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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:09 AM Original message |
Cuba expects new US president to lift embargo |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree, how do you re-inject Democracy and Capitalism into an otherwise pure society |
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Barack4Ever (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. nope |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who were the other two ? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Close! Palau, Marshall Islands, and Micronesia! |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It's good that the soy will planted |
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bluebutterfly (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. UN vote |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. So, Israel says the Cuban state has no right to exist. What irony! |
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Wabbajack_ (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. No |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Cuba can not expect the U.S. to lift the embargo using |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. If you're referring to his audacity in bringing up hunger and disease, you should realize |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Judi, I don't agree with the blockade per se. But the |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Here are some photos of signs in Cuba which may help: |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. That isn't "asking nicely". |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I have high hopes that I'll be able to finally visit Cuba. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. No need to wait. It is very easy to go to Cuba. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Can you give an example of what Cuba has to do to or say to "ask nicely"? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I'm not justifying Cuba needing to ask nicely. I'm saying |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. technically Pres. Carter broke the ice |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. He can't go as far as Carter could. There has been a myriad of new laws/sanctions created since then |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yes, I agree with you. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. One would think that a good reason to be on friendly terms. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yea, Cuba has the United States on its knees. |
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bluebutterfly (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. US hypocrisy re: Cuba |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. . |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well it's at the very least passive aggressive. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. normal trade relations can only help us at this point |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. They're also the best possible means of actually affecting "change" inside Cuba. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. One change the US would seek is to take away |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Highest literacy rates in Latin America, lowest infant mortality, yet Bush and the right-wing |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Classic Shock Doctrine. The US's "Cuba Transition Plan" is waiting on the shelf for the "right time" |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. We trade with china and viet nam, send food aid to n.korea, have normalized |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Big news: Comcast is lowering the cost of calling Cuba! |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. Good. (nt) |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-30-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think Obama will negotiate the rules back to the Clinton days |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
25. Repressive regimes on the left and on the right need each other. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Cubans need for the right-wing loons in the United States to stay out of their business, to stop |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 05:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Cubans need the U.S. rightwing to get out of their business, agreed. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If Cubans don't have the discourse you lament them not having then ... |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. My family members who lived there tell a different story. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The scenarios you describe were during the "special period" - post collapse of the USSR. |
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yy4me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
26. The end of this embargo is long overdue. The people of Cuba |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. it would help the economy of south florida tremendously nt |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. S Florida economy be damned, say Ileana Ros and the Lincoln Diaz brothers. |
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Barack4Ever (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-31-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. wow |
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fla nocount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
37. Someday, maybe 2012, we'll elect someone progressive... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
39. Mojitos all around! |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Whatever you do, DO NOT USE BARCARDI RUM for those Mojitos! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Thanks for the pointer to links, like this one from the top of the list: |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
45. Perhaps they are beting on a Cynthia McKinney win |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. There are even Republicans in Congress who would vote for removing instruments of the |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The Democrats running against the Diaz-Balart brothers to not favor ending the embargo |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. They have survival interests at heart in the area the FBI designated "Terror Capital of the U.S." |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. How does that for an end of the embargo? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-01-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Responding to YOUR remark about the 2 Cubans and 1 Colombian running against the a-holes |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I'm sure you've noticed that Debbie Wasserman Schultz won't campaign against IR-L nor the D-B bros |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
52. Why does a communist country... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
54. miami herald ? lol. Doesn't "Cuba" know it will take an Act Of Congress to lift the embargo ? |
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