on the floor and not behind a raised pedastal *smile*.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:57 PM
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23. What a stretch
Dean says Kerry is part of the corrupt culture in DC. Dean suggests we may have to once again settle for the lesser of two evils and somehow this equates to him saying he prefers Edwards over Kerry. Bullshit.
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:50 PM
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11. Howard...
You could have a standing and a voice in the Democratic Party. You could.. but outbursts like this don't help. The Dems owe you, but not if you spout off in a crazy fashion...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:29 AM
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25. Word. Al Gore needs to reign him in. He's is becoming
a caricature of himself. Has he seen the polls lately? He's in low single digits while Kerry is at 50% plus. His tactics which have not been working, reek of desperation.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:04 PM
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13. Here's the Torricelli stuff.
<snip>
"What we now see is that John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington," Dean said in an interview. He said he came to that conclusion after learning that former New Jersey Sen. Robert Torricelli contributed to an independent group that ran ads that used images of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) to question Dean's ability to combat terrorism if elected president.

Torricelli, who was forced out of office over ethical lapses, is now raising money for Kerry's presidential campaign. Dean said disclosures that money was also raised by backers of Dick Gephardt (news - web sites) show Washington insiders are trying to derail his candidacy.

"The link is unassailable," Dean said. "The same fund-raiser who was ethically challenged and had to step aside from a Senate race because of that raised money from the same donors to support both Senator Kerry and his ... political action group.

"I intend to support the Democratic nominee under any circumstances," Dean said. "I'm just deeply disappointed that once again we may have to settle for the lesser of two evils."
<snip>

That sleaze bag will not get my vote.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:25 PM
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19. pretty dirty
Damn, this is getting to be a really dirty contest. But then I also think about what the country will look like with 4 more years of Bush...*shudder*
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:48 PM
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21. I agree with him 100%!
n/t
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