Davis, Fighting Recall, Is Ready to Stump Against "Right Wing"

[kskiska]

LOS ANGELES, July 25 — Gov. Gray Davis of California has 74 days to defeat the movement to recall him or face being only the second governor in American history to be removed from office by referendum. His strategy for survival, aides say, is to make the vote about anything but Gray Davis.

The governor's advisers say they intend to shift the focus away from Mr. Davis's personality and his record to what they characterize as the "right wing" agenda of the recall proponents and the high cost of the election at a time when the state faces a $38 billion deficit.

His aides say they will use television advertising, telephone banks and mass mailings supported by liberal interest groups and unions to send a message that the state cannot afford the risk of overturning an election and putting the state in the hands of a novice politician with views out of step with those of most Californians. The national Democratic Party has pledged its full support to defeating the recall.

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And instead of using Mr. Davis as the principal carrier of the antirecall message, his aides say they intend to bring in prominent surrogates. The cast includes former President Bill Clinton — who lavished attention on California while in office — and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the recall effort and energize Democratic voters.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/26/national/26DAVI.html?hp

[Julien Sorel]

1. A question for Californians:

The governor's advisers say they intend to shift the focus away from Mr. Davis's personality and his record to what they characterize as the "right wing" agenda of the recall proponents and the high cost of the election at a time when the state faces a $38 billion deficit.

When I lived in California, Davis was the Controller, if I remember correctly. I liked him, and I think he was highly regarded. What exactly is the problem with his 'personality?'

[ChillEB]

4. He's just not Mr. Happy...

People get down on him for being a bit of a 'cold-fish'. Doesn't smile much, has monotone delivery when doing public speaking. He's your basic serious mofo. I guess some would prefer someone with some charisma, like AH-nuld ... even if said joker had NO FRIGGIN CLUE about running a state. I can already hear the state's repukes:

"Oh, YEAH? Well, he may be dumb as a post, but at least OUR governor can KICK SOME ASS! No terra-ists are gonna fuck with OUR state, cuz the Gubnah is the freakin TERMINATOR, DUDE! Fuck Yeah!"

Woe is us if this assclown gets elected. God save us. Please...

[Piperay]

8. He was more personable when he was

controller but since he become Governor he has disappeared from sight. Davis should get out there and maybe people would find him likable again. :shrug: Jerry Brown and Davis made a good likable team when they were both in (at least during Brown's first term before he got slapped with the medfly and Governor Moonbeam titles :crazy: ).

[Mountainman]

13. The radio talk shows have a lot to do with his image

The rethugs have been trying to gain control here and the can't do it by winning elections. The only thing they can do is play dirty. The also tried to recall a county supervisor in Santa Barbara county because she was for protecting the coast line from development.
The rethugs blamed Davis for the energy crisis when it was their own friends that caused it. Those who only get their views from talk radio have been persuaded that there is something wrong with Davis.
If you can stand it go to freeperville and read what the our of state freepers say about Davis. The have no first hand experience with him yet they act like they know what they are talking about. All they are doing is repeating the lies the rethugs spread on talk radio. It is the same with many people here.

[twilight]

16. don't underestimate Davis

Davis is a shrewd and powerful politician. Do not underestimate this man. I have every belief that he will hold on to his job and end up embarrassing and demoralizing the pukes even worse than they are already doing with this bogus crap.

He won reelection ... that is the bottom line. I intend to vote for not recalling him even though I was never an enthusiastic supporter of his (but yes, I voted for him and yes, he was an excellent Comptroller!).

:kick:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. Davis is quiet and mostly reserved..not a media whore

they also want to keep the attention away from his ability to raise funds since he has effectively BEAT Repubs at their games.

[WillyT]

2. If He Can Do It Effectively, This Just Might Have Major Implications !!!

I'm thinkin that there's more than a few repukes who are tired of being run over by the religious right in their own party. They are getting what they deserve in many ways, dancin with the devil that can bring you to power after 40 years in the 'outs' is Faustian, and payin back the Devil is a major bitch.

Remember Sen. Charles Grassley breaking down and crying after Jim Jeffords switched to Independent, and caucused with the Dems???

Now Grassley ain't no rightwing christian zealot, but he finally got his coveted chairmanship after oh so many years of waiting in the wilderness. And then it was gone, because of a fellow repuke. (One that I am eternally grateful to).

And remember the disdain that the Repub Senators (for the most part) had when they were forced to actually have to preside over an impeachment in their own chamber that they didn't want. And have to sit as jury for the little pissants in the House if front of a newly selfdesigned decked out Chief Justice (cool new impeachment racing stripes on his robe) knowing all the while that as the House Manager primped and preened they weren't REALLY gonna impeach the president over this crap.

And remeber the Repuke convention in San Diego, where some of the more reasonable repukes were trying to get certain language about abortion, among other things. out of their convention plank. And they lost the vote of the delegates, and Pete Wilson, and Christy Todd Whitman and Bill Weld were all under the stadium steps of the convention tryin to tell the network press that they had hoped to prevail but were unsuccessful, and as they were trying to put the best face on their party, a fellow young republican got near the microphone and stars screaming 'baby killers, baby killers'. Which left the three moderate repukes stunned and speechless. Although Gov. Wilson who could barelytalk because of laryngitis told the zealot dude, "Young man, you could really screw up your voice that way."

For me, that was the first sigh of real trouble ahead. It told me that the days of agreeing to disagree were coming to a close. The Reublicans, THE OLD REPUBLICANS, the one you could have a beer with while you argued over politics, then shake hands, and could still respect ecah other, were over.

I hope Davis takes it to 'em!!!

Sorry for the ramble, wierd week, and it's hard to key after a few brewskis.

BOTTOM LINE - We have to cut the legs from under these hypocritical Elmer Gantry frauds. I'm glad this is one Davis'k strategies. I hope that all Dems, and a few Repubs, will join in this effort.

Whew....

Did I make any sense,LOL???

:shrug:

[Boom_cha]

3. yeah, you made perfect sense

quite eloquently as a matter a fact

you deserve another brewski :toast:

[kskiska]

5. Great rant, WillyT

I remember Grassley's agony, too, over that chairmanship. I had to laugh.

[Democat]

6. Good to see "right wing" in the media

Maybe Davis will expose the right wing of the Republican Party. The media avoids calling them what they are, but they can't fully avoid reporting on what Davis is going to say.

[JackSwift]

7. I thought he was the right wing

He's in deep undeniable doo doo. It causes me great pain to think I am going to vote no on the recall and write in Bustamante for the replacement. But I can't look anyone in the eye and ask them to vote for Davis. He is such a selfish bastard.

[fizzana]

23. I don't like Davis one little bit

He's totally in the pockets of the prison guard's union. He has spent fortunes on building new prisons and making the prison guards one of the highest paid unions in Ca. In addition, he almost never grants any parole recommendations in case the union gets pissed off.

California would be better off without him but not in this way. I've never voted for him before but I'll hold my nose on this one and vote against the recall.

[twilight]

24. only two possiblities on the recall ballot

From my understanding the ballot will be like this:

Question #1: Should Gray Davis be recalled? Yes or No

Question #2: If you think Gray Davis should be recalled, who do you think should be the replacement? Write name in _____________.

Apparently you must say you think he should be recalled, then you write in Bustamante (does Bustamante want to be written in?).

I will vote against the recall myself, even though I am no big fan of Davis. It is not right. He won 'fair and square' and the problems are not unique to the State of California right now!

:kick:

[Jolene]

9. Davis needs to take a page

from the republican playbook and demand the republicans who would challenge him come up with a working solution to California's budget woes--that is, one that does not rely heavily on destroying the 'general welfare' our forefathers thought we should tend to.

[snippy]

10. Part of the campaign should focus on Bush.

Republicans condemn Davis for the state budget deficit while freedom kissing Bush"s rectum for thr federal budget deficit.

Davis should use Bush's "trifecta" Bushshit about why there is a deficit and add the energy crisis which resulted from Bush refusing to allow FERC to enforce the law against Enron and others. FERC still is trying to screw California. The energy crisis also was in part the result of a law passed by a republican controlled legislature and signed by a republican governor who still claims it as one of his greatest accomplishments.

[robbedvoter]

11. I hope he brings up Dick's visit in 2001 re: Enron and W's

speech re: caps on energy prices - both of them went to great length to say screw you to California

[realFedUp]

12. Another "pre-emptive strike" by Republicans

hehehe. Invasion of a state office without a plan.

[tlb]

14. Pity nobody can find a reason people should vote FOR Davis

as opposed to voting AGAINST whoever. I don't believe the Ca party is that lacking in leadership, but it is certainly getting harder to keep that thought.

[Jolene]

15. I can think of some very good reasons

1) The GOP shouldn't be seeking to overturn the will of the people. We got a hefty dose of that in 2000. We didn't like it then, and we don't like it now. Perhaps the GOP should stop hiding what they really are, and relocate to a country which doesn't believe in open democracy; and

2) If the republicans get the governorship in California, elections can never be trusted to be free and open there, again. They own the software that runs the machines, and they've proven to be anything but trustworthy. IMO, now that the republicans have forced their brand of 'democracy' on Jeb Bush's Florida, in their desperation, they need another large state. This isn't about recalling Gray Davis, as much as it is about republicans wanting to screw people at the polls again, IMO.

BTW...here's another one for you: We've seen how 'good' big government, borrow-and-spend republicans are when it comes to the economy. Any democrat on his worst day couldn't do the damage to California that the republicans have done to this nation on any one of Bush's 'good' days.

Republicans take surpluses and turn them into deficits. I don't think even Gray Davis can 'boast' of that.

[WillyT]

17. Right On Jolene, Exactly !!!

This is a way for the rightwing fanatics to gain control over the most populist state in the union, right before the 2004 presidential election.

After all, they're gonna need a bit of time to get their voter 'purge' list together for submission, dontcha know???

:shrug:

[demgrrrll]

18. Can Bush win without California? Exactly how important California in

the great cosmic scheme of things for Bushie. There is a reason that the pubbies are going at this hammer and tongs. The first reason is to put a lid on CheeKnee and other energy scandals that might bubble up.
But a second reason might be that they can control election outcomes better with a Pub Gov and staff. Davis won't help Bush that's for damn sure. Something to think about.

[cayanne]

26. Don't forget the Coastas Commission

With a Repug governor the oil men (Bush Cheney, etc) would be in a better position to make it possible to drill off the California coast. With the voting fraud, they could control all.

[Zorro]

19. Prepare to see Issa's criminal record exposed

along with Davis describing how the Bush administration colluded with Enron and the likes to manufacture the power crisis, which contributed to the current budget situation.

The Republicans are going to be sorry they ever started this recall process, IMHO.

[twilight]

20. I agree - check this out ...

I saved this information - was posted on the GD forum a few weeks ago re: ISSA the crook!

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Here are some excerpts regarding Issa.

Note the pattern: 18 years old. He and his brother steal a Masarati and are arrested.

27 years old. "His brother" Steals Darrel's car and gets cash for it.
Darrell collects on the insurance. Both are arrested.

29 years old. Darrell calls a note (without telling the borrower) and gets awarded copyright benefits to 'car alarms'.... And is awarded the business.

The copyrighted items are removed from the business.

Darrell increases the insurance coverage -- The Business is TORCHED(minus computers necessary to carry on), Darrell tries to collect on the insurance. The insurance refused to pay.

Darrell aims a loaded gun at office personnel.

When a person is CAUGHT this many times. What are they doing the times they aren't caught.

June 25, 2000

The second-term San Diego area congressman has pumped $1 million into the campaign to recall Davis and has declared he will
run for governor should the recall qualify for the ballot this year. Issa's previous political campaigns have been roiled by allegations that twice -- once while a student in his hometown of Cleveland and once while a soldier in Pennsylvania -- he also was involved in car thefts.

In the San Jose case, Issa, who at the time was a 27-year-old U.S. Army officer, and William Issa, 29, were arrested by San Jose police on a felony auto-theft charge in February 1980.

They were accused of a scheme in which Issa's brother allegedly sold Issa's
cherry-red Mercedes 240 to Smythe European Motors in San Jose for $13,000 cash and three $1,000 traveler's checks. Within hours, Issa reported the car stolen from a lot at the Monterey airport, near his Army post at Fort Ord. Issa and his brother pleaded not guilty. A judge ordered them to stand trial on felony charges, saying he had a "strong suspicion" that the men had committed the crime, according to the records.

CASE DISMISSED

But in August 1980, a prosecutor dismissed the case for lack of evidence. The men later were charged with misdemeanors, but that case was not pursued, said retired police Detective Richard Christiansen, lead investigator in the case.

Issa, 49, became a multimillionaire manufacturer of electronic auto alarms, including the popular "Viper" anti-theft device. "When people ask me why I got into the car alarm business, I tell them the truth," he said in a statement to The Chronicle. "It was because my brother was a car thief.

THEN FROM MAY 16, 2003

The gun incident <????> happened not long after Issa, in 1982, seized control of the company that launched his success in the hard-nosed car-alarm business by taking advantage of an Ohio law allowing a creditor to win judgment against a debtor without the debtor's presence or knowledge. Issa had loaned $60,000 to the owner of a company with valuable car-alarm technology, and the company's stock was put up as collateral. Issa had had the same sort of loan repaid a year earlier and agreed to give company founder Joseph Adkins, who, like many start-up entrepreneurs, had cash-flow issues, more time to repay the new loan.

Saying later that he had just learned the company was in worse straits than he had realized, Issa instead went to court and won a judgment giving him the company's stock, then phoned a stunned Adkins and told him his erstwhile company had a new boss. But there were still business problems. Seven months later, not long after insurance coverage had been increased and a key computer removed, fire swept through Issa's Cleveland-area manufacturing plant.

Arson was suspected, but no charges were filed. Still, the insurance
company wouldn't pay, and Issa sued, ending up with a lesser out-of-court settlement.

The brushes with the law - which began with an arrest at 18 for allegedly stealing a Maserati with his brother (charges were dropped) - seemed to be in his rearview mirror.

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/26/news-bradley.php

Gun Incident: Issa brandished a handgun at an employee during an office confrontation. "Shots were never fired, I don't recall having a gun," Issa said.

:dem:

Just another BIG LIAR and BIG CROOK!

:nuke: just what California doesn't need!!!

[pfitz59]

22. Watch Issa on TV!

Another reptillian Republican. Rambles on about running government as a "business"! He just wants to pick at the bones of the California economy. Should call him Darrel "The Vulture" Issa!

[ichiro99]

25. The Davis personality 'problem' ...

sounds a little like Gore's 'credibility' -- say it loud, say it often. Only non-patriots dare question anyway. Makes no sense, just an over-used soundbite point, simple enough for even the most homebound Straussian groundtroop to get a handle on. Ends justify the silliest of argument stoppers, in order that Centurian Culture be fed its full share -- and more.

"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
-- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall

[hippiechick]

27. Hmm....

Is it possible that the GOP is doing this to run the CA Dem coffers dry, and the DNC's as well, so that they will have less energy, money and voter goodwill to fight Chimpy with in 2004 ?

Part of a plan to take CA with or without Diebold's help ??


:hippie: