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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:26 AM
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Polls: Obama leads in critical trio of states
Source: Associated Press

Since 1960, no president has been elected without winning two of those three states.

The results are notable because they show Obama in a strong position in the pair of states that put Bush in the White House in 2000 and kept him there four years later — Florida and Ohio, with 27 and 20 electoral votes, respectively.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_battlegrounds



Encouraging indeed. It appears that Pennsylvania is rapidly approaching "Solid Obama" status, with some dramatic upswings in the Ohio and Florida poll numbers.
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mdavies013 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:28 AM
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1. Bush did not win...he stole FL and OH.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:46 AM
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2. Let's not give the man too much credit...
He's too much of an idiot to pull it off himself. It took a network of helpers.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:50 AM
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3. You can start with the media. eom
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:18 AM
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5. Exactly.
And with no exit polls, let's hope Obama retains these margins.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:00 AM
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4. Wow, and this is before the Palin debate
and also before all of the financial fiasco has been assimilated. I just don't see Palin recovering much in this debate. Normally I'd say that a well-coaches debater can come through these things with reasonable-sounding answers that maybe don't actually say much but sound good. And the overall appearance can be positive. And that is especially likely when expectations are set so low. So if Palin were even a minimally qualified candidate, she would stand to gain a lot from this debate.

But she is a fucking idiot. She can't answer the most basic questions, such as naming a newspaper she has read. Lately she seems to know she can't answer any question so she doesn't even try to do so. She simply launches directly into some irrelevant lines. Now, if those disconnected lines made sense and were good rhetoric, she could probably get away with that. But she can't even pull that off in a low pressure encounter with Gibson or Couric. I can't see her getting it together for 90 minuted under the pressure of solid questions and a solid adversary 5 feet away.

And I don't see any way that McCain benefits from Bush's economic mess, now matter how events play out the next few days. His attempt to blame this on Obama were pathetic, and evidently the public is getting their fill of his grandstanding and Hail Mary passes.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:54 AM
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6. It Will Be All Softballs For the Debate, and She'll Be Wired, of Course
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:05 PM
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8. But that's the point. She can't even handle softballs
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 10:03 AM
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7. After the last two Presidential elections, I am afraid to get my hopes up.
But I cannot describe how encouraged I am. I actually feel that there may be hope for us.

And hope is a funny thing. When we are without it, we seem to have nothing. But so little of the stuff goes such a long way. When we have hope, and this candidate seems to inspire hope, we can still accomplish anything.

Still.

Anything.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:11 PM
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9. those purged votes are bothering me.
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