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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:10 PM
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House GOP leader asks Bush to cut off ACORN funds
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republican leader John Boehner on Wednesday urged President Bush to block all federal funds to a grass-roots community group that has been accused of voter registration fraud.

"It is evident that ACORN is incapable of using federal funds in a manner that is consistent with the law," Boehner, R-Ohio, wrote Bush, saying that funds should be blocked until all federal investigations into the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now are completed.

ACORN, a group that has led liberal causes since it was formed in 1970, this year hired more than 13,000 part-time workers to sign up voters in minority and poor neighborhoods in 21 states. Some of the 1.3 million registration cards submitted to local election officials, using the names of cartoon characters or pro football players, were obviously phony, spurring GOP charges of widespread misconduct.

ACORN has said it was its own quality-control workers who first noticed problem registration cards, flagged them and submitted them to local election officials in every state that is now investigating them.



Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i0S0UhNW8kVPuYQ2AdeMzmY8qGRgD93VQ35G0
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:13 PM
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1. When will Boehner and the like understand voter registration" fraud"?
Poor ACORN...........another endangered species under attack.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:47 PM
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13. Oh, they understand it alright. They are just doing their darndest
to give the impression to their simp followers that it is Voter fraud. My question is when will the media cover it.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:54 PM
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14. Well, Robert Kennedy, Jr. tried to explain the situation on Morning Joe
this morning and he was effectively blown off. I felt sorry for him as he had to talk a mile a minute to over ride the rude chatter. Mika said something to the effect while Robert was speaking,,,"...if you can believe that!.... rude, rude, rude.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:37 AM
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25. Thanks for mentioning this. I was shocked at their response. Mika, for
example, started saying something like "So, you mean there is nothing wrong going on here?" and the finance guy tried to make some really idiotic comparison to the economic melthdown. Rober Kennedy Jr explained it so clearly and they completely blew him off as you pointed out. Can these guys not even know the facts about this case? How can that be? It is frightening if you ask me. The reality is that people in the MSM should be calling out McCain on making such an absurd accusation in the last debate (and the ACORN fraud in general), but I am only seeing the MSM buying into this absurdity.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:11 AM
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32. Interesting point---I don't know if they know the truth or not. It's not good
either way. On one hand they truly may not know, then, why not? On the other hand they may know and are in the bag for the repukes. The second explanation is my guess. It IS frightening. Now if ACORN loses federal funding, what will happen to them? I guess teevee pundits don't care about other people and their jobs or the service they provide to the country.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:06 AM
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33. They know the truth.
All that is required is to be abreast of current events. That isn't too much to expect from a 'journalist'. All of the facts are readily available with simple research on the internet. But 'journalists' do not control the content of 'news' programing. 'The media', in reality, serve the interests of power, not people. All mainstream media outlets are owned by large corporations, THE primary constituency of all Republicans and most Democrats, and their propaganda will logically reflect that fact. More voters would quickly translate into legislation and policies that are less friendly to corporations, and more oriented to benefiting people, and the owners of our government will not allow that. There is really no mystery or surprise in the fact that the mouthpieces for corporate power would report on this issue from a bias that favors the corporate establishment.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:11 AM
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34. ACORN will most likely lose funding. Imagine if Bush
removes funding from ACORN, how it will help validate this farce. I can imagine people concluding that they would have to be guilty, otherwise they not be under constant investigation and would not have lost their funding. BTW, below is the URL for that video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27292352#27319542">Disgusting video from Morning Joe

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:03 PM
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38. Hey thanks for the link! nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:14 PM
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2. Did he cry?
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Doodler71 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:24 PM
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3. A simple case of word confusion
"It is evident that ACORN is incapable of using federal funds in a manner that is consistent with the law," Boehner, R-Ohio,

Surely he must be mistaking ACORN for the GOP.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:35 PM
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4. so he can move the money to a faith based group?
when he said "inconsistent with the law" I think he meant "inconsistent with GOP goals"
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BayjanDem Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:41 PM
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5. The mans name is BOEHNER
So we shouldn't be surprised when he acts like a dickhead.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:48 PM
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6. Time after time after time.
The GOP moves only in coordinated fashion to seize and hold power, period, nothing else to it, EVER.

Which speaks well for ACORN.

Ninety Days From Today.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:53 PM
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7. There they go again with their fake voter-scandals.
Sigh.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:55 PM
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8. Hey MORANS...Acorn is REQUIRED BY LAW to submit EVERY FORM
...EVERY FORM...even if the form says "Mickey Mouse".

Acorn is REQUIRED BY LAW to submit EVERY FORM.

That really isn't rocket surgery, so maybe some republicans will manage to understand the fact.
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weber49 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:55 PM
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9. Alleged ACORN "fraud"
Maybe the Republicans can explain why there are not any arrests of ACORN workers but a Republican Registration company president has been arrest.

See the article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,4020813.story
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:58 PM
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10. I don't believe Bush has the power to do that. He does not have a line item veto and this was a
part of a much larger bill. When will Republicans get a clue and learn how our gov't works.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:41 PM
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11. LOL! I'd love Bush to step forward at this point!
It would be wonderful!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:46 PM
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12. I don't think any federal money is going to ACORN's
voter registration drive. The $31 million that Boehner listed all goes to ACORN outfits that deal with low income housing. Most of that is for Fair Housing offices that offer advice. The grants come from HUD. Nothing is illegal about any of it.

PDF
http://republicanleader.house.gov/UploadedFiles/101608acornchart.pdf
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:55 PM
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15. But... cutting funds would be illegal.... perhaps criminal.
John Boehner eh? Sounds like serious scumduggery.

Can I argue that someone needs to arrest whackjob Boehner and
cut off his nuts when he objects?

Naturally if its all a mistake we can give him back his nuts.
Later.

Not advocating, just asking whether it might help stop Boehner from
soliciting a crime.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:46 PM
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16. The economy is in the shitter and their foaming about AAAAAACCCCCOOOOORRRNNNN!
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 08:47 PM by Jersey Ginny
Out-of-touch idiots.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:59 PM
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17. He knows ACORN was legally required to submit those forms, even the bogus ones.
It's a very serious matter to accuse ACORN of a crime when he knows they acted properly and legally.

It's called "bearing false witness."

What slime these Republics are!

-Laelth
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vagabund Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:00 PM
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18. ACORN has never been even charged with anything
serial exaggerators.
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:02 PM
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19. Boner is a sack of shit. eom
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:17 PM
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20. Maybe if we cut off his acorns he'll stop being such a Boehner.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 10:18 PM by cui bono
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:16 AM
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23. Bastard! I that's the zinger I was trying to find (but failed). Bravo.
:toast:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:02 AM
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24. Why thank you.
Now nominate me for a Duzy. I feel left out never having won one. ;)

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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 02:40 PM
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37. A DUzy? LOL. I'll vote for that. So how do I get me one of them?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:41 PM
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21. Acorn Destroys World Financial System! Giant Squid Devours San Francisco!
Inside: The Alien's 2008 Endorsements
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:06 AM
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22. what's going on with the FBI investiation..
into ACORN that was illegally leaked? And why hasn't the Justice Department answered the Obama Campaign Counsel requesting that the investigation into the Attorney General Firing Scandal be expanded to include the witch hunt the GOP is undertaking against ACORN?
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:32 AM
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26. House GOP leader asks Bush to cut off ACORN funds
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 11:54 PM by pc1971
Source: Associated Press, by way of Yahoo

WASHINGTON – House Republican leader John Boehner on Wednesday urged President Bush to block all federal funds to a grass-roots community group that has been accused of voter registration fraud.

"It is evident that ACORN is incapable of using federal funds in a manner that is consistent with the law," Boehner, R-Ohio, wrote Bush, saying that funds should be blocked until all federal investigations into the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now are completed.

ACORN, a group that has led liberal causes since it was formed in 1970, this year hired more than 13,000 part-time workers to sign up voters in minority and poor neighborhoods in 21 states. Some of the 1.3 million registration cards submitted to local election officials, using the names of cartoon characters or pro football players, were obviously phony, spurring GOP charges of widespread misconduct.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_el_pr/gop_acorn



whoops! didn't see this farther down the page, please delete mods...
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:32 AM
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27. Boner
Why is it that these rethugs seem to think that access to the justice dept. is for them, but not the Dems? Sorry, I didn't realize what is obvious. It's been that way for 20 of the last 28 years.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:32 AM
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28. What bullshit. They have fully complied with the law. They have turned in all
registrations as REQUIRED by law, and have scrutinized and flagged those that are suspicious.
Just another rePigliCon suppression tactic.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:32 AM
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29. It's another example of Boner running half-cocked into an issue he knows little about.
Time for another drink, Johnny?

Maybe it's also time to go fuck another lobbyist and have a smoke afterward?

Geez that guy's off-the-charts stupid!
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:29 AM
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35. for a guy with a name that's pronounced
boner, he's obviously a little... flaccid, where the truth is concerned.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:32 AM
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30. Methinks Bonehead is gonna be a mighty lonely 'Puke
come the next Congress.

:evilgrin:
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:48 AM
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31. Hey John: Suck it! n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:39 AM
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36. The problem with this is not that he's totally wrong...
The problem is that the Associated Pukes report it as a serious accusation. And the other problem, of course, is that such a sleazy, no-good, stupid-making liar could sit in the U.S. Congress and be one of its leaders.

Both problems are intimately related to the direct control over our election results now exercised by rightwing corpos--mostly Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia--using 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code throughout our election system, with virtually no audit/recount controls.

Guaranteed power tends to produce degenerate offspring--as monarchical systems of governments have shown. Both the Associated Pukes--an arrogant 'news' monopoly that controls the 'news' everywhere, even on Air America, and that promotes the most ignorant, gospel-spewing, barely literate bunch of toady reporters in the world--and Mr. Bonehead and his fellow Puke liars and evildoers--are phenomena that just don't last long in a healthy democracy. In a healthy democracy, they sink to the bottom. They are found out. Their inferior goods are exposed. But our democracy is sick with Corpo/Fascist 'news' monopolies and 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting. A monopoly means you DON'T HAVE TO DO A GOOD JOB. You can force people to buy your shit. Thus, why should you bother to create a good product?

I don't think Bonehead's motives matter much. I think the fact that he has a platform to stand on--a powerful position in Congress, and toady reporters to take him seriously--is what matters. But I will say this--his goal, as with so much of the Corpo/Fascist tripe we are subjected to, is to draw attention away from the FAILED Puke voter registration (a failure that highlights their disgrace with the American people, and hurts their donations), and to tie Obama's hands, and Congress' hands, by a steady stream of flak in the Corpo/Fascist media, as to who gets federal funding. By demonizing ACORN and groups like ACORN, who are doing great work in poor communities, they are creating a stupid narrative that makes such work "controversial." It should not be controversial. It's what the government should be doing--helping the poor to participate as citizens--whether helping them to register to vote, or advising them on low-cost housing. The poor are greatly disadvantaged in all spheres. So if we believe in equal opportunity--that is, if we are a democracy--we will attempt to "level the playing field" with projects like ACORN's.

The truth doesn't matter, in this stupid narrative. The facts don't matter. And the views of the citizens and voters don't matter. In this 'Alice in Wonderland' created by the inherited, monarchical power of money (corporate monopolies that live forever) and non-transparent, corporate-controlled vote counting, it's the NARRATIVE that matters--the ILLUSION of democracy. Really, Boner might as well be the Red Queen screaming "Off with their heads!" to the Playing Cards that didn't paint the white roses red--and everybody but Alice cowers in fear and takes out their notepads and writes about how the white roses were always supposed to be red and it is a failure of family values that they aren't, and yes, everybody should paint the white roses red, in honor of the Red Queen and the Great Prick in the Sky.

It's nuts! And the reasons why it's nuts are real obvious to me: corporate 'news' monopolies and corporate vote counting with SECRET code.

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