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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:53 AM
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Blair's Trip to Boost Bush*
TONY Blair is to visit Washington soon to boost George Bush’s re-election campaign.

The Prime Minister is seen as a hero by the American people for the UK’s staunch support in the war against Saddam.

Downing Street last night refused to confirm Mr Blair’s plans, but he is likely to make high-profile TV appearances alongside the President in the run-up to the US election later this year.

more…
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004061788,00.html
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:54 AM
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1. I used to like Tony Blair, but he's been undone by the neocons
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:56 AM
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2. Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:57 AM
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3. huh?
"The Prime Minister is seen as a hero by the American people for the UK’s staunch support in the war against Saddam."

Since when?
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:18 AM
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6. That's what I thought
I think they are going to spin themselves into a deeper and deeper hole.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:21 AM
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9. This is the Sun
It's Murdoch's London fish wrap.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:33 AM
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12. WTF? Every pres. POS or poodle story lately has a good punchline.
This is it.

"The Prime Minister is seen as a hero by the American people for the UK’s staunch support in the war against Saddam."

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:01 AM
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4. They are dreaming
Blair won't help Bush - anyone who still likes Blair is irrevocably in the Bushco camp anyway. Seeing the two liars back together will just sicken decent folks.

However, one wonders what fresh outrage they may concoct over lunch, perhaps a little October surprise.
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:13 AM
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5. This won't help Bush much
But it will surely hurt Blair.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:48 AM
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14. At least there's
a little bit of a silver lining to it.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:18 AM
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7. The Sun is full of shit. Last time Blair came to town, he gave a speech
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 01:18 AM by AP
that was very critical of Bush and America in a way that was really fascinating, albeit subtle.

Blair doesn't like Bush. He knows that Bush would like to see him gone. He's not trying to help Bush.

And The Sun is a conservative paper which would like to see Blair gone.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:29 AM
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11. Then why did he help bush and card
"launch the new product" in sept 2002 - with the push for the war vote (and puttng dems in a box for the midterms.) Bush could't do it at that time.... it would look too political. So Blair gives the dodgy dossier piece - and starts speaking out (and he had been relatively quiet on the issue)... just before the war vote - moving the story in the public, giving bush credibility as to why now (remember, Byrd wanted the vote to happen after the election...)

Blair, helped bush reclaim the Senate. I know that you disagree with me, but we could wager on it - I think he will be more help to Bush than any of the democratic candidates over the next 8 months. It will be subtle - but it will be there. Sadly he seems to have made a deal with the proverbial political devil (as you have asserted before he may have felt that he had to, and that in doing so he could assert some direction to bush's foreign policy... ) and it may be more politically hot for him - who echos Bush's rhetoric about the righteouness of the cause of war - to risk a democratic US president who is critical of the circumstances of this war, its conduct, its lack of international coalition building, etc. We differ on our read on this - and only time will tell.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:25 AM
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17. He tried to talk Bush out of it. He actually convinced Bush to ...
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 02:26 AM by AP
focus on the Taleban in Afghanistan first, which is what Clinton asked the Pentagon and the CIA to plan (but was told it was impossible). Read The End of the American Era, The Clinton Wars, and Age of Sacred Terror.

Blair tried to stop Bush. When Bush couldn't be stopped, Blair had to maintain a European voice in Iraq, since what happens in Iraq will have a direct influence on European economic development (and, if Europe's economy gets fucked up it will open the door for fascits -- which is what Blair really needs to stop).
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:33 AM
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13. I've read that Cherie Blair
has said Gore should have been the president, and that she argued with Bush over the death penalty.

Why do you say that Bush would like to see him (Blair) gone?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:29 AM
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18. On Democracy Now, and ex-CIA officer was interviewed
he said that a senior CIA agent told the CIA agent who objected to putting the Niger reference into the SOTU "don't worry, we're going to blame the British for that one."

It's the WH project to undermine Blair and get Tories back in control of the UK, and Blair knows it.

The Bushes are very tight with the Tories.

As soon as Bush got elected, Blair called an early election for ONE reason: to make sure that he wouldn't have to run for PM in a world in which the Bush family is pulling the strings. That early election was a very clear sign that Blair doesn't trust Bush.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:48 AM
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21. I agree, the Sun is RW cobbers
Now why do they keep supporting Blair then AP? Rupert Murdoch's papers over here are very supportive of Blair indeed, much more so than left-wing rags like the Mirror. About the only issue the Sun ever criticizes Blair over is Europe and even then he isn't about to take us into the Euro.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 09:20 AM
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23. But sadly, the Sun supports Blair over pretty much everything
In 1997, Murdoch swung behind Blair & the Sun/Times have been pro New Labour ever since.

However, you're right - the Sun is a right-wing rag.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:18 AM
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26. As in America, the right wing needs labour to build up middle class wealth
which they'll take from the middle class when it constitutes a sweet enough pot.

They don't want to let the people like labour too much, and they're ready to pounce at the correct moment.

See, Tories didn't let the middle class and working class get rich enough to buy cable. Murdoch didn't like that, perhaps. But, don't worrry, Murdoch and the Tories are all about taking whatever wealth Blair gives to the lower three quintiles.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:20 AM
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8. How can Bush
be helped by Tony Bliar(!) who is (hopefully) on the way out too.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:27 AM
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10. Campaign Finance Law Should Include No Foreign Leaders Personally
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 01:28 AM by otohara
campaingning. This makes me ill.

Oh I just bet the British people are going to love this one. They pay for their poodle to come over here and help elect the American president Europeans loath.

I used to think Tony Blair was smart, he's been dumbed down by Bush & Rove.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:08 AM
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15. His wife will leave him if he does I would think
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:20 AM
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16. Hate to tell ya, Tony, but we don't like you, either
You are the Shrub that can speak English.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:40 AM
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20. And they both look like Alfred E. Neuman.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:38 AM
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19. We Shall Open are arms to all those Brit protesters who will be
sure to follow him here.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 09:06 AM
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22. Funny. Blair's been asked to step down. What a hero.
It will be nice to see the two war criminals side by side again!
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:07 AM
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24. This Blair?
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:01 AM
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25. noticed No Ring
must be blair and wife are having problems..

just was watching a tape 2-3-04 of blair and he had no wedding ring on....C-Span kept putting its banner up over his hands when he was speaking...anyone else notice this? I know his wife doesn't like bush and co...
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:54 PM
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27. Oh goody!! Dumb and dumber..no thanks, the first
one sucked and the sequels are almost always worsse.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:07 PM
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28. Such a trollop!
I can't quite get over the "everything for George" mind-set of the current prime minister. What is it with Blair?
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