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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:24 PM
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Police Prepare for Unrest
Source: The Hill

By Alexander Bolton
10/21/08 07:58 PM

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.

Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas (following professional sports events) and also on Internet rumors.

Democratic strategists and advocates for black voters say they understand officers wanting to keep the peace, but caution that excessive police presence could intimidate voters.

Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/police-prepare-for-unrest-2008-10-21.html
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:24 PM
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1. I hope they plan on massing in GOP strongholds...
n/t
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:32 PM
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11. Hrmm...
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
24. Some vintage Steve Earle, eh....?
Or are we talking about other forms of "resistance?" ;-)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #24
127. Maybe...
;)
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
57. Back to the bad old days



Theophilus Eugene "Bull" Connor
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tismyself Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #57
102. Is that a Charles Moore photo?
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #57
121. It is my experience in 45 years of political activism
that police cause riots, sometimes they start them. Take your videos and still cameras to the polling location.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #121
132. I'll second that.
Dow chemical protest in Madison WI 1967 started as a peaceful sit-in. Cops were called and without provocation they started beating the protestors. That was the first of countless ant-war demonstrations here that turned violent.

We saw the same thing - but worse- at this year's rethug convention in St Paul. Police have been "perfecting" their skills and weaponry since the Viet Nam protest days... very disconcerting
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:25 PM
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2. You better believe it
If Obama has this election stolen from him, I don't doubt for one moment that there will be rioting the likes of which this country has never seen.

And, of course, the Democrats will be blamed for everything.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. I agree there will be civil unrest unlike this country
has seen since the Rodney King riots. A lot of people have put much effort into getting Barack Obama elected and if it's stolen I don't think voters will take it as well as they did in 2000 and 2004.

Of course the media will do their mea culpas and ask themselves, why didn't we ask the hard questions of McCain and Palin? It will be too late then.



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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:26 PM
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3. The GOP is more likely to get violent
Plenty of them won't be able to take a black guy winning.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #3
15. Remember how they burned L.A. to the ground after OJ
was acquitted and how the suburbs erupted when Reagen was shot. It could get real nasty out there.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Also remember when scooter libby was found guilty....
bad time, eh?:sarcasm:
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. I forgot that
damn, I sat up all night with a shotgun on my lap waiting for the plundering hoards.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #20
49. In all seriousness, if there is civil unrest after an Obama election theft,
it will be far more than blacks in the streets. I for one would join any civil disobedience. I have had more than enough of American fascism.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. That's what will be historical,
should it come to that. The majority of the rioters will, I suspect, be Caucasian, and what will the police do then?

Shades of Chicago, 1968.

Man, I hope we're just daydreaming here.........................
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #52
131. shades of the tulsa race riots in 1921. n/t.
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rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #49
74. Where do I sign up? n/t
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mrih Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #49
84. I would too
I'd join in the unrest as well. No way would I stand for another BS fake election.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #49
91. right on
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #49
106. I was just thinking that myself. This could be the spark to ignite the whole country
Because, unlike Rodney King, or the LA riots, this is not a black or white thing. It's a party thing. A big party! No, but seriously, it's the dem party.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #106
118. Donkeys can kick
back with tremendous force. That should make them think twice, but no it won't .And remember an elephant if conditioned to accept tethering at a young age are like most conservatives that foist "discipline" upon their kids,they won't get it that the rope holding them down is something found only in the mind and in what lies they believe.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #19
103. Did he spend any time in jail? I don't think so.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #15
126. What does OJ have to do with the GOP?
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #3
90. I agree that many KKK types will get violent
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 06:05 PM by fed_up_mother
But there won't be mass rioting in most "white" suburbs. (Actually, mine is quite integrated, but white folk are still in the majority.) It's the group violence the cops are preparing for.

Meanwhile, the Secret Service is probably planning the heaviest protection on a president they've ever had. The white supremists will be coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
133. i don't know about that... There will be unbounded rage if this election is stolen
If Obama "loses" all will know it has been stolen. i shudder to imagine the repercussions.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:26 PM
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4. Obviously they plan to steal the election again
that is why they brought the troops back from Iraq for urban warfare duty. I don't think they're going to be able to steal it this time though.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:27 PM
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5. Cities with large "black populations?" WHAT THE FUCK???
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 01:30 PM by BeHereNow
Talk about racism.
What, WHITE people are not going to revolt if their
votes are not counted?

Booga-booga, scary black people...

Fuckers.
How dare they print such a thing.

BHN
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Really. I guess I'll be easy to pick out of the mob, though, being the only white guy
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 01:30 PM by cliffordu
there....


:sarcasm:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Cleary, the BLACKS are the problem... AGAIN.
Un-fucking-believable.

The demonization of brown/black people in this country is a

NATIONAL DISGRACE-

Fuck you Palin for opening this door.
There's a special place in hell for people who incite
this sort of profiling and hate.
BHN
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #13
59. They will be out to discipline the "darkies"
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #59
112. well
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 10:29 PM by undergroundpanther
I guess They'll be"disciplining" me too.. Because I will be fighting alongside all the darkies and any shade in between willing to fight for our country . Fuck all the authoritarian conservative thugs.
(Panther's sharpening Zir claws and fangs on a carbide grinding wheel)
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Right on
They'll get me or you, anyway.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
25. Nah there will be three of us
my wife and I will be marching right along with you!!!
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Make that at least 4.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. Five, because I'm in. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #36
46. Almost got a movement of anti-american socialists.....
I'd be proud to stand with you all.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. Well hell, I'll make it six,
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 03:10 PM by anotheryellowdog
and friends, that might make it a movement; kind of like another movement I once heard tell of in a song. The song was cute, but the reality then as now was a much graver matter.

"And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the
guitar.
" - Arlo Guthrie -
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. Yaoup!!
:patriot:
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #48
61. In my wanderings today at work
I found another two dozen who said they were in..hell that's a movement!!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #61
79. No SHIT!!!! Now we have almost a company of volunteers!!!!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #48
113. Seven..
And he held up all those 8 by ten glossies with lines and arrows ..You can get anything you waaaant!!At Alice's Res Taur Rauuunt!
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143tbone Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #36
96. I'll be #6. n/t
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WarbirdForObama Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
77. They'll need to be looking hard
'cause I'll be there too. Pale as a sheet, and mad as a wet hen.

The ONLY thing I want to hear on November 5th is PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK OBAMA.

Anything else is Republican Treason against the United States
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Exactly
to my knowledge, it has been white supporters of McCain et al who have been recorded advocating and inciting violence, not Obama supporters. Why, then, the pointed concerns about "large black populations"?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Because we are a nation of bigots?
All the people of this country needed was Sarah Palin
and her demonization of Muslims, Arabs and anyone who
isn't like her. She has unleashed this hatred and I know
she will burn in hell for it, rightly so,

BHN
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
22.  and actual violence against liberals
with that church shooting in Tennessee and the chairman of the Arkansas Democratic Party. I think the police should be much more worried about the listeners of Rush Limbaugh.
This country is racist and sexist apparently. Sadly.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #10
33. I think law enforcement agencies might just be
trying to think about where the most destructive riots will occur, places with large populations, and I don't exactly know why they would specifically single out largely black areas. Maybe because Obama is overwhelmingly ahead with black voters?


I think this is just fairly typical of higher-ranking administrative law enforcement officers doing what they do best, which is mean well but bungle much of what they do.




Here's hoping for no cause to riot.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #10
35. Is Rush Limbaugh black, now . . . ?
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
45. easy see, manifest destinty says that whites can kill whomever they want
it is God's will see. But should a nigger even look a white in they eye they deserve to get lynched. So that is why the cops do not care about groups of whites, manifest destiny.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #45
105. reggie, what part of France are you in? I've been thinking about
the Netherlands, although, I love Paris.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #105
134. I am in a place called the Var
and racism exists here too. Paris is way cooler and very open minded.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #45
111. Manifest destiny is a CORE tenet of conservatism
Sad that most conservatives are too fucking STUPID to understand how that pans out in reality..In "god ordained orders and classes".

Manifest Destiny is a LIE. A terrible LIE!

The only thing these racist assholes hate worse than blacks are people of mixed race,Miscegenation ,a gender queer freak maltheist melungeon like me.

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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #10
80. To make sure they never try and vote again. Everyone one will be hitting the streets
if this election is stolen again! Every color and race. What in the hell are they talking about!!!!!!!!!:wtf:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #5
26. That was my first thought as well.
Don't misunderestimate the ability of us angy white folk to stir up some shit too!
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #26
38. Man, oh man - it boggles the mind, Pilot ;)
The way they are constructing their argument, if they expect violence in cities with large black populations, then it follows that if McCain/Palin lose there will be riots in Sun City and predominantly female areas??? WTF???

If Obama loses there will be riots alright...but not because a black man lost. Because they did it again. And, everyone will be there. If (and when!) Obama wins, there will be another kind of riot...a Celebratory Riot!

A party to end all parties!!



:party:
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. Where are these "predominantly female areas"
of which you speak?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #43
51. Yeah! Inquiring minds (and horny guys) want to know.
And these "areas" -- are they clothing optional?
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #43
62. Hmm...that's a good question
Maybe the cities that are convent heavy....or cities with sanctuary areas for pregnant women? Who the hell knows? It's as crazy as "black" cities.

:)
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #43
101. I would like to move their.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #38
93. Whoa......."predominantly female areas"
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 06:12 PM by unapatriciated
I guess you haven't seen the latest polls

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/21/obamas-lead-widens-mccain-falters-in-latest-pew-poll/?mod=googlenews_wsj
McCain’s running mate, Sarah Palin, is also proving to be a drag on the Republican presidential ticket. Nearly half, 49%, have an unfavorable opinion of Palin. Women under 50 years old in particular dislike Palin, with 60% holding an unfavorable view—up from 36% one month ago.

Not to mention the rise in polls numbers for Obama with older voters, who are more likely to vote than any other group.
Most of us old white women did learn critical thinking in HS.

This old white woman will be joining yellow dog,madT,cliff and hopfully you in a march on Washington if they steal this one..


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
31. Sadly, we haven't yet.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
42. I agree. Obama supporters are diverse and will stand up if this
election is rigged or stolen. No need to call out part of the group of Obama supporters by skin color. Our skin color may vary but our support and dedication do not.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
64. They dare because they can AND the repugs
say it all the time with impunity. No problem for them to be openly racist.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
66. Because they're a right-wing rag?
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 05:08 PM by KamaAina
How dare they print such a thing.

From The Hill's Wiki entry:

Since 2003, The Hill's editor in chief has been Hugo Gurdon, previously a reporter and editor at The Daily Telegraph (London) and the National Post (Toronto). Gurdon turned The Hill from a weekly paper into a daily during congressional sessions.

The Daily Torygraph AND the National Post, founded by RW convicted felon Conrad Black. Now there's a well-rounded resume! :sarcasm:

edit: $^^&#!! DU software won't take the Wiki link because it has parens! :argh:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
72. They are planning on stealing it and assuming
that all the black people will riot.

At least that was my first thought on opening this thread.

Have they taken a look at some of the people who are working for Obama? I see lots of white faces. Plenty of white people will be pushed past their limit too, if this happens. We can't let them get away with anything.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #5
73. White people will revolt, actually, in large numbers.
Most of us who watched the 2000 and 2004 elections stolen will not sit still for another one. The powder keg will go boom. They would do well to let the election go the way it's going to go. Stealing it again will bring revolution. Promise.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
92. Racism IS Institutionalized
This proves it...
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #92
116. It always was
Part of the Conservatism cannons.One off them is Manifest destiny,from god,on down the pryramid of classes,another is divine orders and classes,which means one of thier central tenets is keeping Inequality unequal.. A.K.A. Classwar.

The big evil 6

There are six basic "canons" or principles of conservatism. After each, I will observe how those six canons of conservatism seem to pan out in reality.

#1 A divine intent, as well as personal conscience, rules society.

#2 Traditional life is filled with variety and mystery while most radical systems are characterized by a narrowing uniformity.

#3 Civilized society requires orders and classes.

#4 (Owning private )Property and freedom are inseparably connected.

#5 Man must control his will and his appetite, knowing that he is governed more by emotion than by reason.


#6 Society must alter itself slowly.

But these six 'cannons' look better on paper, in real life they are pure evil..
Here is something I wrote about it all.
http://www.unknownnews.org/060502a-Panther.html
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:22 PM
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110. Unless McSame wins it fair and square, they'd be no reason to protest.



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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:27 PM
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6. If there is Republican funny business that swings this, I can see how they get Obama to go along
They will demand that he tell people to calm down, etc. And to prevent violence, he would probably go along.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:29 PM
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8. Especially if hundreds of thousands of blacks are turned away at the polls...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:36 PM
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17. Any DU'r with camera ...can you please
get film/pics of "the troops" if they are ut and about on voting day.
I would be real curious to see how many Blackwater, how many military, how "militarized" the local police is.
In case you missed the story, Blackwater has been training many many city police forces.

If there is a way to have evidence of police behavior...preferably in a manner that will nto put the photographer in harm's way.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:35 PM
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115. I got a cellphone camera
I'll make sure there's plenty of space on it.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:40 PM
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18. RACIST
:mad:
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:48 PM
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21. F***, if Obama loses because of foul play, it's this WHITE MAN, the authorities
better be preparing for.

If Obama loses because of RepubliCON cheating (again), I say we shut the government down.

Mass non-violent street protest in DC that just shuts it down.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:55 PM
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23. The Day after the election is the 5th of Novemeber, right?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:05 PM
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27. So the plan is to steal the election and shoot the n*s?
Great plan. I am so happy to be living with these schmucks.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:06 PM
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28. The article says nothing about rednecks rampaging when McCain loses?
That's where the real violence is going to come into play IMO.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:06 PM
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30. And while we have dystopic fantasies about violence...
And while we have dystopic fantasies about violence and stroke our guns lovingly (all the while saying, "I'm not advocating violence" to get our own soul off the hook), we lose sight of that wholly relevant passage: "caution that excessive police presence could intimidate voters...." which is to me the most dramatic piece of the story.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:08 PM
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32. There's only ONE way that Obama could lose --- "foul play" . . .
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:15 PM
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34. If the outcome doesn't jibe w/ the exit polls, damn right there'll be "unrest."
If Obama's 5-10 points up going in and the exit polls show him with a clear win and then, amazingly, millions of votes somehow flip to McCain in the middle of the night in a few key states, you bet your ass people will be up in arms. But it won't just be in big urban centers, and it won't just be black people.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:21 PM
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37. I think they're going to have to do something about the exit polls . . .
probably send teams out to reverse figures ---

because I'd bet that Obama's lead is easily in the high teens or more ---

Wasn't Zogby just reporting a 27% lead? 58% to 31% . . . ???



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:25 PM
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39. and remember 2000 and how organized the steal was . . . they were ready
to argue either way -- that an Electoral win was meaningless if they got a popular vote --

and that a popular vote was meaningless if they got Electoral.

Evidently the electoral was easier for them to steal --


Note how ready as well with all the arguements against the punch ballots and recounts ---

and undermining of Florida State Supreme Court ---


The dual arguments about military ballots --- arguing one way in one area and the opposite

in another!!


NOTE also the readiness with the fascist rally --- getting their operatives out into the

street EARLY -- !!!

And well enough hidden until much later on!!


What's our plan?

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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:10 PM
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50. I went to bed in 2004
over here in France, Kerry was up five percent in the exit polls

woke up at noon to find out bush "won".

preceeded to put pantera "fucking hostile" at full volume, the neighbor on lunch break yelled out in french "you just found out huh"...........shortly thereafter I lost faith in "democracy". I still vote but I really do not think it fucking matters anymore. we shall see...
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:33 PM
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40. Who are these safety officials and with what cities are they affiliated? Let's
have some names and places, a TOTAL list, please. This smacks of some rightwing smear fear; more of this "some" police depts in "some" cities. Let's have the motherfuckin' list of this widespread contagion.

NoFederales
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:46 PM
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41. This line said it for me
Democratic strategists and advocates for black voters say they understand officers wanting to keep the peace, but caution that excessive police presence could intimidate voters.

Intimidation is the purpose here, I can hardly wait to see what my local constabulary pulls considering what they did during the RNC convention and that they were given 50,000,000 bucks to play with.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:59 PM
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:04 PM
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47. They better not be cordoning of of blocking roads DURING the election.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 03:04 PM by cottonseed
I can already imagine if things get too heated; streets being shut down... thus, polling places being unreachable... The police presence will cause more of a mess than anything.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:28 PM
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53. Carry your cameras, your video cameras, your cell phones..
anything..everything...document!!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:47 PM
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56. I have news for you jerks. If they try to steal this election,
we're going to Washington and we aren't LEAVING until Obama is sworn in.

ALL OF US.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:01 PM
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60. Man the outhouses! We will be on our way!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:33 PM
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114. To the republicons
If ya ever git hit with a bucket of shit... be sure to close yer eyes and I know republicons can't shut their loud belligerent mouths..eeeww Ha ha..
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:21 PM
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97. I with you pat...
it has to be a march on Washington and a sit in, larger than any demonstration in history.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:52 PM
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58. Dangerous territory here, but people will just accept it.
If they steal it again, it's going to be a lot more than just us Blacks righteously pissed off.

Nonetheless, even if they do steal it, I don't think Americans -- including most on this board -- are actually going to do anything more than bitch and moan from behind their computer screens. I live in Northern Virginia, and I'm willing to bet most will just accept this. A lot of people will WANT to take to the streets, but most will be too scared. There will only be reaction if someone gets killed or hurt by the goombas on the street.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:08 PM
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68. I think you're wrong about that this time
It's hard to get people to take risks when they have things to lose. Back in 2000 and 2004 people still had a lot to lose. Now? Not so much. People are getting more angry and more desperate, to the point where I think more and more people will be willing to take risks.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:28 PM
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98. Your wrong....
I have never been afraid of protesting my Government when I disagree, I started in the late 60's and am still doing it now.
In fact Hubby and I have already planned for time off on and after Nov 4th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqirXBOMWfk
We filmed this one when we first moved to Atlanta and have been to many more since than.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:19 PM
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109. I'll be there with ya.
I need to make myself some spine & neck protection I can wear under my clothes because I got serious spine issues,so when I get out there I don't want to be put down with one crack.
Sometimes you have to think before you go.But if they fucking steal this election I think it's time everyone should rise up,who can.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:59 PM
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63. Yeah, the issue is the potential female VP. Not the stolen election to achieve it.
:eyes:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:06 PM
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65. As much as I can't wait for November 4th, articles such as this one,
scare the hell out of me.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:07 PM
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67. These Goddamn assholes are going to steal a 3rd election!
K&R
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:16 PM
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75. That is what came to mind when I read this
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:08 PM
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69. They think the civil unrest will come primarily from blacks if Barack Obama has
the election stolen from him?

That's a big bad misunderstanding on their part.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:09 PM
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70. Don't think it will only be the "black" population upset
if this election is stolen. My pitchfork is ready.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:10 PM
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71. Why do they assume that it will only be in cities with "large black population"? I know
quite a few whites who will be right there with them, myself included!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:17 PM
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76. Look out for the cities with large thinking populations.
:kick:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:46 PM
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86. ...
:thumbsup:
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:18 PM
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78. This kind of worries me like are they gonna steal it again and that's why the military is ready
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 05:19 PM by bkkyosemite
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:21 PM
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81. "violence could ensue in cities with large black populations"
That's not racist, no sir.

:sarcasm:

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:23 PM
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83. They totally don't get that Obama's support is
much broader and deeper than the African American population.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:02 PM
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89. The interesting thing is that he raises sporting event rioting
in attempt to back up his argument. However, sporting event rioters are overwhelmingly white. So it makes absolutely no sense. He appears to not even understand how racist his attitudes are.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:36 PM
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99. 1) that was a different guy 2) there may very well be sporting event type riots if O wins
due to exuberance on the part of O's young white male supporters.
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:21 PM
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82. Or maybe the military and police know that the Palin's followers will go bonkers if Obama wins with
their zealot religious brainwashed ideas and their guns.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:32 PM
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85. These are the people who will be deputized.....
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 05:38 PM by cliffordu
http://www.infragard.net/

Apparently we'll be in hand to hand with the meter reader.....
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patrickmcgoohan Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:01 PM
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87. Freudian Slip?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:59 PM
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107. Scary, if that was a true slip. However, it does appear they are preparing for the theft backlash.
J
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:01 PM
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88. Fear Mongering.....nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:13 PM
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94. Ah Yes.... those "Black Populations"... talk about Institutionalized Racism
Hey fascists.... you fear liberals, democrats, blacks, gays, Arabs... who the fuck aren't you afraid of? I think it's time the table gets turned around...
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ArmedAmerican Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:17 PM
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95. I welcome our new Republican overlords
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 06:19 PM by ArmedAmerican
I think it'll be awesome when they steal the election, it'll prove they're smarter than us. Don't worry about it, just get used to it. We'll have Republican rule, and probably a few less blacks, maybe a few less Jews, and maybe a few less extreme far left radical elements. But that's a price we should all be willing to pay for peace. Right?

Is this satisfactory?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:54 PM
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100. Interesting title -- can be read both ways.
I'm sure the more accurate interpretation is "Police prepare TO CAUSE unrest".
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:49 PM
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104. I will be the whitey directing the cops to the wrong place.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 08:50 PM by slampoet

To the cops. If you wanted my cooperation maybe you shouldn't have beat up my friends with no cause 15 years ago.

Payback.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:45 PM
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117. Yep
I hear ya!

:evilgrin:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 10:04 PM
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108. Another poster
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 10:15 PM by undergroundpanther
put up a post recently that linked to an article about how BLACK WATER is doing police/para military type exercises as if they are to be patrolling the streets in North Carolina. I told my mom,if she sees those Black water pieces of shit in Virginia,(she lives close to the border of NC) She HAS to get her ass back to Maryland pronto.Because it means the shit has hit and we will need to support each other as much as possible,and because it means the government has officially became fascist..

I do know this, I am a devious anti-authoritarian feline.
and I hate anyone who uses the govt. or state's power like a weapon to intimidate people who are not threats. I hate authoritarians and the like,with a hate so deep that it never stops. I hate them enough to be stealth or not.I have nothing to lose.I really don't feel any "love" for this world or my own life really.I can invoke my own apathy if needed (bullies and torturers cannot do squat with apathy, best defense against abusive fuck heads until you see a chance to resist more effectively BTW). I know apathy in the face of 'power' the authoritarians claim they have drives authoritarian types crazy. I have lived in a totalistic environment before..I know what these fuckers are about.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 11:00 PM
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119. "If Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election"
LOLOL

There is already TONS of suspicion of foul play in the election. There is no "IF" about it!

And if Obama doesn't win, it won't just be black people taking to the streets, let me tell you. There won't be enough police to handle it.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:20 AM
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122. And that's the first problem right there. There shouldn't be ANY suspicion.
This whole thing seems like a set up.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 11:12 PM
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120. The fix is in and they are preparing the masses for the ensuing realization that democracy is over.
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GeneralCobra Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 01:27 AM
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123. Damn right
Hell ya. I don't like violence but I don't like rigged elections either. I'll be one of the first people to tip a car over if Obama loses at this point.
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:30 AM
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124. If They Can't Stop The Victory, They'll Make It Look Tainted
(a) using the forged "Barack Obama Kenya Birth Certificate" sprung two days before the election

(b) using Diebold to CREATE fraud IN FAVOR OF Obama, then pointing to the illegality and blaming "Democrat hackers"
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:27 AM
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125. This is such bullshit!!!!
If it becomes clear that the election was stolen from Obama, me and all my lily-white friends are going to be f-ing PISSED and marching right along with the crowd. That's IF the election is stolen. I respect democracy, so if it's an honest loss (which I can't see happening at this point) I can accept it. Let's see if the knuckle-dragging racists are going to accept the results of democracy. They haven't even lost yet and they're already screaming "kill him."
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:16 AM
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128. the thing is
barack obama will not lose unless something vile occurs. i could see some unrest coming from me, a 53-year-old pale woman, under those circumstances.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:40 AM
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129. Sign me up too...
I've had it with Supremes, conflicting exit polls, "voter irregularities", voting machine glitches. Expecially when the national polls are headed the way they are, an Obama loss should cause massive outcry. Anyone have a spare torch and pitchfork?
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:29 AM
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130. this is there way to intimidate the people going to the polls.
I don't have to wonder where they will be setup at.
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