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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:59 PM
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CBS Poll: Uncommitted Voters Say Obama Won Final Debate
Source: CBS News

As in the previous debates, CBS News and Knowledge Networks have conducted a nationally representative poll of uncommitted voters to get their immediate reaction to tonight's presidential debate.

In the first presidential debate, second presidential debate and vice presidential debate, more uncommitted voters said the Democratic candidate was the victor.

And it looks like tonight's results will make it a clean sweep. These numbers are preliminary, and will change slightly as more respondents are added, but here's where things stand with most of the results in:

Fifty-three percent of the uncommitted voters surveyed identified Democratic nominee Barack Obama as the winner of tonight's debate. Twenty-two percent said Republican rival John McCain won. Twenty-four percent saw the debate as a draw.

More uncommitted voters trusted Obama than McCain to make the right decisions about health care. Before the debate, 61 percent of uncommitted voters said that they trust Obama on that; after, 69 percent said that. For McCain, 27 percent trusted him to manage health care before the debate; 30 percent said so afterwards.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/15/politics/horserace/entry4525171.shtml
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:01 PM
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1. Has any candidate won all the debates with such ease?
Four for Four baby!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:02 PM
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2. Clean sweep. Game and series over.
It's time for President Obama to appoint his Treasury Secretary and get that person completely involved in the economic situation.

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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:02 PM
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3. McCain was his own worst enemy.
He came across as being very angry, rude, and condescending.
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New_England_Patriot Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:25 PM
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14. Kind of like... his own supporters!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:04 PM
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4. That's good because the post CBS and ABC coverage I was watching, I thought
they were giving too much credit to McCain.

I've been ass-backwards during these, though. I thought McCain wasn't as bad as everyone else thought in the first two, but I thought he was HORRIBLE tonight (when he received the most praise). I thought Obama tonight was the best, but the commentators said he was 'cautious'.
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:25 PM
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15. Cautious
Yeah its a shame that he almost has to be that cautious.Did you notice he didn't say anything negative about Palin when McCain was attacking Biden. If he ever talked bad about Palin people would rip him to shreads and that is a shame because she needs to be ripped to shreads
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:47 PM
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33. Yeah. I noticed and you're right. I also noticed how classy Obama was giving
credit and being complimentary to McCain, but McCain didn't say ONE thing about Obama in the same manner. What a sleaze.


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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 09:55 AM
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42. That's the change we need!
Obama has an ability to see both sides of a situation. His aproach to a problem is fresh and thoughtful. His response is reasonable. It really showed in the debate.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:40 AM
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Obama's not the one to rip her to shreds.
Biden is. Oh, and she's self-destructing pretty well on her own.

Obama simply didn't want to be drawn into it. By not going there, he marginalized her.
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 08:26 AM
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41. ...
Yeah I didn't say Obama should have. I said she needs to be.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:40 AM
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37. Obama's not the one to rip her to shreds.
Biden is. Oh, and she's self-destructing pretty well on her own.

Obama simply didn't want to be drawn into it. By not going there, he marginalized her.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:50 AM
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38. I think that was by design
I'm referencing the Palin thing. If he had really gone after her, they narrative would have been all about that and might have gotten her some sympathy. Sen Obama's response that it's for the American people to decide if she's ready was the perfect response.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:06 AM
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44. Welcome to DU n/t
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:58 PM
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28. Was Jake Tapper There?
In the last debate, Tapper bent over backwards to give all sorts of credit to John McCain that he didn't deserve. I was forced to conclude that either Tapper had him some McCain-brand manlove or maybe was drunk or something. I swore we watched two different debates.

I think Tapper is holding the Halperin chair of the "We Aren't Nice Enough To Conservatives" department at ABCNews.
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:05 PM
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5. Cnn sayin 3 in a row for Obama!
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:18 PM
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9. Even Fox 4-0 for Obama
Of the sample of independent voters in Fox, 4 made up their mind tonight. All 4 are going to vote Obama.

Hannity must be pulling out his hair.
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:36 PM
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25. Hannity
Yeah I can't wait to see what Hannity has to say about this tomorrow. That man is crazy
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:37 PM
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26. "Hannity must be pulling out his hair."
That's his real hair? Man, I thought it was a bad rug.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:17 AM
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35. Come November 4th and 5th, Sean Hannity will make "Dewey Defeats Truman"
seem like a minor error.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:07 PM
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6. McCain can't control his campaign. He can't control himself.
He can't control the country.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:07 PM
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7. How could a person BE undecided at this point?
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:18 PM
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You get to be on TV and play with the cute dialy thingie
And if you're on the street they let you talk into their can.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:26 PM
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17. Ok, I'll be undecided for a night. Where do I sign up?
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:30 PM
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23. haha
LOL! Only wish I lived in Ohio
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:08 AM
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36. It -- the Person would have to be
Brain Dead--- A flatliner
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:09 AM
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43. I imagine their struggle is between the logical mind...
which ought to appreciate the thoughtful and moderate Obama, and the lower instinctive and subconcious mind, which might see Obama as a threat or an unknown, and someone to be feared.

A person's experiences, even before birth, can have an effect on the development of these parts of the mind. It has been shown that children who are affected by hunger and violence are more often guided by the lower, more animal-like parts of the mind.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:11 PM
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47. I've often thought that many of the folks who blindly follow conservatives were abused as children.
It just jumps out at me.
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:18 PM
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8. Thanks McCain
McCain didn't even have to speak to lose this debate. By just watching his faces you could tell he was clearly going to lose. Who would vote for such a grumpy old man??? Him speaking was just icing on the cake. Thanks McCain for making this soo easy for people!!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:25 PM
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16. McCain's constant blinking was obnoxious.
He looked terrible.

-Laelth
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:27 PM
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21. LOL
lol it was surely hard to look at him
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:16 PM
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31. btw, Welcome to DU!
:dem:

-Laelth
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:40 AM
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34. Close, but...
"By just watching his faces you could tell he was clearly going to lose."

Ummmm, did you mean feces?
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:20 PM
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10. How Could Anyone Still Be Uncommitted
Do these people just go into a voting booth with a blindfold on, spin around three times, and pin the tail on the donkey.

Well hopefully they hit the donkey.

But Holy Buddha on a Popsicle stick what does it take?






Chris
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:22 PM
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12. My thought exactly. Zero respect for their opinions at this point. There's a saying:
Shit or get off the pot.

At any rate, I don't give a rat's ass about undecideds now. They would dumb down Jay Leno's Jaywalkers, which is virtually impossible.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 08:00 AM
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40. I was just chatting with someone in my office
that says she's still undecided. I think she leans republican normally. I asked her what issue hasn't been addressed that she's waiting for and she wasn't really sure about the answer to that. She knows I'm very partisan but I don't hit people over the head with it, I try and find out what their issue is and explain Sen Obama's position. One interesting part was that she felt Obama was going to raise her taxes. As I know she doesn't make $250 (even combined with her husband), I explained the tax plan and told her to go to the website and see for herself what the plan was. She promised to do so. It's not that she's unintelligent or disengaged. She's just busy with a job and a new baby (9 months old). Not everyone is as into politics as we are and although I understand people's surprise that not everybody has made their decision yet, some people are just too damn busy.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:44 AM
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45. Some don't
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 11:46 AM by TrogL
(fixed title to match the question)

We just had an election in Canada. I had an opportunity to be around a Conservative poll worker and we ended up talking about all sorts of stuff just to pass the time. We agreed on practically everything including issues such as affordable housing and homelessness.

At the end of the evening I finally asked him, "why on earth do you call yourself a Conservative? Your ideas place you to the left of the Liberal Party". His response - "I'm an Old Conservative from back in the days when we supported civil rights". In other words, he's voting Conservative even though he totally opposes the Conservative platform.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:20 PM
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11. God. You'd be surprised listening to KKKatie Kouric.
She practically squealed with glee when one of her undecided morons said they were "leaning" McCain. I swear. The idiots they pick for those things.

I was especially disgusted by the guy who said he liked that McCain emphasized being "tough" on spending or some crap, but then pointed out that Barack noted that earmarks = 0.05% of the budget, and then said he still liked what McLameBrain said.

No wonder they gave McBrainDead a big thumbs up for using complete sentences, since many of them clearly struggle with it themselves.

Oh, and when the fuck did "eloquent" become a dig?

Yeah. I think having an inarticulate President should work out really well. Wait a minute, haven't we tried that recently??

Dumbfucks.
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chrisau214 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:26 PM
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20. Eloquent Means Smart Which Means Elitist
Which means he's not like the common folk which means he's different which means he's not white which means he must be up to something.






Chris
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:08 PM
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29. Wait, Obama's not white? Golly, I MUST get
a television set.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:30 PM
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22. Riddle me this.
McCain says that he will use a "hatchet" on spending, meaning
a spending freeze.

And yet, where is all that money going to come from to pay for autism research, help for autistic kids and their parents, building 45 new nuclear plants, and giving every American a $5000 healthcare rebate?

Those things aint cheap.

At one point, I heard him actually say that Americans would pay for it independently of the tax system, presumably through donations.

OK, tell me this. Exactly which Americans are going to do this? The ones the spending freeze won't help at all certainly won't; the ones without jobs won't; the ones in debt won't.

So who's left? The rich, the corporate, the cronies... just imaging the consequent corruption, backhanding, elite networking, bribery, and fraud just boggles the mind.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:48 PM
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46. "Eloquent" is the new "well spoken"
Nice use of coded language for your base, McLame. :thumbsdown:
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:24 PM
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13. I'm #4, come on #5!
This debate was fantastic! It was Barack's game!
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:26 PM
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19. Hmm...maybe I was #5...nt
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:26 PM
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18. Obama
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 10:29 PM by LatteLibertine
has effectively buried McCain. IMO at this point, game over. Senator Obama has impressed me with each debate and has made me feel good about my decision to support him with each one. He's done better in some than others and there's never been a doubt in my mind he won each debate.

I still wonder why the Republicans picked McCain as their champ. Some Republicans I know laughed at me when I declared Obama was going to handle McCain with ease in any debate they happen to have. Obviously, I am not surprised at the outcome, unlike some others. :)
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holly111 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:34 PM
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24. in the bag
Yeah my mom the republican had a look of defeat on her face after this one...he has it in the bag!!
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:53 PM
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27. The
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 10:54 PM by LatteLibertine
only way I could see McCain even having an outside chance is if young people don't get out and vote for Senator Obama. I don't think even that would get McCain a real win though.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:09 PM
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30. Must have been popular.
Both CSPAN and DU took a nosedive for me at 9:01 pm EST. Had to turn on the TV.

I'm surprised it still works. The moment it ended a commentator tried to tell me what they wanted me to think I saw, and I turned it off again.

Obama crushed McCain. Again. That's what I know I saw.
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pyro858 Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:21 PM
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32. Who are these uncommitted voters?
Where ya been the last 8 years, in hibernation?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:51 AM
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39. Same Question I Asked My Wife!!!
How can it be the middle of October and you still don't know for whom you're going to vote?!?!?

Doesn't make sense to me.
The Professor
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