Cuomo Warns Dems: Don't Call Bush a Liar

[kskiska]

Former Gov. Mario Cuomo advised Democratic presidential candidates who voted in favor of the war in Iraq to refrain from accusing President Bush of lying about the circumstances that led to military action.

"If you start calling him a liar then what he has to do is go to that microphone and say, 'It breaks my heart. I made a mistake, there's no question about it. I did not lie, and I want you to believe me, and I'm your president,"' Cuomo said Tuesday. "I wouldn't risk it."

Speaking at an event sponsored by the Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee, a group of Democratic women involved in New York politics, Cuomo said the candidates should opt for a more conciliatory approach.

According to Cuomo, candidates who supported the war should tell the public: "We looked at the same intelligence (President Bush) did, and it fooled us the way it fooled (him). Shame on us. We should have looked harder. We're sorry. We'll get rid of the old intelligence team and put in a new one and do what we have to do."

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[AZCat]

1. Liar! Liar! Liar!

Boosh is a Liar!
(there, I said it) :)

[Sugarbleus]

32. Rofl! you tell 'em AZcat! ;o) n/t

[roscoeroscoe]

72. the eternal question~~~ stupid or evil? or both??

that's always summed it up with regard to bush when i talk with people.

[dennis4868]

2. it fooled us the way it fooled (him)....

WTF? Is the former governor on drugs or something. How the hell does Cuomo know that Bush was fooled and was not the one repsonsible for fooling all of us, including congress?

Cuomo is one of the reasons our party has been spineless in the past. The hell with him....we will move on without him. Cuomo is yesterdays news.....

[benfranklin1776]

17. Yep. "Conciliatory" No thanks that is a recipe for disaster,

Witness the 2002 midterms. There is no conciliation with a group of extremists such as this group of neoconartists. As Krugman and others have rightfully pointed out, they are radicals. They do not share our core values and beliefs and, indeed, are committed to destroying them. Thus it is a fatal mistake to deal with them as you would a more rational adversary with whom you have a simple honest disagreement about policy details but otherwise share common values. There is simply no common ground to be found with this group of extremists.

[Just Me]

66. Yes, radicals do make the possibility reconciliation near impossible.

Extremists refuse to look outside their own box. They refuse to play by the rules. They refuse to move towards necessary compromise for the benefit of that society greater and bigger than them. They obstruct any possibility of negotiation because they simply don't believe in negotiating.

This guy needs to be brought up to speed on the real world tactics of these radical ideologues.

[KansDem]

73. "They refuse to move towards necessary compromise..."

I remember when Newt seized power in 1994 hearing him say "We will cooperate, but we will not compromise." And I thought "What??? I thought compromise was essential for a democracy. Of course, that was 10 years ago and A LOT of things have change since..."

[CBHagman]

86. And Gingrich looks like a moderate in retrospect.

Yes, there was that business with shutting down the government AND impeaching Clinton, though not the same year. Gingrich eventually paid the price for those, but we shouldn't figure that history will repeat itself and that, for instance, Tom DeLay will step down.

After Florida, the Valerie Plame incident, the claims about Ken Lay supporting Ann Richards, the claims that the tax cuts went mostly to the middle and working class, we should know the following:

Bush and the other current GOP leadership are as ruthless, lying, whorish, selfish, vindictive, slimey, sneaky, shameless, pandering, secretive, and immoral a bunch as we've ever had in office, and that's even considering the Nixon, McCarthy and Iran-contra bunch. They will do literally anything to wrest power and to keep it, and they are not interested in diplomacy, compromise, or bipartisanship (another of Bush's many, many lies).

Bush is a huge liar. He lies so often and so reflexively that a good many people don't notice it.

Bush is insensitive. He's vindictive and selfish and cold. Mario had better look to the knives sticking out of various backs (for example, Max Cleland's) before he intones any more on this misadministration and its infernal leader.

Someday people will spit and sneer at the very mention of George W. Bush's name. Let's do our part to hasten the day.

[calimary]

41. Still trying to make nice-nice with the republi-CONS, I see.

We saw in 2002, the hard way, that this strategy was as much a miserable failure as bush is. NO! We DO NOT do ANYTHING that, IN ANY WAY, sounds like we sort of agreed with bush or thought he had a good point, or ANYTHING CONCILIATORY!!!!! NOTHING!!! NO WAY!!!! We were fooled like bush was fooled? Uh, HELLO, MARIO!!! Are we supposed to all lump ourselves in the same "miserable failure" barrel as bush? That starts sounding like - we got the same bad intelligence he did, boo-hoo on all of us together. Him too.

YEOWWWW!!! ABSOLUTELY the wrong thing to do. I hope nobody listens to him about this. Because that will only feed into the arguments of those who say we Dems are no different than the republi-CONS.

What the hell is he smoking?

[dusty64]

60. Ya that strategy

has been working beautifully for the Democrats so far.

[Gin]

78. Why then were some "fooled" and not others? That statement by Cuomo

doesn't cut it with me. If we won't say * lied...better have some other valid explanation.

[Corgigal]

3. Shame on us. We should have looked harder

Yep, just FedEX that reason to the families of the dead so they can put in their scrapbooks.

[hlthe2b]

4. I don't get Cuomo's point.... It seems like he's saying we should let Bush

off the hook... Damn it that's what we've done for three years and look where it got us! Why would the public, who is increasingly angry at Bush's policies, support Dems, if we won't fight for them?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

5. Where has the "conciliatory approach" gotten us so far?...

Someone needs to tell Cuomo that the rules have changed...the Democrats are completely out of cheeks to be slapped.

[lcordero]

6. Cuomo should go away...PERMANENTLY

[Voltaire99]

49. Yep. He's become a tired, colossal putz. (n/t)

[pink_poodle]

7. These people have no shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -nm

"

[priller]

8. Sorry Mario, I love you man, but you're wrong on this one

Conciliation with the Pukes doesn't work any more.

Besides, Bush will never EVER say, "I made a mistake". Never. He would rather lie and say up is down and black is white than admit to a mistake. So we'll keep pressing him and pressing him and he'll keep lying and lying and the people will see what a goddamn liar he is.

Secondly, Bush and company weren't fooled by intelligence. They had a set agenda and they only wanted evidence that supported their pre-ordained theory.

[calimary]

42. Besides, bush will never say he's sorry for ANYTHING.

[ixion]

9. Being that I never believed him in the first place, and never supported

an invasion:

BUSH IS A LIAR, A THIEF AND A WAR CRIMINAL.

[truthisfreedom]

10. "I wouldn't risk it." sounds like he knows bush lied and has a plan to get

off the hook that all the rethugs will stand behind, while using the CIA as the fall guys. message to cuomo: we Democrats don't give a rat's ass about your lying, theiving party's corrupt schemes. go hose yourselves.

[KissMyAsscroft]

11. He has a point...

Look at Kerry's surge, and he voted for the war.

The polls all showed that Americans wanted someone who voted for the war but was against it now...

I dont understand the logic behind that, but for some reason it works like that with the public.

Either way, the candidates should take the high road but we can still call him a fucking liar.

FUCKING LIAR!

[Enraged_Ape]

23. All Kerry has to say is that he voted for the war...

because Bush LIED to him. It's just that simple. Bush lied to all of us and killed a whole lot of people. It's a horrible goddam shame, and that's the message we need to get out.

[mitchum]

26. That's it exactly, Enraged_Ape

I certainly hope that is Kerry's strategy. It will resonate.

[leesa]

75. Not entirely all... he should have known their was no evidence

We did, and it sounds like they didn't get any more "evidence" than we have heard the liars spew since the beginning. Doesn't Kerry do his job and read international news and talk with people who know these things. Blix was saying it was doubtful there was anything. The CIA was saying it was doubtful there was anything. Kerry didn't do his job. Even HE said it was wrong and then turned around and voted for the war. I remember watching his little speech before the vote and it was disgusting.

[LiberalFighter]

12. Gee... I wonder if he voted for bush*

[cprise]

13. Risk it! The reply should be:

"Then you are fantastically incompetent."

[kanrok]

14. Liar , liar pants on fire

There. Fool me once...shame on...shame on...me. Fool me twice....ain't gonna be fooled agin'. Ah, hell...how'm I gonna put food on my family?

[bvar22]

15. Well, if bush* is not a LIAR,

then he is the most INCOMPETENT leader this country has ever had!!! Thousands of people are DEAD..DEAD...DEAD...DEAD.

There are only two explanations:

1) Willful Deceit
or
2) Gross Incompetence and Dereliction of Duty.

A man with a conscience would step down.

[Sugarbleus]

36. Bingo! bvar...that's my exact feeling on

this issue also. He's either an evil bastard or a stupid S.O.B.

Either way, the guy has to go!! There is NO,NADA, ZIP,ZERO excuse for what Bush has done and not done.

[amber dog democrat]

16. when has the chimp ever been truthful?

I don't get it. What is wrong with calling him a liar?
I mean, that is what he is.

Why defend a corrupt president?

[maggrwaggr]

18. maggrwaggr warns Cuomo: lack of balls will make you fat

shut up, Cuomo.

[benfranklin1776]

19. ROFLOL! Good one!

And quite true.

[Enraged_Ape]

20. Can any DUer name just 3 things this dweeb ever told the truth about...

having to do with national policy or his own administration? I wracked my brain about this tonight and couldn't even come up with ONE!!

This lying sack of shit prevaricates about EVERYTHING. Even stupid stuff, like how athletic he is or how even how tall he is. I swear to God that this bastard has never told the truth about anything in his life!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

71. My first thought was that he's truthful when he says stuff like

"I'll be in New Hampshire next week." But then I remembered that he told the press something like that before he did his inedible turkey photo-op in Iraq.


Pretty much all lies, all the time.

[jburton]

21. Is that President Cuomo or Sup. Ct. Justice Cuomo?

Oh that's right, it's niether.

It's not 1992 anymore. Hasn't he figured it out yet?

[PartyPooper]

22. Perhaps, he would rather be a bit more subtle with a "lie detector" test

for Junior. Either way, Shrub goes down in flames. Big time!

:kick:

[mitchum]

24. And how long did it take Hamlet to ruminate before arriving...

at this sage advice? You're very old news, Mario.

[Emillereid]

25. Is Cuomo on crack -- that's a recipe for disaster.

The Dems should say that the Bushits led them to believe there was a threat and that he would go to the UN to deal with it, but that he decided to short circuit the UN inspections and forgo international support so he go to Iraq to steal the oil. Obviously the fool didn't reckon on the Iraqis having other ideas -- and so now we're in another quagmire. The Dems should take Kucinich's position on this -- US out, UN in. As long we're there the Iraqis will resist.

[The_Casual_Observer]

27. Sure thing Mario Asso

This is the guy who is famous for being able to give one speech at a democratic convention. It is amazing that the media & others have given this spineless asshole a free ride ever since. It's like making a big deal over some guy who made one hit record 30 years ago. He is a completely irrelevant fossil.


I wouldn't care at all about this nitwit or what he thinks, except that his advice on this is morally wrong and absurd. Bush was, in fact, a part of one of the most insidious plots ever conceived to drag a nation into the illegal invasion , occupation and genocide of a sovereign country for the purpose of stealing their natural resources and obtaining a base of operations in the middle east. He needs to be charged with this crime, convicted and dealt with accordingly.

[fearnobush]

28. I think Cuomo needs to have a little chat with Joe Wilson

and his former CIA opp. wife on this one. I think Wilson would apply smelling salts to Cuomo on this one. His point though, not to use the word lie, say embellished, or distorted, or manipulated. Personally, I like Sexed Up, Fu**in' felon is more like it though.

[Johnyawl]

29. Cuomo never did have any balls

If he had, he would have been the Democratic nominee in 1988. I can remember everybody holding their breath for months waiting for that asshole to make up his mind.

No guts, no glory. That's Cuomo. If Kerry starts taking advice from him, we're doomed.

[nofurylike]

48. when you guys gonna get it that balls is why we're all in this sh*t? n/t

[Lars39]

30. Anybody remember him suing Palast?

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=304&row=1

[nolabels]

84. That sure was nice of you to point that out :-)

Taking the liberty to paste up a little, thanks again :-)

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=304&row=1
Mario Cuomo Sues Author Palast for $15 million
FOX v. AL FRANKEN REDUX?
Wednesday, December 17, 2003
(snip)
As to Cuomo's complaint, Palast said, "I'm not infallible; if I made a mistake on the facts, I'll correct it. But in this case, I'm right on the facts. Cuomo's attempt to censor reports published in the public interest will not intimidate me. Thankfully, I have the support of my publisher."

The dispute centers on the period when Palast was chief investigator in the Suffolk County, New York, government's successful prosecution of the civil racketeering case against the builders of the Shoreham nuclear plant. Long Island electricity customers received approximately $400 million in compensation in settlement of the civil case brought after Palast's discovery of alleged frauds. Palast's report regards then-Governor Cuomo's involvement in that 1988 litigation.

"The real issue," said Palast, "is the right of a reporter to write the facts to the best of his knowledge free of the fear of financially ruinous lawsuits and intimidation."

Palast, recipient of the Financial Times David Thomas Prize and winner of Britain's 'story of the year' for his undercover investigation of Prime Minister Tony Blair, previously won accolades from Cuomo. Palast received a mounted pen from Cuomo's signing of the Long Island Power Authority Act which put the owner of Shoreham out of business.
(snip)

In decades past people like Cuomo would have been drumed out of town for contempt on the public trust. Today large corporate owned media outlets brain wash most of the populaton into thinking protecting large corporations is the public trust. They give sway and airtime to these Cuomo types that can con public into thinking things are okay and all good.

Somebody please turn that crap off, please :argh:

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[Prodemsouth]

Maybe he is a Hillary-ite and thinks we should give Bush a complete

pass- that is give him another term and and wait for Hillary in 08- lets see if Hubby comes to rescue Bush too. Even a Republican reminded me of Clinton coming to Bush's defense on this intellegence thing last spring. Tell these people to get out the fucking way we are not waiting for Hillary.

[Prodemsouth]

33. Maybe he is a Hillary-ite and thinks we should give Bush a complete

pass- that is give him another term and and wait for Hillary in 08- lets see if Hubby comes to rescue Bush too. Even a Republican reminded me of Clinton coming to Bush's defense on this intellegence thing last spring. Tell these people to get out the fucking way we are not waiting for Hillary.

[peterh]

34. Bull*cough*shit….

What Congress saw is what this friggin’ administration wanted them to see….they had total control on the content of the briefings supplied….those that controlled OSP, controlled the intel….Mario, go back to fucking sleep….you’re just one of too many friggin “comfortable” demos that would rather play it safe than call a spade a spade….time has past you bye….next…

[The Zanti Regent]

35. What is his problem with Greg Palast?

Why is Cuomo suing Palast for 15 million?

[Lars39]

37. Link to article explaining.....

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=304&row=1

[Sugarbleus]

40. Thanks for the heads up on that link...I just got a bulletin from

Palast website regarding a fundraiser for him.

[0007]

53. I don't understand why? Doesn't make sense.

And putting lawsuits against Al Franken and Greg Palast. What in the world is wrong with Mario these days. Must be getting old and senile.

[daleo]

38. Because Bush might say, "I didn't lie, I'm just stupid"

All his opponents should say "We are stupid, just like he is. We are all sorry for being stupid. Now please elect us."

Brilliant strategy.

[scarface2004]

39. hey liar!

i m talkin to you..yeah you!!!

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

43. Hmmmm, I think that kind of namby-pamby shit is why we did

not nominate him once or twice, right?

[flaminbats]

44. this is why Cuomo never became President...

people must be extremely pissed to be willing to vote against the incumbent. Now voters are pissed about shrub's huge spending increases, this miserable economy, and about his numerious failures to protect America from deadly attack!

Republicans won votes in 2000 by screaming about charecter and honesty, why should this band of hypocrites be allowed to own this issue when our nation's entire future is in danger:wtf:

[Dogmudgeon]

45. Between Cuomo's lines

Cuomo says (and I paraphrase): "Be nice to Bush. Cut him a little slack. Pull your punches. Leave some room for doubt."

The Golden Opportunity: The rank-and-file takes the gloves off and beats the hell out of Team Bush -- and keeps the candidate off the hook.

This is an opening for a "pincer attack" where the Candidate comes off like Mr. Wholesome, and the grassroots do the dirty work.

Just like the 'Publican Party does it.

I, for one, am not averse to getting a little dirt and a little blood under my fingernails.

Sometimes, Man's Best Friend is a very ugly, very nasty, very dangerous dog who strains at the leash just enough to put the fear of Gawd into the bad guy.

--bkl
Arf!

[DemoTex]

46. Hymn, hymn, hmmmmmmmm

Fuck hymn , mmmmmmmmm

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

59. Demo... sometimes our wavelenth convergence is just too scary

[Solly Mack]

47. lololololololol

and some people will applaud this...


choke on shit john and jane q public...we were fooled..it's not our fault...oh,and that 500 plus dead?..well..darn...we sure are torn up about it but gosh dangit, we wuz fooled....just plain duped...


some strategy...alas, lololol.. some americans will buy it...buy into it...and even embrace it...

[Voltaire99]

50. Cuomo's advice is poison

The Dems have Bush on the run, and the best Cuomo can advise is, "Please be nice to him"?

Off to the nursing home with you, governor, you appeaser.

[Snappy]

51. Ofice of Special Plans

Guess he hasn't heard about that. He is out of touch.

[UpInArms]

52. I don't think that this is a "winning" strategy

for anything:

"If you start calling him a liar then what he has to do is go to that microphone and say, 'It breaks my heart. I made a mistake, there's no question about it. I did not lie, and I want you to believe me, and I'm your president,"' Cuomo said Tuesday. "I wouldn't risk it."

So the f*** what? So the lying chimpboy apologizes about lying? He would smirk all the way through his "apology". Who the hell will believe that?

And how would they know if they saw the "same" evidence - what they "saw" was cherrypicked by this LIAR!

*Co has absolutely no credibility here. For the Congress to give him any is a huge mistake. Cuomo needs to go join the pukes and show what he really is - what a friggin' pig of a thing he is.

:puke:

[LynneSin]

54. How can Cuomo "vote in favor of the war"

He's an ex-governor - he can't vote for anything except elections for candidates.

He can support the war, but he never voted for it.

[DrBB]

55. Classic Dem failure strategy

We don't attack his credibility, we die, pure and simple. Cuomo wants us to run on "We'll do a better job of fixing the intell apparatus!" Bullshit. Feeble. Lame. No one will buy it and no one will care.

I fear Kerry has a lot of the same elder-statesman, Senatorial, conciliatory impulses. If he listens to advice like this, we're doomed.

[quaker bill]

56. This is exactly the problem with nominating an IWR supporter

"We looked at the same intelligence (President Bush) did, and it fooled us the way it fooled (him). Shame on us. We should have looked harder. We're sorry. We'll get rid of the old intelligence team and put in a new one and do what we have to do."

It takes the issue of the war and the mis-leading running up to the war completely off the table. It flushes our best issue.

Cuomo is right on this. If we run an IWR supporter, the most we can hope for is a new director of central intelligence out of the entire issue.

Only an outsider who didn't read the intelligence and didn't vote for the war can truly stand up to Bush* on this issue.

Thanks Mario

[Ganja Ninja]

57. How about Fibber or Truth Mangler?

Or we could soften it a bit by calling him an incompetent idiot who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

[DemonFighterLives]

58. Never back off of the Shrub

Place all the blame squarely on Bush and OSP and Cheney with his "stovepipe of intelligence". I still don't see why Kerry and the others didn't take a little stroll on the internet and find some information on their own. It seems many people here were miles ahead of Bushco and congress et al.

[koopie57]

61. hey cuomo

blow it out your ass! and for goodness sake, stop doing those cheap drugs.

[snippy]

62. Cuomo seems to think that the Iraq lies are the only lies Bush has told.

In fact, Bush incessantly and compulsively lies about everything.

Bush did not have sex with that Guard unit and the Bush administration did not reveal the identity of a CIA operative but the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 commission since democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans and government spending has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending but the boxes were labeled "Made in USA" even though the $400 billion decorative medicare turkey was not labeled $525 billion and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an urgent but not imminent threat Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the aircraft carrier was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which could hit the US and some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 but everyone got a tax cut which allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with flower program related activities because Bush and Rice did not ignore the August 6, 2001 intelligence briefing warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks and that is why Bush wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

There is no subject so shallow, serious, or somber that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that Bush can not do.

Ridiculing Bush over his incessant lying needs to become commonplace.

[johnfunk]

63. Old, indecisive has-been Mario Cuomo to Dems: Put on pink tutus!

Yeah, right, Mario, you ineffectual codger.

Bush lied, people died.

Message to Mario: grow a pair.

[leesa]

64. Nope. No more of this B.S. He lied and the proof is easy to

produce.
Cuomo to Dems: "Nice little Dem. Just sit still and smile while he rapes your ass. We gets lots of cash out of this racket so don't blow it for us."

The candidates who supported it should have the courage and the morality to admit they were wrong or they should be candidates for a treason trial as well.

[sendero]

65. Mario who? n/t

.

[Warren Stuart]

67. Did Mario wake up with a horse head in his bed?

After the way he was savaged in '94, he's now saying that Democrats should be conciliatory? WTF?

You don't win fights by taking punches, and refusing to fight back. You can only win fights by fighting back.

Sorry Mario, you're wrong. Now please go away and shut up.

[rhino91063]

68. He is a dinosaur from a bygone era

This sort of gentlemanly politics is what the Republicans thrive on. They count on the Democrats being restrained and being the better person. They on the other hand are not restrained by ethics or morals, so they have been able to kick Democratic ass. Unfortunately for the good of the country, the Democrats have to take off their jackets, roll up their sleeves and get down and dirty with the repubs. Dean has shown the party the way back and most are smart enough to follow.

[MoonAndSun]

69. Mario is part of the Dem establishment. They always want to play

nice, even after what they did to Bill & Hillary. We are sick of playing nice, Mario. Nice gets you 4 more years of bush* and a larger repuke-controlled congress.

This is BS.

[The Stranger]

70. Bullshit, Cuomo.

We should say "we looked at the same intelligence he did, and saw all of these qualifiers and questions and caveats and thought it would be better to act judiciously and reasonably and not send the country to war unprovoked, a war that has cost us the lives of over 500 young men and women all based on a lie. Bush rushed to war, has us stuck in a quagmire similar to Vietnam, destroyed the economy with special interests and massive record-breaking unprecedented deficit spending, and has attacked the civil liberties of every single American -- all based on a pack of lies."

Then add something like: "Bush is a liar."

Or, better yet: "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

Well, maybe not that, but you get the picture.

[MrTriumph]

74. Tell it like it is!

For crying out loud. What has energized the Dem. base are (some) Democratic candidates that speak their mind and tell it like it is.

If Dem.s go soft on W., it will be a repeat of the 2002 mid-term.

And if Dick Gep. & Martin Frost had opposed Bush instead of taking the "safe" course, 2002 would have been a different story and the country would have been much better off.

[NashVegas]

76. My God, He's Lost It

I loved Cuomo when he was my governor, but he's sooooooo wrong!

What he should have said:

"Don't call Bush a liar. Say, 'I was mislead by the intellgence, too,' while you use manufactured outrage to fight for a congressionally-appointed, independent task force or prosecutor at the same time."

[Terwilliger]

77. Cuomo's a nice guy, but he never won the presidency

We've caught the bastard in a nultitude of lies. Now is NOT the time to let up on it. Republicans base their entire political perspective on the belief that Republicans can do no wrong. When they do something wrong, it's always spun away and the sheePukes go right on believing in the infallibility of their boy.

With this AWOL business looming large, and the fact that Republicans do so well onthe issues of national security, it's about damn time the Democrats go for the throat and they don't let go out of some bleeding-heart attitude of "can't we all just get along?" No, we can't...not until the right-wing steamroller has been obliterated.

When the country is no longer polarized, we can go back to emphasizing merit and issues...right now, it's about George W. Bush the inept, unsuccessful, lying bumbler who shirked his duties to our nation on more than one occasion.

[htuttle]

79. Don't call him a liar, or a moron, or a cheat...

...and DEFINITELY don't call him the illiterate offspring of a whore and a trained pony (to paraphrase Gen. Washington).

It's not nice.

Remember, as Chretien emphasized, Bush is NOT a moron. :evilgrin:

[RFKHumphreyObama]

80. I am greatly and profoundly disappointed in ex-Governor Cuomo

I would have thought he would know better than to provide the above statement. Giving * a free pass is going to get the Democrats nowhere.

It was often said that the Bush team was hoping that Cuomo would secure the 1992 Democratic presidential nomination because they would absolutely have a field day. I have never believed this -I always put it down to propaganda from the RW-but, judging from statements such as the one above, they may have had a point

[K8-EEE]

81. Cuomo Is An AssClown...Suing Greg Palast!

He is suing Greg Palast for TRUE statements he made about him....just intimidating him, trying to put the lid on investigative journalism IMO.

Whatever he says, do the opposite.

[TheDonkey]

82. Is this a spoof???? WHAAAAAA???!!!??!

That's ridiculous. All of it. Is Cuomo suffering from a coma.

[fob]

83. You are right Mario, the candidates shouldn't have to call bush*

the liar he is. You and the other high profile dems should be doing it daily! Hey Mario, call Al Gore for the correct script, you seem to have one from many years back.

bush* = LIAR!

[Bandit]

85. He is a LIAR on so many different things that he would have a very

hard time excusing all of them as a mistake. Who wrote Laura's Intimate Love Poem that calls her "That Lump in the Bed"? Was that a mistake also?