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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:27 PM
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Alamo chairwoman writes letter stating Obama is a Muslim socialist
Source: Las Cruses Sun-News

ALBUQUERQUE - The chairwoman of an Otero County Republican women's group on Tuesday defended a letter to the editor in which she wrote, ''I believe Muslims are our enemies.''

Marcia Stirman, a 56-year-old interior decorator, also called Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama ''a Muslim socialist.''

...snip...

The list ends with Stirman saying Obama is ''a Muslim socialist.'' She also wrote, ''I believe war is a fact of life and we should always win.''


Read more: http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845



So apparently, just being a Muslim isn't enough to get the crowds worked up any more?
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:28 PM
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1. Keep talking, Republicans.
Don't mind that first rule of holes, keep digging yourselves in deeper. Never know when you might need that trench.

Idiots.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:00 PM
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42. Absolutely - we just need to step back, they are doing a great job
at sinking this Titanic of a campaign.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:29 PM
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2. Dumbfucks, get it straight. He's a MUSLIN, f'chrissake.
Cheeze laweeze.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:31 PM
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6. Any interior decorator should know that. What an idiot she must be.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:05 PM
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21. I apologize on behalf of interior decorators everywhere. Not all of us are stupid like her.
Really... what an embarrassment to the field.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:53 PM
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49. No its Mohommaden, according to my dear sweet mother.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:30 PM
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3. The only Republicans left are the Nazis and Klansmen. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:31 PM
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4. How can someone so stupid be the chair of anything?!
:wow:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:32 PM
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9. Y'ever been on a committee, sfexpat?
:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:44 PM
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14. LOL! Good point!
:rofl:
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:11 PM
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44. To quote Robert Anson Heinlein:
"Committees are lifeforms with six or more legs and no brain."

Exhibit A given at the OP above

:rofl:
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:56 PM
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19. I didn't think anything could top that Palin being
an Intellectual, but I spilled wine out of my nose at that one. :rofl:
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:54 AM
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56. In case you haven't noticed,
since at least the time of "Saint Raygun" the republicker party has been using the Peter Principle in their HR dept.
The overwhelming majority of heads of republickers groups are stooooopid as rocks. Apologies to rocks.:eyes:
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honestduel Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:31 PM
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5. Obama is a Christian
It's been well'documented.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:33 PM
Original message
I was referring to the Republican framing....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:50 PM
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:46 PM
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23. And so what if he weren't, you know?
That's the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Muslims are America's new Jew or N word. Muslims are not all or even mostly terrorists nor are all terrorists Muslim. In fact, in the last few days, the terror mongers have been the Republicans so Palin and McCain don't just "pal around" with terrorists, they ARE terrorists! Send THEM to Gitmo!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:17 PM
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29. You know what usually shuts these idiots up? Ask them to list the atrocities of the Muslim world
and then list the atrocities of the X-tian world.

The subject is quickly changed.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:21 PM
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31. I'd be happy to discuss the comparison of atrocities during my lifetime.
Or do we have to go back a little further than that.

David
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:24 PM
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32. I don't think we need to to make the point... going back further would just be mean
"But but but those weren't "real" Christians!" :eyes:
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:27 PM
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33. So what are these vast atrocities that Christians have committed in the last 40 years?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:29 PM
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35. Lets start with just America - Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Chile
Want more?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:11 PM
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43. So the United States is a Christian nation?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #35
60. Those were religious wars?
Those were religious wars? I was under the impression they were wholly secular in both nature and content...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:36 PM
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36. Ever heard of Tim McVeigh?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:11 PM
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45. What makes you think he was a Christian?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:13 AM
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63. His own statements.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:38 PM
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64. So he killed other Christians for a religious reason?
That's funny I always heard he was pissed at the federal government for Waco and Ruby Ridge. If you have some inside knowledge please share. Besides I'm pretty sure Jesus specifically warned against harming innocent children that would cause me to think that his act wasn't really a Christian one. But hey Charles Manson claimed to be an environmentalist so I guess we can blame the environmentalists for the Manson murders.

David
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. Why create an arbitrary limit of 40 years ?
As if human nature itself has somehow changed : It hasn't ...
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #39
46. Please follow along.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:46 PM
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48. I can only tolerate so much 'blah blah blah'
I frankly doubt your one phrase responses constitute a substantial exposition of fact ...

It isnt worth my valuable time ....
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:25 PM
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50. Then why waste the time to respond in the first place.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:32 PM
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7. I can't wait till dinosaurs die off. n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:32 PM
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8. Sometimes, it's hard to tell the difference between the news and The Onion
Where do these people come from?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:33 PM
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10. You, too? I clicked that link fully expecting a piece from the Onion
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:46 PM
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24. Out from under rocks, I think
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:34 PM
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11. And there is this little gem: ''I believe war is a fact of life and we should always win.''
*sigh* Ten bucks she never served one day in uniform.


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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:03 AM
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58. $20 says
she never served anybody in uniform.
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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:35 PM
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12. Yikes, I thought this was Alamo car rentals. Oh well, forget the Alamo.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:41 PM
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13. Come on, Chris.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 04:42 PM by dhpgetsit
Make her say it on Hardball!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:47 PM
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15. My husband got a call from the McPlain campaign today
He's registered as Independant, so has been getting all kinds of crap in the mail - eg a personalized, "autographed" photo of the decrepit duo. Today on the phone they reminded him Obama's middle name was "Hussein", and said that his father was actually a Muslim terrorist!
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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:04 PM
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20. Creepy!
You can be damn sure that robo-calls like this will be going at the last minute of the campaign. We just had a Federal Election here in Canada. During supper-time the day before the vote, I got a robo-call from my riding's Conservative candidate, saying that the Liberals' Green Shift Plan will mean that "your power bill will go up by 41%". Even though I'm not a big Liberal fan, I knew that statement was bogus. Look for more of these kind of last-minute desperation tactics. And make no mistake, the Republicans are desperate. What's with this attitude that the world will end if the Democrats win?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:47 PM
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16. Its BS. I hope Obama sends her to the Gulag after he wins.
:)
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:50 PM
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40. I'd also prefer to see Palin in permanent exile somewhere out in Siberia
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 06:52 PM by ngant17
but failing that, I hope the worst of those frigid Siberian cold fronts will find their way across the Bering Straits and into her living room.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:38 PM
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51. Yeah, the Madrassa Gulag! -nt
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Kalifornia.Kid Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:49 PM
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17. She was running for a magistrate judge position in 2006 ?!?!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:41 PM
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22. She says Obama is a socialist Muslim & Muslims are our enemy. But are socialists our enemy?
She doesn't say. ;-)
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kenichol Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:47 PM
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25. Here is link to the original article
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:39 PM
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38. Her original letter contains a lot of unintended ironies.
Alamogordo Daily News
Article Launched: 10/21/2008 12:00:00 AM MDT

I read in today's paper what a woman wrote explaining why she's a Democrat. Let me tell you why I'm not. I'm a Republican because:

I believe in a sovereign God who sometimes gives us what we deserve.

I believe Muslims are our enemies.

I believe in life. A baby is not just a fetus, but a living being no matter where it resides.

I believe there is a good reason for the death penalty.

I believe in fiscal responsibility, for the government and for us.

I believe the government is way too big and rife with greed and corruption.

I believe in the truth. People believe lies because it's much easier than finding the truth.

I believe in personal responsibility. That includes spanking your children.

I believe American women should raise their own children and American men should be men enough to pay for children they've produced.

I believe a man and woman make marriage. Period.

I believe in America first and foremost and we ought to take care of our own people, our own land, and illegal aliens should go home.

I believe in guns and knowing how to use them properly.

I believe war is a fact of life and we should always win.

I believe in lower taxes. I know how to spend money better than Congress any day
of the week.

I believe in voter ID.

I believe there is a moderate and a socialist in this election. I agree with a two-party system, but Obama isn't a messiah or a democrat.

He's a Muslim socialist.


Marcia Stirman, Alamogordo
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boilinmad Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:32 AM
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61. I believe, Marcia Stirman,....
....that you are the biggest fucking idiot in the world.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:51 PM
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26. I was at an Ohio Flea Market last Sunday when some woman came up & handed me a large typed message
Turned out it was about Obama. She just said "I have something for you" and I thought it was about another Flea Market or something like that which is par for the course. But it turned out to be a tirade about Obama being a Muslim. It was full of hatred and lies. She walked away before I realized what it was and we left shortly after that so I wasn't able to tell her how I felt.

This reminded me of when I was a 15 year old girl in a Bible Church in Ohio back in 1960. It was about the same time of year, end of Oct. and nearing the election when my Minister was handing out pamphlets on how JFK was a Catholic who couldn't be trusted because the Pope would take over the country. The next week I came in with my JFK button on and was ostracized from my Church because I dared to wear a Kennedy badge into the Church. I figured if they could hand out lies I could wear a button supporting JFK. It was the last time I ever belonged to a Church of any kind. I have become a big fan of Thomas Jefferson because of this and feel a kinship to his views on religion because of this experience.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:00 PM
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27. I thought Obama was a "Muslin terrorist-pal socialist commie"
:eyes:
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:02 PM
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28. Hold the phone here.
She says we are at war with Muslims when I thought it was a war on terrorism. Nobody declared war on any religion that I know of and it wasn't a religion that attacked us on 9-11. I guess that one was a guilt by association thing that instantly made a major part of the world's population at war with us. That's why she was so gullible to believe Saddam Hussein was associated with 9-11 too I would guess and is the repuke propaganda machine at work.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:28 PM
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34. I see you weren't notified about the Crusade!
Hmmm, are you a Muslim?:sarcasm:
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:55 AM
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57. I don't have to be.
Bush said we are either with him or against him and I'm not with him.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:17 PM
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30. .
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:37 PM
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37. May she get kicked out of the group.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:59 PM
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41. "Muslim socialist..." that's interesting.
Bizarre. It's obviously code language. They couldn't target him as an "elitist," so they go for "the other."
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:23 PM
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47. WTF ''I believe war is a fact of life and we should always win.''
I thought we lost the Alamo? :shrug:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:45 PM
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52. Hmmm, looks like someone else needs to be
TINKLENBERGED!!!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 11:24 PM
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53. I'll betcha she's a GOOD CHRISTIAN woman.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 11:28 PM
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54. One thing about this election that's pretty nifty... we're finding out that a lot more Rethugs in
positions of power are total nutjobs, I mean totally wack, than I ever expected to see exposed!
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 11:32 PM
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55. ''I believe war is a fact of life and we should always win.''
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 11:33 PM by socialdemocrat1981
I hope all the members of her family who are eligible are signed up for Iraq then. In fact if she's so enthusiastic about it, she should be signed up for Iraq as well
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 AM
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59. Hey, gloating snark-o-riffic DU dumbasses
When the election's done, and Barack is President, many (if not most) DUers will jump on the snark/gloat wagon.

Many already are.

Those of us who have survived fascist Neocon families will warn you:

These fascists are MORE dangerous when they go underground. And they aren't going anywhere.

Of course, this warning will fall on deaf ears.

Pile on, dumbass gloaters. You have no clue how rabid and insane these people are, even though you just lived 8 years of it.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:39 AM
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62. Sign up all your children and grandchildren for Iraq then...
Oh, that's right, you only hold beliefs that don't require any "personal sacrifice." I'm so friggin' sick of these Xtian DUMBASSES.

J
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:58 PM
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65. Yeah, a Muslim socialist who attended a UCC church for twenty years
Whatever.

You cannot argue with a cult member. You cannot argue with someone who is dumb.
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