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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:22 AM
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NYU poll: Two-thirds of U.S. Jews back Obama over McCain
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 02:40 AM by Behind the Aegis
Source: Ha'aretz

A new poll commissioned by researchers at New York University reveals that American Jews favor Democratic presidential frontrunner Barack Obama over his Republic rival, John McCain, by a 67 ? 33 percent margin.

The survey, which sampled the opinions of over 3,000 respondents - half of them being Jewish - also found that Jews as an ethnic group will support Obama by almost 30 percent more than other white, non-Hispanic voters.

The poll sought to gauge the importance Jewish voters attach to Israel as a consideration in whom they would vote for, with some surprising results. Of all the Jews surveyed who said that Israel is of "high" importance, 63 percent said they would vote for Obama. In contrast, only 42 percent of Jews who said Israel has "very high" importance said they planned to vote for Obama.

Not surprisingly, the Jewish vote swings heavily in McCain's favor among the Orthodox. According to the survey, the Arizona senator can count on support from 75 percent of Orthodox Jewish voters.

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1030165.html



I think this statement: "In contrast, only 42 percent of Jews who said Israel has "very high" importance said they planned to vote for Obama." was supposed to be McCain, not Obama.

Something else to read:

Jewish Voters Favor Obama Over McCain, 57-30 percent; Many Undecided


September 25, 2008 – New York – With less than six weeks to go to Election Day, American Jewish voters favor Senator Barack Obama over Senator John McCain for U.S. president by a margin of 57-30 percent. At the same time, an unexpectedly large number, 13 percent, remain undecided about their vote, according to a new American Jewish Committee (AJC) survey.


Regarding the vice-presidential candidates, 73 percent of American Jews “approve” of Obama’s selection of Sen. Joseph Biden as his running mate, 15 percent “disapprove,” and 13 percent are “not sure.” In contrast, 54 percent of American Jews “disapprove” of McCain’s selection of Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, 37 percent “approve,” and 9 percent are “not sure.”

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Asked which “one issue would you most like the candidates for president to discuss,” 54 percent of American Jews answer “economy,” 11 percent “health care,” 6 percent “war in Iraq,” 5 percent “energy” and “terrorism,” 3 percent “Israel,” 2 percent “immigration,” “education,” “taxes,” and “social security,” and 1 percent “Supreme Court nominations.”

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:23 AM
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1. He's still underperforming here.
Didn't Kerry win the Jewish vote with 80-90%?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:28 AM
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2. 74%
nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:28 AM
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3. No way! Really?
I don't even know how to look that up. I'd be surprised if that were true.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:31 AM
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4. No.
"According to the 2004 national NEP exit poll, Bush captured 25 percent of the Jewish vote in last November's election, compared to 74 percent for Kerry." source

2004*
Bush (R) 24
Kerry (D) 76
Nader (G) <1


*2004 vote based on average of exit polls from CNN, AP, Frank Luntz (JTA, November 3, 2004).

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:44 AM
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5. Ok, so 10 point difference. That's a lot.
Especially if that margin is the same in Florida.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:50 AM
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6. Not ten points.
7 to 9 point spread. This is also comparing where the votes are and where the votes were. Considering 13% are undecided, it is still way too soon to tell, but, as usual, it will be almost 3 to 1, democratic candidate over republican.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:55 AM
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7. I'm just going by the 67, 76 numbers.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:01 AM
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8. Which is 9 points, not 10.
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 03:01 AM by Behind the Aegis
And, as I said, 13% are still "undecided." Generally, those votes will go to the democratic candidate. Just as McCain's popularity is waning in the overall population, it is more than likely doing the same in the Jewish community. I only know one Jew voting for McCain and he is a selfish little prick, and because he is my youngest brother, I am pretty sure I can characterize him as such. Even my brother that voted for Bush (TWICE), as finally woken up and smelled the Matzo Ball soup and realized 4 more years of Republican rule will destroy what is left of his career (he is also selfish and self-absorbed, but now he has a family which relies upon him).
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:19 AM
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9. Sue me, I rounded up. lol
Well hopefully they break Obama's way. I think he needs to hit at least 75% to do well in Florida.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:46 AM
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10. Haha. No lawsuit here.
I feel they will break toward Obama, and we will get to see the end of an 8-year nightmare.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 05:17 AM
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11. The article would be more informative if it had also included past voting patterns. n/t
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 05:38 AM
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12. I can't believe that many Jews support McCain-Palin
A vote for McCain is a vote for Palin as president, can't even the orthodox see that? Do they not realize what Palin and her type of Christians really think about Jews? Have they not seen the video of Rev Muthee talking about Israelites controlling business and the need for Christians to do so?

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 06:51 AM
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13. From a discussion at my synagogue,
one reason given on why the Orthodox are happier with her and McCain, is that they favor school vouchers. This is one area where they are in sync with Christian fundamentalists.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 06:58 AM
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14. Also In Sync On Wars They Themselves Don't Fight In
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 06:58 AM by MannyGoldstein
Ultra-orthodox Jews and Christians Fundies both seem to be all in favor.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 08:59 AM
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15. How do you say, "Yes We Can" in Yiddish and Hebrew? n/t
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:11 AM
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16. I think.....
כן אנו יכולים (Qen Annu Yecholim)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:12 AM
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17. THANKS! n/t
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:33 AM
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18. Thank goodness!
It would seem that the scare tactics are not working. I hope that undecided Jewish voters will choose wisely--if history is any yardstick, they will.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:48 AM
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19. Here's what I cannot understand:
Now, it is often said that one is known by the company one keeps. If that is true, McCain/Palin are terrible people indeed. Certainly not people that any person of Jewish faith or Semitic provenance would want to associate themselves with.

The frothers of the Caribou Breath persuasion are on the very thin cusp of both white supremacism and Christian Identity, if not completely over the line by parsecs. One of the major, genetic-level tenets for these folks is "Da' Evul J00Z!!1!11", complete with the blood libel, The Protocols of The Elsers of Zion(scabrous little tome, that...), pictures with big noses, "Khazar" as a term of profanity and all the other stuff that anyone who has followed these clowns for any period of time knows and despises.

As BTA put it, in the past, his brother has voted repuke out of some sense of self-absorption. One can imagine that some of that came from a sense that his personal economic situation demanded it of him. Still, there is something quite surreal about any Jew in possession of even a fragment of a clue aligning him or herself with a party that openly includes and speaks to in dog whistle words the scum of the earth. For scum they truly are. Nasty collections of every possible regressive gene humans possess, put together in ways that were never meant by nature to exist.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 10:15 AM
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20. I always say...
that any minority group member (or woman) voting for the Republican Party is like a turkey voting for the Christmas Party!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 10:45 AM
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21. ...

Sen. Barack Obama laying a wreath at Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust memorial museum.With him is Yad Vashem Chairman Avner Shalev, center. getty images




Ronald Reagan lays a wreath on the grave of Nazi SS Concentration Camp prison guards in Bitburg, Germany.
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 12:12 PM
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22. Sad to see that any Jew would ally
with the same personality prototypes that went with the Nazis.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:38 PM
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23. No diffrenent than African-Americans and gays who are doing the same thing!
Talk about voting against one's interests!
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