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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:48 PM
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Soldier punished in beating of Jewish trainee
Source: AP

SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) — An Army trainee will face nonjudicial punishment rather than criminal charges for beating a Jewish soldier so badly he was treated by a hospital, the military said Friday, in a move that keeps many details of the attack secret.

Fort Benning commanders decided not to seek a court-martial in the attack on Pvt. Michael Handman and will resolve it as a personnel matter rather than a crime.

"I'm infuriated," Jonathan Handman, the beaten soldier's father, said Friday. "The Army's continuing to do what they tried to do from the beginning, which is just shovel this under the carpet. It should be treated and charged as a hate crime."

Fort Benning spokeswoman Monica Manganaro said the Army would not release the name of the soldier responsible for the attack, the punishment he received or the results of a military police investigation because nonjudicial punishments are protected under the federal Privacy Act.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNWRiNe9MMsgWg92Uqx-FWRUq3HAD93NST483
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:53 PM
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1. Hate Crimes are Domestic Terrorism. n/t
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:55 PM
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2. Once again, the US Army does the completely wrong thing
By not throwing this dick in the brig for a good chunk of his life, they are tacitly condoning this behavior. Shame on them.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:00 PM
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3. They seem adept at sweeping things under the rug
Must be a pretty big rug!
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:34 PM
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4. Huh?
They..... "concluded the attack on Handman wasn't motivated by religious bigotry"....after being told to remove his yarmulke and being called "Juden"


Stick a fork in our democracy, it's over.....Thanks, Herr Bush




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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:36 PM
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5. This is a hate crime goddammit!
And the culprit should be tried as such for violating the civil rights of the Jewish soldier. The Army is protecting the Xtian wackos in their ranks!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:31 PM
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11. It is a hate crime. This really makes me mad.
Notice Fort Benning. Home of the SOA, too.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:45 AM
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19. I hope the kid can sue in civil court and bankrupt the
a**hole's family.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:54 PM
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6. If that isn't a hate crime than nothing is...effing storm troopers!
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R Merm Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:23 PM
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7. This is Standard Operating Procedure for our Christian Army
Does anyone have any doubt that our Armed Forces are quickly becoming a Christian force? And, that non-believers are not being promoted or forced out of the service.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:52 PM
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8. But he was a Jew. He is a believer,.
He just doesn't believe in Christianity.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:56 PM
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9. Yes they're trying to do that to the entire country
WASPS only need apply.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:47 AM
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20. Sure, because when the time comes to attack the domestic "enemy"--
i.e., anyone who isn't one of the Crusaders--it will be hard to successfully round up all the non-fundies if some are still in the armed services.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:31 PM
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10. This pisses me off. This is a hate crime. God, this is infuriating.
Fort Benning. Of course. SOA.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:35 PM
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12. Message sent to "the troops":
Beat up on a loudmouthed k*ke, and you get grounded.

Onward Christian Soldiers.

I wanna vomit.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:37 PM
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13. How the hell is non-judicial punishment acceptable?
He put the victim in a fucking hospital! This is a hate-crime, pure and simple.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:39 PM
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14. Lt. Col. Anthony Benitez
Can anyone find contact information for this asshole?

I am beyond mad. :nuke:
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 12:41 AM
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15. Jesus Christ !!!
A company commander can hand down an article 15,This is the kind of punishment that is given for minor infractions.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 02:42 AM
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16. Why are they protecting him???
Just because you are in the army, doesn't mean you are allowed to commit serious crimes and get away with it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:23 AM
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23. It's not that. Like the Nazis they are patterned after, Bushies ALWAYS protect other Bushies
It can't always be done and keep the necessary Bushie Plausible Deniability, but like the Nazis, the Bushies are working on fixing that.

There WILL come a day when your average Bushie Stormtrooper is as above-the-law as any Nazi Stormtrooper in 1939.

It's coming. It might get stopped, but the odds are long, I believe.

And elections have nothing to do with it.

NOTE: This is NOT suggesting people don't vote. Our ONLY chance to "win" is to flood the system with honest Obama votes, overwhelming the Bushie theft. You also might want to consider volunterering for the Obama Campaign.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:20 AM
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17. can maybe one soldier sue another soldier?
like in a civil suit, one citizen suing another

it could be a way to keep in out in the open.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:26 AM
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18. "decided not to seek a court-martial"
What the FUCK !!!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:48 AM
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21. Just like when Mukasey decided that the violations of laws
in the Justice Department did not amount to crimes, overlooking the fact that the definition of "crime" = violation of laws.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:19 AM
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22. The Bush Army Leadership is corrupt. The Bushies themselves are getting antsy. It's so close they
can TASTE it.

So close to getting their "permission from authority" to make war on Americans.

It's so close, and they can taste their fantasy coming that much closer. Thus, they are having a hard time keeping it bottled up, and it's coming out as an increase in obviously Nazi-like behavori, which is to say Bushie Behavior WITHOUT the Plausible Deniability built in.

OF COURSE the Bushie Leadership is burying this. I am sure, at the highest levels, anyway, such incident make them feel good. Not ALL the officers involved, just the Bushies who are almost certainly in command.

This is EXCITING to them. It shows them that many Amerikan Stormtroopers will do what they have to do when "given permission by authority".

Because anyone with any sense can see that Bushie Rhetorical and Propaganda strategies ae almost identical to nazi propaganda and rhetorical strategies towards the Jews.

Just change "Jew" to Liberal and Jospeh Goebbels becomes Ann Couler, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, or any other of the Legion of Tyrant's Propagandists, in the wink of an eye.

This is not hyperbole, it is REALITY.

Don't believe me? Try it. Take one of hannity's or Coulter's columns and replace German with American, Liberal with Jew. Try it. See if I am lying.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:26 AM
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24. This is MOST CERTAINLY A HATE CRIME!
There are several probable reasons the Army does not want treat this as a hate crime:

  1. Treating this as a hate crime would open the investigation much wider than just one soldier beating another. It is very possible additional victims would step forward.
  2. The Army knows its ranks are teeming with white, angy, KKKhristian types. A hate crime investigation would both antagonize them AND indicate the extent of their infestation.
  3. A hate crimes investigation would probably call into question previous Army investigations, where evidence of hate crimes was suppressed.
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:31 PM
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25. Holy Crap
I hand out Article 15s for relatively minor things (relative to THIS anyway) like DUIs and petty theft at the BX! The Army (which is not my branch) has a reputation for giving out Article 15s like candy, and going for court martial at the drop of a hat! If I went to my JAG with a proposal to offer Article 15 for something like THIS I think he'd go completely apeshit on me!
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