Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Schwarzenegger vetoes universal health care

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 11:43 PM
Original message
Schwarzenegger vetoes universal health care
Source: Sacramento Bee

For the second time in three years, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Tuesday vetoed legislation that would have established a government-run universal health care system.

Senate Bill 840 by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, would have set up a single-payer system in which the state would assume the role that private insurance companies now play.

In his veto message, the governor said he could not support "a bill that places an annual shortfall of over $40 billion to our state's economy."

... Jerry Flanagan, health policy director for Consumer Watchdog, which represents attorneys, called the governor's veto "hypocritical."

"This veto will mean that health insurers who have given more than $1 million to the governor will continue to rescind innocent patients when they fall and need coverage the most, forcing consumers into court to challenge unfair policy cancellations," Flannigan said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1278412.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 11:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. Universal health care and Harvey Milk Day vetoed in one day
Fuck this POS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. ^ What he said.
Anybody have a copy of the recall petition?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. I think the Prison Guards Union is registering the petitions
I'm ready to sign it. That liar deserves a TOTAL RECALL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
4. Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Coleman!
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 12:31 AM by junofeb
:rofl:


Not really, I voted Bustamente. Oh the lost opportunities of that election. May Californians do it again and get rid of that stupid Austrian.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Don't blame me, I voted for Whatshisname!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Ah, ya gotta laugh about that election
The only other option is :banghead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #4
11. he's termed out. But dems should have tried harder to remove him so he wouldn't have
a ''successful'' two terms as governor to run for senate on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:33 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. He has 2 years left in his term...unless we recall him for terminating healthcare bills!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:33 AM
Response to Reply #11
22. The state party pretty much conceded a second term to him without a fight. Why?
Ahnold wasn't THAT popular two years ago. What did they think they had to lose by making a real effort to get him out?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. I wrote letters to party leaders about it and even asked a state legislator face to face
He said he did everything in his power to get Angelides elected.

The problem is, heavyweights in the party like Gore and Bill Clinton didn't--though they did campaign for a proposition on the ballot.

The bigger question was why didn't they find someone with more star power to run for office? Angelides was an unknown compared to Arnold, which made it easy for the media to marginalize and even ignore him. Arnold was getting front page coverage in the LA Times while Angelides was getting the kind of coverage usually reserved for third parties with seven members.

The bottom line is Arnold is big business's boy. They got him in office and they wanted to make sure they got their money's worth to the max out of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #11
26. I agree
I was very frustrated by CA politics when I lived there. Thank Gods Doolittle is finally gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 12:58 AM
Response to Original message
6. Time for "Total Recall, The Sequel"
Send the Groper back to Hollywood.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:12 AM
Response to Original message
8. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:05 AM
Response to Reply #8
18. How about atrophied steroid dick?
Or does that seem sexist to you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 AM
Response to Reply #8
20. It's easier to spell, but maybe not factual
His ass isn't what it used to be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:16 AM
Response to Original message
9. He should be forced
to watch the P.O.V. that was on tonight.
How the uninsured die prematurely because their illness is too advanced by the time anyone will help them, how people lose their insurance when they get sick, how medical care is rationed, or rather denied, how people lose their homes to medical bills, how families are torn apart by medical bills and collection companies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Yes I saw it as well....
Truly very sad that many expensive problems can be avoided with simple interventions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 AM
Response to Reply #9
19. Everyone should watch this.
We, who are uninsured, are not worthy - that's what it all boils down to. I am not worthy of living if I cannot keep myself healthy. Maybe this is the simplistic way of looking at it, but it sure seems this way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. A long time ago
our health care system was modeled as a punitive system, unless you can pay your way out. The insurance companies guided the philosophy. Malcolm Gladwell wrote an essay about this: www.malcolmgladwell.com
the title is Moral Hazard

other countries obviously think in different terms - sorta like human beings
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. Very good article... thank you for the link... nt
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
29. yes, lumpectomy $80,000.00
just to remove a tumor from a breast, vs breast implants $8000.00 Thankfully, those 'abortion clinics' (woman's health clinic) can help out if you cannot afford to save your own life. Strong Medicine on Lifetime Network showed what some Christians insist on calling 'abortion clinics'-I wish thay would be corrected on that-every time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Good point
those idiots picket and try to close down clinics that screen for std's and cancer in women who cannot afford other sources.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:22 AM
Response to Original message
12. how does maria whose ffamily legacy is generousity stay married to this
guy - time to recall him - he does not care about people
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. Every Family Has Black Sheep
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:45 AM
Response to Original message
15. Hey, Ahnold--you'd get the premiums now wasted on private insurance n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:46 AM
Response to Original message
16. Ahh-nold is not looking at the big picture. California's losses are far greater without health care
than with it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:46 AM
Response to Original message
17. For people who are afraid of political consequences for supporting single payer--
--note that this is the SECOND time that the CA legislature has passed it. Negative consequences for legislators supporting it the first time = ZERO!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:32 AM
Response to Original message
21. I hope Maria kicked his ass for this when he came home.
This was a direct insult to Ted. Probably intended as such.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:43 AM
Response to Original message
23. He keeps saying it will cost too much money, yet favors a plan along
the lines of Massachusetts health care giveaway to the for profit health care industry that has already proven to be far more costly than Sheila Kuehl's single payer bill would ever be. But of course the health care bill he favors is written by the insurance industry lobbyists who have supported his governorship. It's time to recall this incompetent, corporate tool.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #23
34. It is not that it costs money it is that not enough profits go to his insurance industry buddies
Just as with the bush admin. they don't care about wasting money when it goes to haliburton, etc but heaven forbid one penny might get wasted on giving insurance to poor families kids.

Welfare is only bad when it helps those who truly need it in their book. Republicans like these live in a bizzaro world type reality. It makes my head ache trying to wrap my mind around this sort of thinking and the blatent horrendous lies they tell to justify such actions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:35 AM
Response to Original message
25. Meanwhile, Arnie has the taxpayer subsidize his monthly steroids prescriptions
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
27. This fear of Socialized Health Care is disgusting...
If it truly did not work, then I would not say that, but it fucking works! Medicade/Medicare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:17 PM
Response to Original message
30. If you get a chronic head-ache, you'd better hope...

IT'S NOT A TUMAH!



God, I hate Der GropenFuhrer.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
32. to be expected...
But the fight will go on!

http://onecarenow.org/

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:38 PM
Response to Original message
35. Any chance that a revote would give them a majority to override the veto?
This is vile. Just completely utterly vile. I wish at least one state could accomplish this since nationally we can't even get enough Pro-Human people into office to even bring up a vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 12:36 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC