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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:17 PM
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Unions, Torricelli Finance Anti-Dean Ads
Labor unions, former Democratic Sen. Bob Torricelli and one of presidential hopeful Howard Dean's own donors were among big givers to a group that ran ads criticizing Dean in three early voting states.
Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values raised $663,000 last year and spent $626,840 of it, a finance report provided to The Associated Press on Tuesday showed.

The group spent $15,000 on an ad aired in South Carolina and New Hampshire that showed a picture of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and said Dean, former Vermont governor, didn't have the experience needed to take on terrorism.

The group aired two anti-Dean ads in Iowa, the first state to hold a delegate contest. One criticized Dean's history of endorsements by the gun industry's National Rifle Association, and the other blasted his support for the North American Free Trade Agreement and said he supported cuts to Medicare. Together, those ads cost $485,000.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040211_654.html
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:24 PM
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1. Yep, I Heard This On Limbaugh Of All Places - Way Ta Go Dems !!!
I think I might just withdraw my support for ABB, and make the Dems earn it back. If that's possible.

Assholes!!!

:grr::nuke::mad:

Now we know what the Dem party does with their corrupt ex-office holders. 'The Torch' is now a goon for the DLC.

Not so UNFUCKING BELIEVEABLE!!!

:puke:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:53 PM
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8. I'm way ahead of you on this issue.
I have been a dedicated democrat all my life......as was my father who took me to rallies as a baby. They, the DLC/DNC will have to earn my dedication from this day forward.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:25 PM
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2. Hmmmmmm....why am I not surprised?
gin
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:34 PM
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3. does this mean some Dean supporters funded the ad in order to play victim?
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 05:35 PM by codegreen
i'm not quite understanding this... was this all done to help drive a wedge between 'the democratic establishment' and the outraged disenfranchised youth vote?

someone was playing dirty politics here, some are pointing at Kerry but i don't think that's really the answer... maybe we'll never know

Edit: nevermind i totally misread that
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:41 PM
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6. No, it simply means that some people cover all the bases.
It is not unusual for companies without a clear political tie to give to both parties.

What is clear is that the union's backed this effort to the hilt. They include several labor unions: The International Longshoremen's Association, Laborers International Union and International Association of Machinists, which gave $50,000 each; the International Association of Ironworkers, $25,000; and the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, $5,000.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:37 PM
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4. Wonder Why Sleezy Torricelli Chose Howard Dean to Attack?
I wonder why that sleezy and disgraced Bob Torricelli chose Howard Dean to smear and falsely associate with Osam bin Laden? Why not Dick Gephhardt, John Kery or John Edwards?
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:39 PM
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5. Nearly all the group's donors were backers of Gephardt.
They include several labor unions: The International Longshoremen's Association, Laborers International Union and International Association of Machinists, which gave $50,000 each; the International Association of Ironworkers, $25,000; and the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, $5,000.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:42 PM
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7. The one also donating to Dean was probably just hedging his bet
or her bet.
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:59 PM
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9. Ugh!
Doesn't this remind anyone of that horseshit ad ran by Saxby Chambliss's (R-GA) campaign against Max Cleland during the 2002 election?

http://www.capitaleye.org/spec_GA.asp
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:09 PM
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10. It's The EXACT Same Thing !!! --- Shame On Them All !!!
Fuck...

:puke:
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:27 PM
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11. can you hear me now?
that just seemed appropriate at the moment


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12. Dupe... locking
Please continue discussion within the original LBN thread on this topic, which can be found here:

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