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crissy71 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:09 AM
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History's JFK Documentary Under Probe
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The History Channel has assembled a panel of historians to "examine the credibility" of suggestions made in a recent documentary that Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=4&u=/nm/20040210/tv_nm/television_history_dc
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:13 AM
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1. Good! This needs to be laid to rest, once and for all...
Barr McClellan's motives for making the claim are highly suspect (given who's father he is...)
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:30 PM
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2. ABP = "Anyone but Poppy".....hey! Look over there!!!
I say we investigate the bush ties to the Kennedy assassination, as well.

The only person IN THE WORLD, who was alive and fully conscious on that day, who DOESN'T remember "where he was", is Poppy Bush.

They'd love nothing more than to start pointing fingers at a Democrat...LBJ.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ WAS involved. He was scum, in so many ways. But the circle around the JFK assassination was much wider than we'll hear about (in the main news) in our lifetimes.
:kick:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 12:37 PM
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3. If you get the opportunity, read "Texas in the Morning" by Madeleine...
...Brown. She reveals in the book what LBJ told her the evening before JFK's assassination. She mentions several prominant names that were present at a get-together that night to which LBJ arrived late.

Oh, by the way, she was one of LBJ's numerous mistresses, and also had a child fathered by LBJ.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:07 PM
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5. I saw that documentary
and thought it was pretty eyebrow raising. That most of the "evidence" that indicated LBJ at the very least knew more than he let on, came from his mistress which I'm sure LBJ's family is pretty distressed about. Another case of "sullying" the reputation of an on-the-surface "upstanding" politician no doubt. The other implication was his owing mob figures for backroom dealing which was on the way to being exposed is a troubling link no matter which way you look at it. Deny it as they will, there were too many things in that series of documentaries that made so much sense to me.
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crissy71 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:23 PM
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10. Another weird thing is
None of the news reports so far have talked about the fingerprint evidence allegedly implicating LBJ

Mac Wallace was a "Johnson henchman" who, according to McClellan's book, went to jail for murdering LBJ's sister but got out early on parole - Wallace was an old friend of LBJ's. It was the left little finger of Wallace and latent print #29 on box "A" from the "sniper's nest" on the sixth floor of the book depository that print expert A. Nathan Darby of the Austin, Texas Police Department found a match for.

This link talks about the corresponding FBI fingerprint analysis
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_Issue/mac_update....

link to Darby's affadavit
http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/24th_Issue/darby.html
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:02 PM
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4. The History Channel is a terrible disappointment
"The Weapons of World War II Channel" is what it should be called. Rarely any programming worth watching, and I am a big-time, read nothing else (some science) history buff. They need to fire some people over there.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:14 PM
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6. Well, they don't always have documentary footage
of Nazi weapons plants on the Hitler Channel.

Sometimes they air wacko conspiracy theories.

And that's exactly what they did in this case. What a shame.
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:19 PM
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7. "The Hitler Channel"
I thought I was the only one to call it that.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:22 PM
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9. I am surprised
that because they slammed LBJ you are calling them Nazi. Sadly corruption has claim to politicians on both sides of the aisle.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:35 PM
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11. ???
I'm not accusing them of being Nazis, I'm accusing them of talking about nothing but the Nazis on 90% of their specials. You turn on the History Channel and only see Nuremberg rallies and ME-109 production lines.

The special in question is rare in that it doesn't talk about the Second World War. In fact, its a lot worse. Because it shamelessly avoids facts in an attempt to appeal to the sensibilities of conspiracy theorists. There's no evidence at all that LBJ had anything to do with the Kennedy assasination, and the folks over at the History Channel know that. But they know that sensationalism sells, and they seem to have had no compuction about slandering a President of the United States in the gravest form possible, just so they could sell a few more ads. That's irresponsible.

Sadly corruption has claim to politicians on both sides of the aisle.

What are you talking about?
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crissy71 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:47 PM
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12. what are your thoughts on the fingerprint match
for Mac Wallace - the FBI claims it wasn't a match but offered no documentation to back it up

to me, all the other stuff is a sideshow - if they can place Wallace on the 6th floor book depository I'd say that's pretty hard to explain away

As much as I'd hate to believe it was LBJ (and to believe Scott McClelland's father - to me the most troubling connection in all of this), if the fingerprint evidence is as true as it seems, it's only a matter of time before a consensus emerges
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:56 PM
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13. Um
1. There is no evidence he had anything to do with the assasination.

2. There is no evidence he had anything to do with Lyndon Johnson.

Other than that, I'm convinced.
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crissy71 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:09 PM
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14. Granted I'm no expert
But I did watch the HC show and there seemed to be a lot of evidence that Wallace and LBJ were connected,

and as for the evidence linking Wallace to the assasination, here's a link to the affadvit that matched his fingerprint to one found at the 6th floor of the book depository

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/24th_Issue/darby.html

The FBI claims there is no fingerprint match but offer no documentation to back it up - here's a link to that info
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_Issue/mac_update....



I'd love to see hard evidence that refute's this
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:20 PM
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8. Not surprising that war is
highlighted - sadly it also comprises much of our history books in a much too glorified manner. When war ceases to be the moneymaking boom for those that wield influence, eating up so much of our federal budget, I imagine then it may become less important.
As much as I detest war, I have learned a great deal about the real truth from documents released, versus what we have been told by politicians of the day, especially relating to relatively recent times of WW1, WW2, & vietnam from germany, russa, china & the US. Issues surrounding events leading to WW1 and mistaken actions taken in the subsequent years, go a long way to explain the messes that we are still in today. As has been said many times, if we fail to learn the mistakes of history we are doomed to repeat them.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:15 PM
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15. how could all of those people just HAPPEN to be meeting in Dallas that nig
just because JFK was in town?

Why was Hoover, LBJ, and Nixon at this gathering?
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