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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:39 PM
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Melamine Contaminated Food List
Source: Science by David Bradley

As this problem continues to roll along, here is a melamine contaminated food list plucked from the latest news results on the subject:

* Powdered baby milk.
* HK finds melamine in Chinese-made cheesecake.
* Cookies With Melamine Found in Netherlands.
* Mr Brown coffee products.
* Manufacturing giant Unilever recalls melamine tainted tea.
* Melamine Detected in Two More Ritz Snacks.
* More Chinese-made sweets recalled in Japan.
* White Rabbit brand Chinese candy contaminated: Asian health officials.
* Lipton, Glico and Ritz the latest businesses to be affected by milk powder scandal.
* Hong Kong finds traces of melamine in Cadbury products.
* Recalled Melamine Milk Products include Asian versions of Bairong grape cream crackers, Dove chocolate, Dreyers cake mix, Dutch Lady candy, First Choice crackers, Kraft Oreo wafer sticks, M&Ms, Magnum ice cream, Mentos bottle yoghurt, Snickers funsize, Yili hi-cal milk, Youcan sesame snacks and others. Testing of some of those has already proven negative.
* Melamine Found in More China-Made Products, including Heinz DHA+AA baby cereal.
* 305 Chinese dairy-based products temporarily banned in Korea.
* US bloggers have gone so far as to uncover dozens of products recalled in China that were still on the shelves of their local supermarkets.
* 31 new milk powder brands found tainted.



Read more: http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/melamine-contaminated-food-list.html



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There is a bit more. I'm not sure how this breaks down as far as paragraph limits go given the format.

In any event, please pay attention to this information. :scared:

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:42 PM
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1. Thanks.
There go my M&M's.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:45 PM
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2. THIS is the kind of post which needs reccing and kicking! K&R! n/t
PB
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:31 PM
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21. Right you are. K&R
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:44 PM
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35. BUT! Before all of us Panic...How many of these products were sold in USA???
Aren't all of them US Manufacturing Names who were doing manufacturing in China with Chinese Products selling them THERE...and NOT, USA? :shrug:

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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:54 PM
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3. The distribution locations are given for some products.
But not all. Many products are manufactured in different locations for different markets making it difficult for consumers to identify products which may be contaminated.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:58 PM
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4. Bleh. It's going to be in pretty much everything they manufacture
Melamine comes from the pesticides they use.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:47 AM
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57. Actually, it is mainly used in plastics manufacturing
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 06:48 AM by ekwhite
Melamine resin is a common plastic used to make whiteboards, countertops, fabrics, glues, and other materials. Here is an article from wikipedia on Melamine.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:11 AM
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63. It's being put into food products on purpose, because the presence
of melamine artificially boosts the apparent protein content. It's a way to boost profits.

One thing the Chinese government does differently than our government, though, is that when they catch the perpetrators, they execute them, instead of wagging a finger at them and telling them to go forth and sin no more.

Of course, in the US, the guilty parties just launder a bit more money and pour it into the campaign coffers (or even the personal bank accounts) of the politicians or regulatory agents. Then they rename their company and start the whole cycle all over again.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:04 PM
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5. In the Pets Forum there's a post about Petromalt for cats
possibly being contaminated too.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:11 PM
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6. yes, that was me
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 03:15 PM by CountAllVotes
I've been researching this stuff. Those familiar with some of my posts likely know that once I get on a topic, I don't drop it for quite some time. This is one of them as I lost a dog I had adopted 2 years ago. I never knew exactly why the dog got so sick but it was very upsetting and she had been eating a brand of dog food that was recalled more than once prior to me getting the dog.

So, yes, watch out for Petromalt - used for hairballs in cats. The maker of it sold it to another company recently and the price of it has dropped dramatically I noticed. Post can be found in the Pets forum the tile of which is Petromalt.

And now, there are alleged to be 50,000 sick infants in China - this is likely an inaccurate figure I strongly suspect. I believe that perhaps as many as 10X this amount of children have been affected and can only hope I am wrong.

Thank you for your attention.

:dem:

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:08 PM
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51. Had Something Weird Happen To My Dog About 10 Days Ago...
I have a chocolate lab, and labs are FAMOUS for eating almost anything. We've always fed her Science Diet even during the hoopla about animal food scare was going on. I'm very careful about watching her weight and when she turned 3 years old I started her on the "light" brand. She just turned four and has rarely ever vomited. I needed to buy more food for her and when Pet Supermarket was out of the light brand I just bought the regular. She ate it for about three days and then started throwing up quite a few times. I thought she might have eaten something outside that we didn't know about, but then she actually refused to eat the Science Diet food. I gave her some home cooked food and she ate that, but refused to eat the Science Diet food. So I ran to the store and bought some Beneful (sp) and she ate that just fine.

Ultimately, she started acting lethargic and she had a fever so I took to the vet. I took a stool sample, had blood work done AND they x-rayed her. The x-ray showed she had inflammation in her stomach and the vet prescribed medication for her. Since he's cared for her since she was a puppy he knows what we feed her and we all felt she must have eaten something we were unaware of. I told him about the light versus regular and he didn't feel that was the problem. Some people have told me this might have been the problem.

While I can understand the switch might upset her stomach, I'm not sure the switch would cause an actual inflammation. So now I'm beginning to wonder if the animal food is contaminated again. I didn't keep the 40lb bag it came in so I was out quite a few dollars not only for the cost of the food, but around $300.00 to the vet.

She's fine now, but I'm beginning to feel alarmed again.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:05 PM
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67. Science Diet
Veterinarians and even animal shelters are paid hefty amounts to push Science Diet pet foods. I've never had a dog/cat yet that liked it.

I was given a free bag of it when I adopted my most recent kitten (now a cat) from the local shelter and none of my cats would eat it. That right there should tell a person something. If an animal won't eat a certain type of food, something must be wrong with it I believe.

The woman I met up with that had all of the cats couldn't afford expensive food and she feeds them Purina Cat Chow. She happens to go to the same vet I go to and he told her that if she couldn't afford Science Diet that Purina was the next best choice.

I still don't know what to think (I do not feed my cats Purina Cat Chow however) but I'm glad your dog is better now. Keep an eye out for any unusual symptoms. This whole thing makes me really sad, disgusted, and frightened as well.

I believe that it has obviously "trickled down" alright - trickled down to the human food chain. It was probably there before is my belief but no one discovered it until the pet food crisis became a reality. Some people sadly eat pet foods. What a sad way to go out in this life - having a can of cat food for dinner. :puke:

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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:59 PM
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70. My two cats got horrible diarrhea from Science Diet
Formula for indoor cats. I switched to Pet Promise and the problem cleared right up. No more Science Diet in my house.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:04 PM
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50. It is my ardent hope
that Ceiling Cat and Basement Cat team up and kick some Chinese manufacturing ass :)
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:11 PM
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7. But...but...but... won't the Free Market take care of all this?
:crazy:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:22 PM
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9. It is. The free market regulates by death.
When there are sufficient deaths to terrify people from buying a product, its profitability goes down and it is removed from shelves.

The point of government regulation is to remove the product BEFORE the deaths not after.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:31 PM
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42. Exactly.
At some point the morons will stop treating the free market as Gospel. Still waiting for that, after all these years.

Amazing.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:19 PM
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8. This is going to get much bigger
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:30 PM
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10. Why is anyone in Europe or North America importing powdered milk from CHINA?
China has NO dairy products in its traditional diet.

Are they that much cheaper than traditional sources of dairy products, like, oh, I don't know, most of Europe and North America?

The moral of this story is, "You get what you pay for."

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Night_Nurse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:57 PM
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16. Another reason not to shop at WalMart...
I mean, isn't most of their stuff "made in China"?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:35 PM
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11. Finally, a shopping list of christmas gifts to buy the Republickers and Fundies in our lives.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 03:38 PM by IanDB1
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." -- Mark 16:17-18
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/16.html#17

EPA Unlikely to Limit Perchlorate in Tap Water: Pressured by White House, Pentagon
http://tinyurl.com/Mark16-17-18



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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:45 PM
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12. Holly Shit!!!!!!!!!!
How can I sort the China junk from the non-China Junk ? :scared:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:58 PM
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17. my experience re: this
I had to call up several places to find the company itself and query them about their product. Where was it made? Where are the INGREDIENTS from?

You would not know is the answer. It is highly elusive from what I've found. In the case of Petromalt is says Made in the USA but the company named says it is in Canada. When I finally got a hold of them they said they were in Texas!

However, they knew something was amiss w/Petromalt and did not state why this product had been sold to another well-known company. Price is now about 1/2 of what it once was I've noted. That right there is the "tip" IMO, especially the way prices on everything have been going up so fast.

Luckily I ran into that old woman that had owned up to 17 cats at one time and she told me about it. Otherwise, I'd have never suspected how this whole scenario actually works. I'd say almost anything that is "made" requiring specific ingredients is suspect, esp. being melanine is an "odorless, powder" of sorts with a protein content.

I don't trust them, that is for certain.

:dem:

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:27 PM
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47. Full Circle Organics
once told me when I emailed them, that if their product is not marked made in the USA then it could be made elsewhere. Thanks but no thanks is what I said to them and they pawn themselves off as organic.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:46 PM
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13. Okay...so I just pulled the Ritz crackers from my pantry
My mom is saying...that just happened, it wouldn't be in what you bought last month, last week, etc..

I don't care when they found it - it could have been in our food MUCH longer than we have known

...and I went on the recall site (recall.gov)
and found the generic oatmeal from our local grocer is recalled...i called the store but the manager wasn't in, I nhave to try back later to see if he has pulled the items
And I am in a remote, rural area...so this shit is everywhere. I just want to throw away all cereal, crackers, hot cocoa, etc and go back to making everything from scratch... BUT - is my freaking FLOUR safe?

i am pissed and terrified at the same time
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:01 PM
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18. link re: Ritz crackers
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 04:16 PM by CountAllVotes
Seems it was "Ritz Bitz" and I found this link re: this:

Two more snack items have been found to contain the harmful chemical melamine.

The Korea Food and Drug Administration (KFDA) said Tuesday that Ritz Bits Cracker Sandwiches Cheese, made by Navisco Food Suzhou and imported by Dongsuh Foods, and ``gosohan ssalgwaja'' (tasty rice snack), made by a Chinese company Danyang Day Bright Foods and imported by Hwatong & Babanggeu, were also found to contain melamine.

A melamine concentration of 23.3 parts-per-million (ppm) was detected in Ritz crackers, while one of 1.77 ppm was found in the rice snack.

So far six snacks have been confirmed to be tainted with the toxic chemical, including ``Misarang Coconut'' and ``Misarang Custard'' from Haitai Confectionary, ``Milk Rusk'' from J&J International, Hong Kong, and coffee creamer by Yuchang F.C.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/10/117_31913.html

:kick:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:34 PM
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22. After following the links and checking out things
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 04:35 PM by Journalgrrl
It really seems that there is NO definitive knowledge from any of these yutz' yet. I followed the websites for three items in my pantry, followed their websites, filled in the consumer form and asked WHERE DO YOU BUY THIS STUFF FROM??? (wheat gluten, powdered milk products, corn and soy powder, etc)

Let's see how fast they get back to me!

I told them I was a VERY concerned MOM!! Meanwhile, I am banning my kids from eating the crap their grandma buys "cheap at wally world" until I know it is "safe" and that may mean it will NEVER be safe!

shitshitshit, i HATE not knowing where my food comes from!


god, that means I may have to be double careful at the grocery outlet, or maybe not go there at all. Just when money gets tight, this shit happens. If I were wearing a tin hat, I'd think it is an easy way to "off" the low income factor in society!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:02 PM
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28. I'll wear a tinfoil hat on that one too
I think you are right!

After all it is the have nots that do not belong to the "base" so therefore, they cannot accomplish "their mission".

:dem: :kick:

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conflictgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:38 PM
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23. Does anyone know if this includes the Ritz Bits sold in the US, or only overseas?
I know that even the same brands are often made in manufacturing plants more local to where they're sold. I am getting increasingly wary of ANY packaged foods because it's hard to know where it was made and the USDA is not on our side in this. They just finally got around to implementing country of origin labeling (COOL) and there are so many loopholes pushed for by industry that it's not going to help us much. For example, COOL rules don't require as much definition of origin for any mixed-ingredient product, like a frozen blend of peas and carrots or...pet food. :(
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 06:53 AM
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58. Under the new FDA rules, the rice snack would be acceptable
FDA will now allow up to 2.5 PPM melamine in foods.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:47 PM
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14. K&R n/t
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:50 PM
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15. K&R Thank you for the list. n/t
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:13 PM
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19. Thank you .....extremely important information. KandR eom.
peace~
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:21 PM
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20. I have been trying to post everything I find K&R
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:41 PM
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24. KICK
kick

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:47 PM
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25. I bought some cake flour last week. It smelled like formaldehyde.
Cake flour has a higher glutton or protein content to make your cakes fluffier. I didn't use it but I called the company and told them about it. The company out of LA of course claimed it was just fine and dandy to use and that it didn't go near China.

The really weird thing about the flour from Swans Down was that the packaging didn't smell funny at all, just the flour.
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Castleman Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:48 PM
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26. As far as candy goes...
you can count on any candy from Annabelle Candy of hayward, CA. They make UNO bars, Abba-Zabba, Rocky Road, LOOK! and Big Hunk candy, and they are fanatical about buying only American made ingredients. They're safe, and 100% USA made, as is all Palmer holiday themed chocolates. Virtually EVERYTHING from Hershey's is sourced using whatever's cheapest so STAY AWAY! MasterFoods/M&M also uses some foreign sources as does Nestle. I understand that everything from the Tootsie Roll company is 100% USA sourced, but can't confirm, and you're pretty safe with anything from Necco as well.
Might this not be a good time to visit your LOCALLY made chocolatier? If you live in Washington State, you've got Dilletante, Fran's and Boehm's, which are all delicious and locally sourced.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:01 PM
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27. Dollar stores typically carry cheap/foreign candy....EOM
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:43 AM
Response to Reply #27
56. dollar stores carried the bad toothpaste last time around....
would think that would be one of the WORST places.
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aroach Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:47 PM
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29. Just in time for Trick or Treat
So, how many people have already bought these M&M's, Snickers, etc. in the Halloween aisle to hand out for Trick or Treat?

I could go on and on but I won't. This is ridiculous.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:52 PM
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30. Deregulation is so awesome!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 05:53 PM by abernste
I'm so glad we don't have to worry about government agencies interfering in our lives by effectively testing and staying on top of this kind of thing . . .

:sarcasm::sarcasm:
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:29 PM
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85. Yes, Mass Illness or Death is a small price to pay...
...to keep from paying a few extra dollars in taxes. :eyes:
:sarcasm:

P.S. And to keep the "free markets" free.:dunce:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:57 PM
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31. Melamine. It's what's for dinner.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #31
48. Didn't we used to eat off of that stuff.....
back in the 60's? I think I had Melamine dishes.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:18 PM
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54. Wow. I never realized... I have some dishes that I think are made from that.
They're a set I bought about 20 years ago when I was into kitsch stuff. I've always kept them for extras and because they're unbreakable and use them from time to time. Yikes!

I just checked them:
"A BRANCHELL melmac product - finest quality"

Hmmm...

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:06 PM
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65. You're thinking of Melmac.
But wonder what is in that type of plastic. I think I've heard you shouldn't use Melmac in a micro.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:55 PM
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71. From Wikipedia......
Melmac (brand), a brand name of dinnerware molded from melamine resin
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
78. Yep, asked my Mom last night.
She said same.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 03:54 PM
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82. You must be too young to remember...
My first set of dishes when I got married in 1969 were Orange Melmac:) And, yep, I had an avocado refrigerator in my apartment. Tee hee. I'm dating myself.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 01:13 PM
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84. Are you kidding? I ate off Melmac most of my life. I'm 52.
I just didn't know the plastic was melamine. We had blue-green color. I had an avocado Westinghouse washer from the '60's until 2 years ago, just like the white one my Mom had in the '60's. Paid 80 bucks for it in 1990 and never put a dime into it. It finally gave out 2 months before I sold my house. Bought a new one and sold it with the house. Bought a house with appliances included, washer was 5 years old when it died. On my 4th washer in 2 years. Oh, and Mom still has the Melmac.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:58 PM
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32. Kicked, Recc'd, and Bookmarked
We could see this coming


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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:32 PM
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34. Contamination of pet food: Tip of the iceberg ...
I saw it coming too. When the pet food thing happened I said that in fact and was laughed at and told I was crazy.

I've been closely monitoring labels on food since the late 1980s pretty much. I practiced macrobiotics for awhile and this practice forces one to read labels like it or not.

However, the odd thing slips through now and then as is the case with Petromalt.

This practice of adding melanine is being done deliberately. I found that it is expected to find melamine in animal feed from China. That means that the cow/chicken, whatever, also has melamine in them too.

It is a good way for the Chinese to get rid of their toxic waste products - melamine - by dumping it into the food supply. The unwitting consumer simply grazes away at this junk with no question in their mind.

This is dangerous, very dangerous no doubt.

How soon will it be before someone here in the USA dies of melamine poisoning? How many have died already I wonder?


:dem:

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:02 PM
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33. Melamine is why we went pretty much completely organic
pretty much

Grass fed beef (a bit expensive yes) can be cut with a butter knife and my daughter's behavior (never really that bad) is markedly better.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:14 PM
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52. Grass fed beef
also has something other beef doesn't- Omega 3 Fatty Acids (that is a good thing)
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:50 PM
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36. M&Ms? Snickers?
Say it ain't so!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:55 PM
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37. Update:
I just heard on the news from late last night that the government has determined that melanine found in foods is for the most part safe given the amounts being found.

Uh huh.
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

Can you believe this? I call it cover your ass FDA!
:dem:

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:54 AM
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59. Well the primary functions of Bushie Regulators is to protect Corpoations from harm and also,
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 07:54 AM by tom_paine
to keep people from knowing when we ae being poisoned, or if we happen to find out that we are being poisoned, to keep us from finding out how badly.

Wouldn't surprise me (not that I am saying I am certain of it or anything, far from it...this is speculation only) if the Bushies were working with the Chinese at the highest levels to put melamine in our food chain.

IF this is the case (quite a big IF), melamine is probably already in the Chinese Food Supply, and for the same reason it is in the Amerikan Food Supply...some chemical property of melamine desirable to the tyrants who run these countries when consumed in massive quantities by the peasantry.

Yes, yes, I know it's a bit :tinfoilhat: and as I said, it is idle speculation only.

But, what, do you think the high morality of Bushie and Chinese Authoritarians would prevent them from undertaking this deeply immoral act?

:rofl:
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:15 PM
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38. That's scary.

Thanks for posting this information. Some of my favourite snacks are on that list.

I just threw out a Cadbury chocolate bar and chocolate covered cookies that I bought on sale last week. I bet the store knew about the recall
and was trying to unload them before everyone found out. I know they say the problem is limited to certain areas, but I don't trust them. So much of our
food is imported, there's no telling where all the individual ingredients came from anymore.


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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:19 AM
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64. You should not throw that crap out. You
should take it back to the store and demand a refund. If it costs them money, they are less likely to pull that stunt again, whereas if their plan to unload it before the news becomes public ends up paying off, they won't learn their lesson.
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womanofthehills Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:23 PM
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39. China is world's leading supplier of food dyes, additives, citric acid
So even if it's not made in China - many of the ingredients are imported from China. All the bottled ice teas that I drink have citric acid and I recently ready that most of the citric acid is produced in China so I went on the web for a safety data sheet on citric acid and it contains ppms of heavy metals and other toxic chemicals. I sure bet the US is not checking how high the contaminate levels in citric acid are when it's imported. Citric acid is in so many items. I guess I'll make my own ice tea from now on. If I buy organic iced tea, is the citric acid from China?

Someone was talking about their M & M's - even if they are made here they are probably made with food dyes and vanillin from China. An article in the LA times said that China
has become the world's leading supplier of citric acid, sorbic acid,vanillin, xylitol, and folic acid. The LA times article said - U S companies don't always know when their food ingredients originate from because of complex networks of traders and brokers.
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HillRodWins Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:59 PM
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66. See's Candy Tainted with Chinese milk?
http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/photos/sees02_08.html

See's Website that they get their ingredients
"worldwide"!

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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:55 PM
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40. Thank you
I just mentioned this to a co-worker who has two young children (one is still a baby). She apparently had not heard about this until I told her today. I'll be sending her your link tomorrow.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:06 PM
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41. The corporations who outsourced to China deserve this. They really do.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 08:06 PM by superconnected
Look at all the products we can stop buying!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:31 PM
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43. ... because capitalists care .....
only about profit at any cost to YOU ---
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:38 PM
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44. Cadbury products in US are made in US
Cadbury products sold in the US are made in the US and Canada under license by Hershey Chocolate. Hershey insists it does not use any Chinese dairy products in anything it makes.
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Castleman Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:09 AM
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55. Hershey lies, they lie
their Cadbury stuff is all made in their Mexico plant that they opened last year. The very same one they shut down their Northern California plant for! And laid off about 100 people I personally know! Hershey CANNOT be trusted.
However, for those of you close to our fine neighbor to the north, Purdy's and Rogers chocolate is all 100% Canadian supplied and manufactured. With the exception of the beans obviously....:-)
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:04 PM
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72. My mistake
Yes, Hershey is moving much production to Mexico and has closed many plants in the US and Canada. It was my own mistake, not the company's, to leave out Mexico. The company's statement did say they use no Chinese dairy products in any Hershey products.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:50 PM
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45. Thanks for this headsup post.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:04 PM
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46. I'm never going to eat again.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:58 PM
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49. anything in the states yet?
hopefully it'll leave the stuff out of the apple juice. most generic apple juice comes from China. :( although certainly if I was constipated, drinking a 2 liter bottle of the stuff should soften things up :P
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:43 AM
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60. Most apple juice
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 09:45 AM by PATRICK
seems to originate from Chinese concentrates. Plastic bottles seem to have to label country of origin. Other containers don't seem to have that requirement. Mott's uses Chinese juice, all store brands, most popular brands. Those who brag they are USA are the only ones you can be sure of for ANY fruit juice except our california and Florida oranges. Grapes from Latin America, Turkey. Most canned fruit and a lot of canned everything especially tuna is processed in Thailand. Organic juices are "certified" from foreign nations like Turkey as well. "Concord" or Niagara grapes apparently can be grown anywhere and can for some mysterious reason be so preferred to American grapes for such exotic things as processed food and drink boxes that our palate might prefer imported concentrates from Africa and Turkey.

Even the gd OJ is starting to get imported irrationally from other countries. I doubt the concern for freshness and seasonal crops is the only reason we are dieseling foreign concentrates thousands of miles
from countries as trustworthy as China. What exactly is the sanity of destroying world energy resources in transportation, ruining nutritional value, diluting world health standards, crumbling local food subsistence and small farms, pooling tainted additives into all global products, and on and on. How does this benefit anyone in the craziest aspect of global economic "business"? It is wasteful, dangerous and on the face of it fundamentally insane even if- eventually in Global Utopia- all standards are met everywhere for saftey and all the ill economic effects and waste are miraculously.... what?... self-regulated???? Of course, once established, any failure of a global system means the entire failure of the food network whether by poisoning, malnutrition or simple starvation.

Anyone for a cup of sanity?


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:58 AM
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62. San dan donia! Failure of food network, now there is one not being talked about much.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:24 PM
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53. a horrible pox on people that would put those kinds of chemicals in baby
milk, or any other products, for that matter. Sickening.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:49 AM
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61. This was not what Willie Wonka meant when he said you can even eat the dishes
:puke:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:10 PM
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68. KICK, n/t
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ThingsGottaChange Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:43 PM
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69. K & R!!!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:23 PM
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73. Some people here call me a China basher
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 07:33 PM by DainBramaged
I have posted a few articles about this Melamine contamination very recently. I have also posted these pictures on DU and show them in my Journal. After reading the OP, or any of my threads, and looking at the pictures below, ANYONE who thinks China deserves our sympathy and doesn't deserve our condemnation, HAS to be A Reich-Winger. Our dependence on cheap shit made in china or made for use in products made elsewhere MUST end. And does anyone here remember the HUGE drug scandal this year (Tainted Drugs Tied to Maker of Abortion Pill) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/world/asia/31pharma.html, or the contaminated blood thinner heparin from China that injured HUNDREDS and has caused MANY deaths (Contaminant found in China-linked blood thinner)
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/06/business/06heparin.php

Routine tests failed to distinguish the contaminant from the drug, heparin. Only sophisticated magnetic resonance imaging tests uncovered that as much as 20 percent of the product's active ingredient was a heparin mimic blended in with the real thing.


WE AS A NATION MUST RETURN TO PUTTING THE QUALITY IN BEFORE THE NAME GOES ON!





This is the legacy we have created for our children, third-world products in the richest most powerful nation on Earth. Shameful.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:53 PM
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74. I'm no China basher, I support socialist revolution in China.
They've lifted 100 million people from poverty. But this fucking shit has got to stop.

Period.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:01 PM
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75. They lifted those people out of poverty at what cost?
Does ONE person deserve to die for profit?

:hi:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:07 PM
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76. No, not even one. This shoddy quality control must be condemned at every level.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 07:49 AM
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77. The Chinese government needs to rain the melamine manufacturers and get the buyer lists.n/t
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BrainStorm Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:10 PM
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79. "Koala" brand and Nabisco Ritz cracker cheese sandwiches (made in China)
The Dutch Food Safety Authority said Tuesday the chestnut and chocolate flavored cookies from the "Koala" brand are now off the market because of their melamine concentration.

New melamine-tainted products are being announced on an almost daily basis.

In South Korea, officials say the chemical was found in Nabisco Ritz cracker cheese sandwiches and in rice crackers made by the Chinese company, Danyang Day.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-09-30-voa51.cfm
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BrainStorm Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:18 PM
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80. A more detailed list:
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/recalled-melamine-milk-products-list-ongoing

"We are still waiting for the WHO or some other health organization to release a comprehensive list of all recalled products tainted with melamine, but until then here is an updated list compiled from various sources on the internet. Products will be added and removed here as updates occur....

While many of the brands listed below are available worldwide, so far it appears that only Asian products are affected - therefore if you live in Europe or North America, your Snickers bar is probably safe to eat. For now.

North American products are italicized; the rest are products that have been recalled in Asia only."

BAIRONG GRAPE CREAM CRACKERS
DOVE H/NUT ALM & RAISIN CHOC
DOVE HAZELNUT CHOC
DOVE MILK CHOCOLATE
DREYERS CHOC CAKE ICE CREAM
DREYERS COOKIE & CREAM ICE CREAM
DREYERS MINT CHIP ICE CREAM
DREYERS ROCKY ROAD ICE CREAM
DREYERS STRAWBERRY ICE CREAM
DREYERS TOAST ALMOND ICE CREAM
DREYERS VANILLA ICE CREAM
DUTCH LADY STER M LF BANANA
DUTCH LADY STER M LF BANANA
DUTCH LADY STER M LF HNYDEW
DUTCH LADY STER M LF HNYDEW
DUTCH LADY STER MILK PLAIN
DUTCH LADY STER MK LF CHOC
DUTCH LADY STER MK LF CHOC
DUTCH LADY STER MK LF PLAIN
DUTCH LADY STER MK LF SBERRY
DUTCH LADY STER MK LF SBERRY
FIRST CHOICE CALCIUM S ONION CRACKERS
FIRST CHOICE CALCIUM SALTINE CRACKERS
FIRST CHOICE CALCIUM SEAWEED CRACKERS
FIRST CHOICE CALCIUM SESAME CRACKERS
GINBIS ANIMAL BISCUIT
GINBIS PARTY ANIMAL BUTTER BISC
GINBIS PARTY ANIMAL CNUT
GINBIS PARTY ANIMAL SEAWEED BIS
Heinz Intelligence Man Many Vegetable Cereal
KOALA COCOA BISCUIT
KRAFT OREO W/STICK WH CHOC
KRAFT OREO W/STICK WH CHOC
KRAFT OREO WAFER STICKS
KRAFT OREO WAFER STICKS
LIPTON GREEN MILK TEA (UNILEVER)
LOTTE KOALA COOKIES (all)
M&M CHOC CANDIES PEANUT
M&M CHOC CANDIES PLAIN
M&M FUNSIZE MILK
M&M FUNSIZE PEANUT
Magnum ice cream
MEIJI CHESTNUT & REDBEAN
MEIJI FAMILY PACK-GREEN TEA
MEIJI UJIKINTOKI
MEIJI UMAKABO CHOCOLATE
MENTOS BOTTLE YOGHURT
MENTOS BOTTLE YOGHURT PROMO PK
MONMILK BREAKFAST MILK MALT
MONMILK BREAKFAST MILK MALT
MONMILK BREAKFAST MILK WALNUT
MONMILK BREAKFAST MILK WALNUT
MONMILK CHOCOLATE MILK
MONMILK COFFEE MILK
MONMILK HI CAL LOW FAT
MONMILK HI CAL LOW FAT MILK
MONMILK HI CAL LOW FAT MILK
MONMILK HI CAL MILK
MONMILK HI CAL MILK
MONMILK MILK DELUXE
MONMILK PURE MILK
MONMILK PURE MILK
MONMILK PURE MILK
Moosandwich ice cream
MR. BROWN COFFEE 3-IN-1 (LUCKY SUPPLIES)
NABISCO IN A BISKIT CHICKEN
NESTLE MILK & BERRY STARS CRL
NESTLE NES D/STICK MINI VANILLA
NESTLE NES DISTICK MINI CHOCO
Nissin Cha Cha Dessert
NO FRILLS WAFER BLUEBERRY
NO FRILLS WAFER CHOCOLATE
NO FRILLS WAFER PEANUT
OK OK Kaiser Strawberry Dressing Pretzels
OK OK Kaiser Chocolate Dressing Pretzels

Oreo Wafer Sticks
ORION FRESH PIE
ORION TIRAMISU
PEI TIAN CREAM BISCUIT
RABBIT MILK SWEET
SILANG NATURAL OAT CRACKER
SNICKERS CANDIES FUNSIZE
SNICKERS PEANUT CHOCOLATE
SNICKERS SNACKSIZE BARS PNUT
TAKE ONE BABY BITE CARROT
TAKE ONE BABY BITE CK VG
TAKE ONE BABY BITES
VITASOY CHOCOLATE MILK
VITASOY MELON SOYA MILK
VITASOY Q SOYA MILK
WANT WANT MILK CANDY
WANTWANT FLAVOURED MILK
WHITE RABBIT CREAMY CANDY
YILI HI CAL LO FAT MILK
YILI HI CAL MILK
YILI PURE MILK
YOUCAN MASTERBEAN MULTIPACK
YOUCAN PASSION MULTIPACK
YOUCAN SILK SLICED AND PASSION STRAWBERRY
YOUCAN STRAWBERRY MULTIPACK
YOUCAN TRADITIONAL SESAME MULTIPACK
YOUCAN UNUSUAL MULTIPACK
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:34 PM
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81. thank you for posting this!
The more information the better about this!

THANK YOU!!

:kick:

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BrainStorm Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 05:03 PM
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83. No problem
We've got to know.
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