More W.Va. voters say machines are switching votes; In six cases, Democratic votes flipped to GOP

[Faygo Kid]

Source: The Charleston Gazette

WINFIELD, W.Va. -- Three Putnam County voters say electronic voting machines changed their votes from Democrats to Republicans when they cast early ballots last week.

This is the second West Virginia county where voters have reported this problem. Last week, three voters in Jackson County told The Charleston Gazette their electronic vote for "Barack Obama" kept flipping to "John McCain".

In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated.

They also blamed voters for not being more careful. . .

Read more: http://www.sundaygazettemail.com/News/200810180251

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This is a new article that is a followup to the one I posted yesterday.

I think there is no longer any doubt that the GOP intends to try to steal the election in close states through election fraud.

Time to sound the alarm.

[donna123]

1. why is the msm not covering this??

do we have to alert them? emails?

[glowing]

3. Sadly yes, and we have to do it enmasse.. otherwise, they refuse to cover it.

[Phred42]

8. They won't cover this - more importantly WHY AREN'T THE DEMS Screaming bloddy murder?

Where then hell is the DNC?

Howard.....batter up!

[JohnWxy]

39. I'M GOING TO CALL MY SENATOR'S TOMORROW. I HOPE EVERYONE ELSE DOES AND TELL EVERYBODY YOU KNOW

TO DO THE SAME. AFTER THEY STEAL THE ELECTION THEY WILL JUST SAY "GET OVER IT!" LIKE THEY DID IN 2000 AND 2004.

TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GO INTO THE STREETS. I'M GOING TO SEND THIS LINK TO OBAMA TOO.

REALLY, EVERYBODY, WE NEED TO RAISE FUCKING HELL ABOUT THIS BEFORE THEY RAPE DEMOCRACY AGAIN!



RECOMMENDED - (of course).

[villager]

11. as the Romans used to say, "the question answers itself..."

n/t

[ooglymoogly]

29. Because they are too busy blowing the bogus

ACORN charges from the intangible propaganda into the tangible world of the "we make our own reality"; And because they desperately need another Pug in office to rubber stamp the continuing conglomerate takeover of the media. Oh wait; That has already happened.

[redqueen]

33. Because ACORN!

We've been alerting them for years. Congress too.

[Chisox08]

52. Because they are not ACORN

and it is helping republican steal another election. That liberal bias is coming up again.

[minnesota_liberal]

73. Because the GOP is screaming about REGISTRATION fraud

What's happening in West Virginia is ELECTION fraud. And even though election fraud is a million times more serious than registration fraud, the GOP is in charge of the voting machines and perfectly happy to ignore any election fraud as long as it's in their favor.

Paper ballots are the only way to go!

[blackbart99]

85. Its always in their favor...

Its never the other way around. Why...never mind...I'm s weary of this. I just spent 3hrs/day
for three days distributing fliers for the Adams county(CO. Precinct#62). I'm partially
disabled and in a lot of pain. Sorry if i seem bitter...but I have had all I can take.
I vote early tomorrow and then I am done. Vacation next.
:bounce: Just wish i could bounce like this guy again.

[minnesota_liberal]

87. Thanks for doing what you can.

Enjoy vacation and hope for the best.

:thumbsup:

[minnesota_liberal]

89. dupe

Self deleted.

[renate]

100. enjoy your well-earned vacation

I hope you feel better--emotionally and physically--very soon. :hug:

[Peggy Day]

93. Do you even have to ask anymore? The msm is bought and paid for

They couldn't care less about Americans. They have greedy guts, and they are getting theirs.

[sop]

104. Why do the errors always favor the GOP?

Has anyone ever encountered any machines switching votes from Republican to Democratic candidates?

[slackmaster]

106. I don't know that they do

Has anyone ever encountered any machines switching votes from Republican to Democratic candidates?

I haven't, but I haven't personally seen one switching from a Democratic to a Republican candidate either, nor do I personally know anyone who has seen that.

ETA perhaps Democratic voters are more observant than Republicans.

[slackmaster]

105. Are you asking that as a serious question?

This is the YouTube era. Lots of people have cell phone cameras and carry video recorders around.

The bottom line is "Video or it didn't happen". At least an eye witness other than the voter who is making the complaint would make these stories a whole lot more believable.

[NorCalDem]

108. Cause they're so worried about ACORN...

and mere voter REGISTRATION fraud, which of course is not even in the same league as voter fraud, to cover the legitimate voter fraud cases perpetrated by the GOP in the '00, '02, '04, '06, and soon to be '08 elections.

[NoQuarter]

114. Unless someone has video

of the vote changing (with audio that shows no splicing,) no one...I REPEAT... no one will cover it.

[tanyev]

2. Any Republicans complaining that their McCain votes are getting switched to Obama?

Nope, thought not.

[Lasher]

74. I have never known that to happen, not even once.

It's always in the GOP's favor.

[angstlessk]

4. my theory is that where ever you point to on the screen except for a pinpoint

will register for mcsame...that pinpoint must be hit for Obama to register!

[Two Americas]

59. good theory

That would be easy to do, hard to detect, and very effective. I happened to be watching a touch screen being programmed at a packing plant a while back, and what you are describing is very easy to do.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

5. Write the WV Governor and Attorney General. The SOS is a lame duck Republican.

Any better ideas? Are there Federal entities that would be better to call upon?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

50. That answered my Q.

SOS=repug

[Supersedeas]

121. another Repig SoS in the mold of Catherine Harris & Ken Blackwell

[fascisthunter]

6. Google Clint Curtis

[Iwasthere]

7. Vote this up

Spread the word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GODDAMNIT!!

[Fly by night]

9. Cattle (and election) thieves should be hung.

See my OP of the same title, just posted in the Election Reform forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=509576&mesg_id=509576

[aquart]

21. Hanged, damnit!

Pictures are hung. People are hanged. Some gay guys are hung but that's a whole other thing.

[Fly by night]

23. Oops. Too late to change my OP. Thanks for your correction.

If I thought stealing cattle or elections would make me better hung, I might be tempted ....

Not really.

[Nambe]

10. At least it is being looked at¿

[Sydnie]

12. Get the word out!!! now! n/t

[Autumn Colors]

13. ELECTION fraud, not VOTER fraud

Please, everyone, use the right terms when trying to get the MSM on board. Don't inadvertently help repeat GOP memes.

The key is who is supposedly perpetrating the fraud.

The GOP screams it's "voter fraud" to point the finger saying it's the voter committing the fraud (i.e. by falsifying voter registrations, etc).

When you talk about elections being stolen by machines flipping votes, purging eligible voters from voting rolls, etc, that is "election fraud". Perpetrated by those who would COUNT the votes, not those who cast them.

Let's keep the terms straight, shall we?

[Faygo Kid]

14. Actually, I used voting, not voter. But I will make the change.

Try not being so angry next time.

[Hope And Change]

15. K & R!

[tbyg52]

16. You know what really scares me?

Nothing says they can't program these monstrosities to display a Democrat but tally a Republican. There is no earthly way to trust these things, no matter what.

[KaryninMiami]

17. Please send this to the MSM- and let's make a promise that we all do this - every time-

with every report like this - every time we see one. AND it wouldn't hurt to send this also to the Obama campaign as well- the more we bombard the media with these reports, the more we raise our chance of having them pay attention. Maybe this is the year we finally break through the silence!

I saved this from a previous post from aa fellow DUer regarding contacting the media:

Here's your "CONTACT THE MEDIA NOW" friendly Assistant! DO SOMETHING!
Whether it is the Push to skew towards McCain, plain ol' GOP bias, blatant sexism, ugly racism, or just totally incorrect reporting.....give media a piece of your mind! Drop a tip on a good story to our "friends", holler at the biased ones, write a letter to the editor of newspapers!

Don't just get pissed; do something!

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[lifesbeautifulmagic]

18. Thank you for posting this, really thanks, I am bookmarking it

so I can use it again when ever needed.

[Turborama]

84. Sorry if there an overlap with some of these but here's some more MSM contact details ...

Radio talk shows' numbers

The Alan Colmes Show Alan Colmes 1-877-FOR-ALAN M-F, 10pm - 1am ET

Battle Line with Alan Nathan Alan Nathan 1-800-510-TALK M-F, 12pm - 3pm PT

Bill Bennett's Morning in America Bill Bennett 1-866-680-6464 M-F, 6am - 9am ET

Common Sense Radio With Ollie North Oliver North 1-888-99-NORTH M-F, 2pm - 5pm ET

The Dennis Prager Show Dennis Prager 1-877-243-7776 M-F, 9am - 12pm PT

The Don Kroah Show Don Kroah 1-888-293-9282 M-F, 5pm - 7pm ET

Dr. Laura Dr. Laura Schlessing 1-800-DR-LAURA M-F, 12pm - 3pm PT Ed

Schultz Show Ed Schultz 1-877-934-6833 M-F, 3pm - 6pm ET

G. Gordon Liddy Show G. Gordon Liddy 1-800-478-7111 M-F, 10pm - 1am ET

Glenn Beck Show Glenn Beck 1-888-727-BECK M-F, 9am - 12pm ET

Good Day USA Doug Stephan 1-877-541-5250 M-F, 5am - 10am ET

Hot Talk with Scott Hennen Scott Hennen 1-800-279- 9329 M-F, 8:30am - 11:30am ET

Hugh Hewitt Show Hugh Hewitt 1-800-520-1234 M-F, 3pm - 6pm E T

Imus in the Morning Don Imus 1-800-370-4687 M-F, 5:30am - 10am ET

Janet Parshall's America Janet Parshall 1-800-343-9282 M-F, 2pm -5pm ET

Jim Bohannon Show Jim Bohannon 1-866-505- 4626 M-F, 10pm - 1am ET

The John Gibson Show John Gibson 1-888-788-9910 M-F, 6pm - 9pm ET

The Larry Elder Show Larry Elder 1-800-995-2779 M-F, 3pm - 6pm PT

Lars Larson Show Lars Larson 1-866-509-LARS M-F, 11am - 3pm PT

Laura Ingraham Show Laura Ingraham 1-800-449-8255 M-F, 9am - 12pm ET

Mark Levin Show Mark Levin 1-877-381-3811 M-F, 6pm - 8pm ET Michael

Medved Show Michael Medved 1-800-955-1776 M-F, 3pm -6pm ET

Michael Reagan Show Michael Reagan 1-800-468-MIKE M-F, 6pm - 9pm ET

Michael Savage Show Michael Savage 1-800-449-8255 M-F, 6pm - 9pm ET

Neal Boortz Show Neal Boortz 1-877-310-2100 M-F, 8:30am - 1pm ET

News Beat with Blanquita Blanquita Cullum 1-800-510-TALK M-F, 2pm - 3pm ET

Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly Bill O'Reilly 1-877-9-NO-SPIN M-F, 12pm - 2pm ET

Rush Limbaugh Show Rush Limbaugh 1-800-282-2882 M-F, 12pm - 3pm ET

Sean Hannity Show Sean Han nity 1-800-941-7326 M-F, 3pm - 6pm ET


The lists below can be used with outlook...


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[quidam56]

19. FOX NEWS WON'T PICK THIS UP, THEY ARE TOO BUSY

Being a a three week long 24/7 infomercial for McCain. Wish SEAN HANNITY WOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP ! http://www.wisecountyissues.com

[sce56]

20. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

Can anyone get the Obama Campaign to respond to this?

[elleng]

71. Send to [e-mail]

.

[KaryninMiami]

22. Does anyone have the email address for Chris Mathews or Hardball?

I just heard that there's a special edition today at 5pm-- this is an important story that we need to get over to them right away. Also the reports from TN that Fly by Night has been reporting on.

[dana_b]

40. did you try [e-mail]?

I know that's how Countdown's e-mail address works. I e-mailed Rachel and Countdown but forgot Hardball.

[LisaL]

24. If it's a random glitch, then it should also be switching from

republican to democrat, and I haven't heard anything like that alleged. WTF?

[TheEuclideanOne]

31. Their still working out the kinks in the system. Apparently there

is a problem still. It shouldn't be showing the changes on the screen before recording the switched vote. I am sure they will fix it before November 4th.

[blackbart99]

88. That will never happen...

The program is written to steal every third of fourth vote. If they steal too many
it would be too obvious. Can't have more votes cast than registered voters now can we?
:kick: :patriot:

[mbee]

25. Yea, I wonder when Lou Dobbs will cover this one or

does he only cover Acorn!

[AndyTiedye]

26. West Virginia is ALREADY STOLEN Unless We Can Stop Them From Using These Machinez!

I hope the Obama campaign has some good lawyers. LOTS of good lawyers. We're gonna need 'em!

[graywarrior]

27. This country will not stand for another appointed president

[Lautremont]

28. This is the only possible response:

[Gman]

30. Why is it you never hear of McCain votes or GOP votes flipping to Democrat votes?

I think we all know the answer to that.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

32. Democratic lawyers needed in each of those polling places

If this vote fraud is occurring in specific polling places as recorded above, the local Democratic Party needs to get lawyers and film crews there. They need to notify Obama-Biden headquarters.

If I were a voter and the machine changed my vote I would be screaming bloody murder that the machine was not allowing me to vote. I would demand photographic evidence be recorded. I would scream loud enough so the attorneys outside could hear me and enter. I would demand witnesses. And yes, I would continue until I was arrested if necessary.

I cannot believe there are still states in which the citizens have allowed electronic voting without hard backup. In my county, all the ballots are read into a computer ballot box and validated instantly. However, all the paper ballots are retained in case of recount requests and or verification.

For county clerks to say "the problem is isolated" is confirmation that the problem exists. What more do the attorneys need.

[loyalkydem]

34. Email

Keith and Rachel this, they will give it the attention it needs

[greenman3610]

35. Copy and paste this (below) into an email to your most media savvy/connected friends

I am sending this to all my active , media savvy friends.
Please help get this critical story more attention in the
mainstream media.

http://www.sundaygazettemail.com/News/200810180251

More W.Va. voters say machines are switching votes
In six cases, Democratic votes flipped to GOP
By Paul J. Nyden

WINFIELD, W.Va. -- Three Putnam County voters say electronic voting machines changed their votes from Democrats to Republicans when they cast early ballots last week.

This is the second West Virginia county where voters have reported this problem. Last week, three voters in Jackson County told The Charleston Gazette their electronic vote for "Barack Obama" kept flipping to "John McCain".

In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated.

They also blamed voters for not being more careful.

"People make mistakes more than machines," said Jackson County Clerk Jeff Waybright.

Shelba Ketchum, a 69-year-old nurse retired from Thomas Memorial Hospital, described what happened Friday at the Putnam County Courthouse in Winfield.

"I pushed buttons and they all came up Republican," she said. "I hit Obama and it switched to McCain. I am really concerned about that. If McCain wins, there was something wrong with the machines.

"I asked them for a printout of my votes," Ketchum said. "But they said it was in the machine and I could not get it. I did not feel right when I left the courthouse. My son felt the same way.

[jennied]

36. What can we DO about this?????????

[IndianaGreen]

37. Hello DNC, where the HELL are you?

Get some lawyers down there pronto!

[CreekDog]

38. To the traditional media, ACORN is a big deal, this is not

:eyes:

[dabenpb]

41. Get it on video.

Someone in W Va needs to get this happening on video and then submit it to the media. It should be easy with a cell phone.

[dansolo]

42. Until someone catches it on film

Believe me, one clip on YouTube showing the vote automatically switching and the media will be forced to investigate it.

[spinbaby]

46. We have a lot of DUers in West Virginia

Every one should be taking cameras in to vote.

[tclambert]

47. Video of someone voting?

Don't think that's allowed. Remember the concept of a secret ballot?

These voting machines actually enhance the secrecy of the ballot. Not even the voter knows who he voted for!

[dabenpb]

53. Its ok if the voter does it themselves.

[Two Americas]

61. their own vote

A person could videotape their own vote. You are right about videotaping someone else's vote. Were someone caught doing that, THEN the media would be all over the story - "Dems intimidating voters, breaking the law!!!" I can just hear the right wing pundits going on and on about the sanctity of the secret ballot, and how Dems are destroying that.

[slackmaster]

107. The secret ballot is not compulsory

You can take someone into the voting booth with you.

[bkkyosemite]

43. I emailed several and cut and pasted...did we contact Obama?

[helderheid]

44. Does the Obama camp know???

[Ken in SF]

45. Made a plea to Byrd and Rockefeller

Just sent this message to Byrd and Rockefeller, though I doubt it will do anything.

Dear Senator,

I am not one of your constituents but want to call out this example of election fraud.

http://www.sundaygazettemail.com/News/200810180251?page=2&build=cache

The Charleston Gazette-Mail is reporting multiple cases of electronic voting machines flipping votes from Democratic to Republican. The election officials in these counties are all Republican and are blaming the voters.

I know that this is a state responsibility, and therefore out of your span of control, however you are in a position to attract media attention to this issue.

The media attention paid to this ACORN issue is absurd. Fictitious voters do not show up to vote. However, when voters doing their patriotic and civic duty leave a polling place uncertain that their votes will be counted properly, our entire system of democracy is at stake.

Please Senator, use the power of your office to shine media attention on this issue so that it may be fixed before November 4.

[Pastiche423]

64. As one of The Senator Byrd's heroes in 2002

I wrote him as well.

Thank you for putting the idea out there, Ken in SF!

[Hulk]

48. What a "coincidence", eh?

Could have bet what's left of my 401K that it would be Democratic votes being switched to repugs.

[JohnWxy]

49. national media list link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x1903

[JohnWxy]

51. Diebold changed it's name to Premier Voting Machines - I wonder if this is their handy-work.

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/08/16/diebold_name/

[OregonProg]

54. Email sent

They had better not ignore or trivialize this.

[LiberalLovinLug]

55. If McCain "wins" what will you do?

I would hope that every Democrat would take to the streets until a proper investigation is done. Even if it means delaying the outcome for a month.

Of course it would be difficult to even prove anything in areas where they use machines with no paper trail, but if they could at least look at counties where exit polls were not supported by the votes cast it would be good.

Democrats should be ready to act if (when) Diebold etc. does it again.
Can you imagine the rabid right if this happened to them 3 times in row? My fear is that while a minority of good folks, like those on this board, may scream bloody murder and march for investigations, most moderate Democrats will fall in line and think its all hopeless.

I guess the key is Obama. Will he fold like a tent as Kerry and Gore did? Or will he risk being branded a 'sore loser' and having a tantrum if he stalls on conceding. The thing is he has a lot to lose but also a lot to gain if Diebold and other Repuke led companies are proven to have corrupted democracy. Not only would Barack be President, and Diebold executives led away in handcuffs, but America's voting system might finally have some oversight and hopefully a paper ballot system. That would fair well for Democrats in the future.

[Popol Vuh]

56. Sorry to be a party pooper, but

Write to whoever you wish. But in my opinion it ain't going to do anything beyond getting a little lip-service. Our corporate politicians and our corporate media have already been advised of this problem and have had plenty of evidence provided to them. Have they rectified the problem? Nope.

Then it seems our elections are to an extent just a circus act to have you and I believe we don't live under a corporate dictatorship.


I am just saying.... :shrug:

[BeHereNow]

60. I tend to agree with you, unfortunately.

Voters should have NEVER accepted the loss of paper trails.
Time to think about living in another country, because
I adamantly believe they are going to steal this one too
and the Americans people wont do jack about it- AGAIN.

BHN

[Popol Vuh]

67. Sad but true.

I myself am of the opinion that so long as we have a voting system controlled by them (the corporations) and not by us the people. How can we expect it to represent us and not them? Or put another way. I believe if you have a corruptible system then its only logical to expect corruption.

[StarryNite]

57. How many flips went unnoticed?

I'm sure there are a lot of voters that did not think to watch to see how their vote registered. They know they selected correctly so they don't bother to watch and see what happens next. Of course that's what "they" are counting on. That people will never even catch it.

[glinda]

58. When it flips and they try again they

just give additional votes to McCain. This has got to be covered on the news. Someone has to do something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Cannot ignore this one.

[lonestarnot]

62. Locking and loading!

[Botany]

63. So when are the machines going to flip R to D?

glitch, program error, hardware error, voter mistake .....

all bull shit ... computers do what you tell them to do.


*****


This is the second West Virginia county where voters have reported this problem. Last week, three voters in Jackson County told The Charleston Gazette their electronic vote for "Barack Obama" kept flipping to "John McCain".

In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated.

They also blamed voters for not being more careful.

[RubyDuby in GA]

65. This happened earlier this year to our friends right here in Covington, GA. USE A PENCIL ERASER!

Use a pencil eraser to touch the screen.

Seriously, Democrats in WV, make flyers - do whatever you have to do to make sure people don't touch the VOTE button. Get one of the election people, its their job to make sure your vote is correct.

[Puzzler]

66. Nothing to see here... move on...

...(sarcasm).

[proud patriot]

68. we need to get the word out

I'm still hopeful we'll outnumber the
cheaters

[Pab Sungenis]

69. Why isn't anyone in WVA SUING to STOP VOTING on these OBVIOUSLY DEFECTIVE machines?

Yo! WVA Democratic Party! SUE! WE'LL donate to fund it.

[elleng]

72. Machines themselves prolly not defective;

its the way they are 'set,' 'coded,' or somesuch, which can be altered.

[jazzjunkysue]

70. [e-mail]

I just sent it over. Send your own.

[jtrockville]

80. I sent it here too: [e-mail]

[SoCalDem]

75. DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT

Sounds like they bought Etch-a-Sketch voting machines there.. Of course the "vote-flip" was probably supposed to happen "inside the machine" , but why trust these stupid machines? Haven't we learned ANYTHING in 8 long years??

[tclambert]

116. Paper is not a perfect solution.

It does at least give you the means for a manual recount. But the oldest form of election fraud was called "stuffing the ballot box." And it's pretty simple. Someone says, "Look, a UFO!" and when everyone looks that way, he slips a handful of previously filled out paper ballots into the ox. Or they wait for the one honest election worker to go to the restroom, then swap out the entire box.

The real solution is to win big.

[BlueDonkey08]

76. FRAUD!!!!!

FILTHY BLOODY MURDER I TELL YOU!!!!! :angry:

Whoo, nice to get that out of my system.

Reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Homer goes to vote for Obama but the machine changes it to McCain...

We need to do something about this. I wrote to Keith and Rachel, hopefully they can smash this.

[BlueDonkey08]

77. Correction

Sorry, I meant

:mad:

[zelta gaisma]

78. IMPOSSIBLE! computer error?!

Oh come now... touch-screen voting machines WRONG!? How could you even Imply such a thing!?
Especially since and I quote "In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated." Could there be ANY doubts to these "fine upstanding people" and their honesty?
Hmmm who was that man that went to jail and wrote a book about how to steal an election?? Does anyone here really think he's the only one that knows how to do it? Or even the only one doing it? Even with Obama so far ahead in the polls I'm still afraid the GOP is going to steal the election. Of course I'm paranoid by nature but still..

[CADEMOCRAT7]

79. Bait for the GOP criminals, steal the election.

Go ahead, steal it. Then, the lid will be blown wide open on this criminal behavior, and the thugs behind it. This year is very different. There is too much support on many different levels. Obama has more power. The criminals will be caught and prosecuted. They do not know who they are dealing with this time.

[zelta gaisma]

81. hope pray freak out

I SO hope it doesn't come to that but if it does I'm hoping beyond hope that your right. Hell I still have nightmares of the GOP staging some sort of "national emergency" to "postpone" elections or just to declare Martial law during elections.

[BrklynLiberal]

82. Kicked and recommended....

[Iwillnevergiveup]

83. Two glimmers of light here

1. It's being picked up very early.

2. Responsible media people are being alerted.

My God, this is unforgivable. I mailed in a ballot in CA today for Obama - do West Virginians not have that option?

[Turborama]

86. There's more. From Daily Kos: "SCARY! Voting machine didn't want me to vote for Obama"

"Yesterday I had the great pleasure of heading in to my county municipal office to vote early. I was SO excited to finally get the opportunity to "pull the lever" in this decision.

THE PROBLEM was that my touch-screen voting machine inaccurately put a green check mark in the McCain/Palin box when I touched my guy's name. I followed the instructions and touched the incorrect check mark to "de-select" it and then used my pinky instead of my index finger to select Obama/Biden. That wasn't the end of my frustration, though."

Full story:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/1070/1027/236/634390

[Turborama]

90. Evidence of how this election is going to be hacked. (Videos)

I posted this a while ago on another forum but no-one seems to be taking any notice.

Does anyone have contacts with the Democratic party? If so, please pass these vids on...

RECENT NEWS ON THE HACKING OF VOTING MACHINES:


REPUBLICAN ELECTION CONSPIRACY 2008...A MUST WATCH!!!!!
This is a hacker testifying in court...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTvTPDbKzI

Princeton scientists Hack Diebold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

UCSB Scientists Reveal Vote Hacking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwCVB5CKkak

Evaluating the Security of Electronic Voting Systems
Are your votes really counted?
http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/voting/

[glinda]

92. How recent is the video on the Programmer?

When did this take place? Is is recently???????

[Turborama]

94. After some digging I've come up with the affidavit from 2004 and more

What I think may be the original youtube upload:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eQBdl-wiKQ

WHISTLEBLOWER AFFIDAVIT: Programmer Built Vote Rigging Prototype at Republican Congressman's Request!
CLAIM: Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) Asked Company to Create E-Vote Fraud Software!
http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1155&mode

Affidavit
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf

[Turborama]

95. Here's a longer version of the hacker in front of the U.S. House Judiciary Members in Ohio

http://www.imeem.com/hulksmaash/video/M528muGH/clinton_eugene_curtis_us_house_judiciary_members_in_ohio/

[Turborama]

91. Must see documentary from Aljazeera International about the 2006 Sarasota vanishing votes scandal

People & Power: Protecting Democracy

In Florida not only have the election processes broken down but also the computerised voting machines and vote counting systems have failed and miscounted or lost votes.

In 2006, Sarasota County’s election suffered , 18,412 lost votes that were apparently cast, but never recorded by voting machines.

Florida Fair Elections is a grassroots group founded by Susan Pynchon. Susan and her colleagues investigated Sarasota’s lost votes, obtaining more than 10,000 election records.

Neither she, nor the Government Accountability Office in Washington DC who also researched a report, found where the votes went.

Now Susan Pynchon is running for the office of Supervisor of Elections as an election reform candidate and set out to observe, monitor and film the vote counting process in her county.

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/peopleandpower/2008/10/2008101612835509851.html


Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DEQfEQ-lG4

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFhDxkOHrfI

[City Lights]

96. Time to take a sledgehammer to those machines!

:nuke:

[catgirl]

97. We needs protests to get MSM to pay attention to this.

[Vektor]

98. The Obama camp DOES have lawyers supervising this sort of thing.

They need to be alerted, and given the contact info of that county's board of elections/county clerk.

[TexasLawyer]

99. Paragraph 15 from an article about "glitches" in Houston Texas

<The Harris County clerk's> office was informed early today that some of the first voters had cast straight-ticket Democratic ballots and then discovered that the electronic machines listed them as voting for John McCain in the presidential election.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6068201.html

[Hubert Flottz]

101. We may need to call in the UN like they do in other third world

dictatorships.

[zelta gaisma]

112. Do you think it would work?

What does the UN do if there is naughty hijinks in 3rd world elections? Other than watch and report, I mean.

[bjobotts]

102. Obama has attorneys to deal with this so where are they?

[bjobotts]

103. How come it only flips votes from dem to repubs? Need poll exit tracking there

[Rainngirl]

109. It happened to me

back in 2000 when I was trying to vote for Gore. Three times in a row, every time I pressed the on-screen button with Gore's name, bush popped up. THREE TIMES!! If I hadn't been paying attention so I could back space and re-do it, I would have --shudder-- voted for bush!! I thought it was a fluke back then because we hadn't heard about the "defective" machines yet. But, boy, if it happened now, I would be screaming bloody murder and scaring all the old people at the polls. I am voting absentee now, and will hand deliver my ballot. I do not trust those vile thugs. Cheating is the ONLY way they can win. I am so freaking fed up with them!

[slackmaster]

110. I take it the machine behaved correctly on the fourth try

What do you think was really going on?

[MetaTrope]

On the fourth try, the screen registered for Obama

and the machine sent its vote for McCain over the network.

[slackmaster]

120. ...The key point being we have no way of knowing what vote registered

Regardless of what the machine displayed on its screen at any given time.

Hand-counted paper is possible to control and audit. Electronic machines are not.

Frankly, I am very skeptical of statements like "the machines only switch Democratic votes to Republican". It may be that they switch votes randomly and Republicans aren't as observant as Democrats. Or that Democratic voters, sensitized by repeated stories of alleged election fraud, are more likely to notice unexpected behavior by the machines. One control to minimize the impact of error would be randomizing the order in which candidates appear on the ballot, as is done with paper systems. Has that been done with the electronic ones, and applied in such a manner that the programmers upstream could not predict which button corresponds to which candidate? That would not be hard to implement.

A systematic rigging of the vote by machines would require either a very large conspiracy that went all the way down to the county registrar level, or a very small one consisting of hard-core techies who have been corrupted by high-level party operatives. In either case the conspirators would have to be uncommonly loyal to their cause. Even in a very compact operation, there is always a chance one or more programmers, QA managers, etc. would become alienated and turn state's evidence against their leaders.

I'm not saying there is nothing going on, but I find it curious that after eight years of this there still isn't a smoking gun. Sure, we have a few videos of former Diebold employees and consultants talking about suspicious activity and a general disregard for proper stewardship over the public trust. Many people have gone on at length about how such a fraud COULD be perpetrated, but not one person has yet come right out and said that he or she has seen it personally.

[BeHereNow]

113. Welcome to DU, and you're in good company-

We are all sick to death of them.
On BOTH sides of the aisle.
Thugs and treasonous bastards and bitches abound in all branches of
our so called "gub-mint.".

BHN

[peace13]

111. Why oh why do these people use the machines?

Paper please at all cost. Even if you have to have an Absentee ballot and leave town for the day. These machines are jokes.

[Name removed]

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[trickyguy]

117. You'd better call the lawyers and have plenty of poll watchers around.

[fed_up_mother]

118. Anyone with small cameras that take video should bring them in the voting booth

Spread the word! Send out as many mass emails as you can to get people to video their voting.

[Larry L. Burks]

119. Now that's Funny

Flipping was reported in Texas when they voted straight ticked. See Texas DU Page.


The thing is that Wwhen ever you vote straight ticked. You only mark one box.
There is no way possible that they could have made a mistake.
You don't mark any other boxes.
The guy that wrote the program for this machine must have been a moron.

He just screw the pouch.

You can't switch the presidential vote. When you mark one box. The straight ticket box.
That's why I voted straight ticket. There can be no mistakes this way. It's the smart thing to do these days.
If every body voted straight ticket. It would be really hard to explain how all those votes came up for Mc Cain. Now wouldn't it.
We're talking Voter Fraud big time here.
They are so sued right now.
The people that made those machines have just committed Voter Fraud. That's a felon. A crime.
Proof of a felony is also proof of a court. In a civil action.
They have just violated your civil right.
We can collect 10,000 dollars for vote that was switched. From the people that made the voting machines. 10.000 X 200,000 voters. That's a lot of money.

Must have been another Bush appointee.

It's all starting to make sense now.

Bush has tied the hand of the Justice Department. The courts will not allow any such suits to move forward.

When Obama get in to office. He is going to take the chain out from around the neck of the Justice Department and turn them lose.
Now that's funny.
Larry L. Burks

[TriplD]

122. I guess the FBI is going to focus on ACORN and let...

the criminals come in and cover their tracks:



Checking Complaints of Machines Switching Votes
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP)
Posted: 7:30 PM Oct 20, 2008
Last Updated: 2:59 PM Oct 21, 2008

An official from the manufacturer of touch-screen voting machines is on the way to West Virginia following complaints that people in two counties saw their votes switched by the machines.

Secretary of State Betty Ireland says an official with Nebraska-based Election Systems & Software is heading to West Virginia to look into the complaints, which come from Putnam and Jackson counties.

Ireland says the machines have been repeatedly tested and are reliable. She believes some of the voters may be touching the wrong parts of the screen, and says voters should tell poll workers when there's a problem.

//

Ireland says she wants an official from the company to check the machines to make sure voters have absolute confidence in the process.

http://www.whsv.com/westvirginiaap/headlines/31317909.html