Ex-CIA Exec Facing Trial Says He'll Expose Agents, Programs

[laststeamtrain]

Source: news8.net

Ex-CIA Exec Facing Trial Says He'll Expose Agents, Programs

A former top CIA official accused of corruption and fraud is threatening to expose the identities of numerous agents and programs as part of his defense, prosecutors said.

In a court filing, prosecutors allege that former CIA executive director Kyle "Dusty" Foggo is trying to gum up the works of his trial, scheduled for November, by delving into classified information that is irrelevant to his case. Foggo is charged with 28 counts of wire and mail fraud, unlawful money transactions and making false statements.

Prosecutors say Foggo has threatened "to expose the cover of virtually every CIA employee with whom he interacted and to divulge to the world some of our country's most sensitive programs - even though this information has absolutely nothing to do with the charges he faces."

Prosecutors also allege his lawyers are seeking to introduce classified evidence to "portray Foggo as a hero engaged in actions necessary to protect the public from terrorist acts" to gain sympathy from jurors.

Read more: http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0908/552040.html

[billyoc]

1. Wartime treason.

Shoot him.

[NM Independent]

3. Agreed

[Crowman1979]

13. Nah, too suspicious.

They're will probably be an accidental overdose sometime soon.

[Name removed]

16. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Solly Mack]

2. We'll be reading his obit soon

[pleah]

4. Exactly!

He'll be one of those multiple gunshot suicides.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

5. "Dusty" Foggo private eye? n/t

[pattmarty]

6. Send the motherfucker to Gitmo!!!!

[crickets]

7. Oh, Dusty.

Attempted extortion involving the CIA is a strategy guaranteed to lose unless you're one of the tippity top dogs in Washington, and even then it's a gamble. Turning on your former fellow agents looks looks like... wait for it... BETRAYAL. It's not just slimy on a personal level: we have laws about that kind of thing. Plus, adding another charge or two on top of all the others right before your trial starts is not smart.

You are toast, Foggo.

[Ian David]

8. Maybe now we'll finally learn the truth about Chuck Barris.

[trudyco]

9. What does it mean in Rovarian world? Is he trying to suppress

"classified" information that could be damaging to shrub's administration? In other words, he doesn't really plan on exposing the CIA, just wants to get a draconian reaction so that all things "classified" can't be used in his trial????

This administration has made me very paranoid. It seems like everything is not what it seems.

[chusmeria]

10. This is what exceptionalism creates. n/t

[tom_paine]

11. Thi could be what it appears to be on it's face, a bullshit delaying tactic.

Remember, Scooter Libby tried this trick, too.

OTOH, BushKremlinology is one of the fastest growing sociological subcategories around. Once the Old USA was ended on 12/12/2000 and our nation has moved much mouch much MUCH closer to being exactly like the Old Soviet Union, especially if one does not factor material wealth into the equation, BushKremlinology became the dominant, indeed the ONLY way to understand what was going on in a tightly organized yet sometimes competing set of neofacsist-type cabals that undoubtedly makes up the Bush Tyranny.

Have said that, my inutition about the BushKremlinology at work is that Foggo is delivering a public warning to BushCheney and notice that he is willing to risk beging suicided or accidented by them to avoid jail, so they'd better not abandon him.

It sounds like he was making a veiled threat regarding some of the many BushCheney felonies he has driect knowledge of and could spill. It think it is jut as likely THAT is what Foggo means with this statement that the matter is straightforward and simply a "Scooter Libby do-over".

Foggo was making it clear BushCheney better not abandon him, because he knows wher the bodeis are buried.

Given Foogo's high profile currently, a prison-yard execution is probably out of the quetsion or guard-assisted execution, too. Bad PR. Looks suspicious, too suspicious. At this point, even a suiciding looks suspicious now that Foggo is in the spotlight. I can't think the Bushies are worried about being found out I just think they are being smart by staying away from doing the handful of things (and it is a very tiny handful that might endanger their control of the tyranny they have made of Amerika) that MIGHT, even though they probably won't, wake large numbers of the public up.

In either case, I think Foggo has signaled that BushCheney better not forget about him because, if he lives, he could make a great deal of trouble for them by exposing even just some of their many felonious activities as part of his defense.

And I also think BushCheney is going to do what's right (for them) and make the deal. Soon, an emissary to the Bushie Court will make a visit to Foggo's prison and negotiate the deal.

Suddenly, Foggo will very likely and mysteriously abandon this idea. It will fall down the momory hole, and no one will even remember.

Suddenly, Foggo will be a good boy and utterly discreet in his defense. Then he will probably be convicted. Then he will be pardoned or commuted.

We'll see how things turn out. No one can accurately guess the details of the future, only trends, and the trend here is painfully obvious.

[leveymg]

14. Or, Foggo may be threatening to expose a larger scandal .

Don't forget that Foggo was involved in the DC Madam honeytrap (political blackmail) along with the Cunningham-MZM false Iraq intel and domestic spying affairs. Foggo and Porter also intersect with the still unfolding Abramoff case and the Carol Lam firing.

Foggo, no doubt, has an insiders view of all these domestic political intelligence scandals. This may be what he's threatening to make public.

[redqueen]

15. That's the first thing I thought...

that he's got dirt and is using it as leverage.

The fact that he's got this far with it without them either suiciding him or placating him somehow is interesting.

[tom_paine]

17. That's what I was saying. And helluva good point about the DC Madam.

We'll never know 100% if it's true but it certainly fits the pattern and MO of Bushie Spooks, right up to where she was rapidly and conveniently was suicided before she could testify.

Of course, she was almost crtainly (90% probability) an intel plot run by the Bushies against the Dems (and probably against a few of their own to keep them in line if they had a tendency to stray).

Not only is it feasible and plausible, the Bushies have considered it and discussed it before, which is why this speculation rates 90% probability, IMHO.

Cue: The Watergate Tapes. I have always said that it is no coincidience that, somehow, literally EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE NEFARIOUS DREAMS AND AIMS OF THE WATERGATE CONSPIRATORS IS NOW REALITY.

The Watergate Tapes or perhaps some other aspect of the investigation (it's been a long time and I don't remember the specifics - Google it if you wish to fill in the blanks) unearthed a memo or notes of a converstaion with Hunt and Lidday and I think Haldemann in which it was quite lengthily and seriously discussed using "Bushie Whores" to lull information out of Democrats to help neutralize the Democratic Party (need I mention that, 35 years later, in terms of setting National Policy, the Democratic Party HAS been neutralized, even after we are supposedly in the majority in both houses).

So, Liddy, Hunt and Haldemann, who are to the Bushies as Paul Castellano was to John Gotti, first concocted the scheme.

Getting busted over Watergate delayed their plans but as we now know, they never abandoned their grand dreams of the piles of Public Treasury Loot and the high of being able to lie and do anything shamelessly...of imposing Inverted Totalitarianism and unchecked, unopposable Bushie Power on the American Republic.

Like Julius Caesar, they had to figure our how to become Kings and rule like Kings and lie shamelessly like Kings without actually appearing to be Kings (or autarchs or oligarchs or kleptocrats or any of the other applicable apellations).

Yes...heckuva good point about the DC Madam. Got all the earmarks, doesn't it?

But you know what all those sneering Coincidence Theorists' say. Stuff like that doesn't happen here and we are just crazy tinfoilers.

:rofl:

Doesn't being one-eyed in the Kingdom of the Blind suck?

Anyway thanks for the post and for putting it together about the DC Madam.

All the earmarks...

Considering who and what was incolved,it would indeed be a coincidence if there WASN'T foul play involved by sombody. Had that foul play been anything other than state-sanction, and had Palfrey's suiciding not been so beneficial to so many, likely of both parties as discussed above, the hunt for the murderers would be on as we speak...

[RainDog]

12. he's the guy charged with the republican from CA

of accepting bribes and using his position to steer jobs to that contractor.

He's a piece of work, but it seems like republicans are all about endangering our national security these days, what with Plame and this and all the war lies.

[fascisthunter]

18. There's Your Republican ready to commit Treason

to save his own ass.... just like the Bush Administration. Bunch of fascist traitors...

[IndianaGreen]

19. If Cheney and Scooter can do it, so can Foggo

Personally, I would rather see the CIA disbanded altogether, and some of its operational personnel tried for crimes against humanity.

[Uben]

20. Threatening to expose secrests and agents he was privvy to.....

....is just that...a threat. If he does it....well then.....there are those renditions where you never return. He probably knows all too well about their existence!

I really don't give a shit what happens to him.

[Uben]

21. self-delete

.deleted

[Zhade]

22. "28 counts of wire and mail fraud, unlawful money transactions and making false statements"

Oh, you mean standard CIA daily business?

[cascadiance]

23. Here's TPM's writeup on this... This is an attempt at getting a dismissal using "graymail" defense.

Graymail was also tried by Scooter's defense but to no avail. Had to go the "pardon" route instead there. This is typical for criminal cases. With civil cases, getting cases dismissed has been easy with the State Secret Privilege with a lot of "compliant" judges like Judge Walton. There are different laws covering criminal cases, which don't really allow them to pull "State Secrets" privilege in those. Just more attempts at trying to cover it up.

Though we think he's going to get the CIA to try and "silence" him, a lot of the high level insiders that are Bush bots understand he's doing this trying to get away from going to trial, which helps them keep their dirty secrets too.

I still wonder if he's connected to people in the CIA (since he's worked with money launderers like Brent Wilkes and Thomas Kontogiannis), that might be part of a rumored operation of being the REAL culprit in counterfeiting our own money instead of the lynchpin North Koreans that lead to us getting newer money to fight the "super dollar". There are a number of publications that have done research on this that have felt this was a strong possibility after discounting that North Korea is really capable of generating the quality of counterfeits on the market. They also speculate that this money was being used to fund black ops, instead of letting someone get in trouble with operations like Iran/Contra got Ollie North in trouble.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/foggo_threatens_to_expose_cia.php

Foggo Threatens To Expose CIA Secrets As Part of Own Criminal Case
By Kate Klonick - September 10, 2008, 2:40PM



In court documents filed late last week, prosecutors in the trial of former executive director of the CIA Dusty Foggo allege that the defendant is attempting to "twist a straightforward case into a referendum on the global war on terror" by taking the spotlight off his charges of corruption and fraud.

In going down this irrelevant path, the government argues, Foggo will expose dozens of confidential programs and people still active in the CIA.

From the government's motion:

Foggo's desire portray himself to the public as a patriotic hero stands in stark contrast to his Section 5 Notice, in which he expresses (albeit in a sealed filing) a desire to expose the cover of virtually every CIA employee with whom he interacted and to divulge to the world some of our country's most sensitive programs - even though this information has absolutely nothing to do with the charges he faces.

Foggo's most recent move -- the process of holding the court ransom with threats to expose classified information -- is common in national security cases and is known as "graymail" and is something the prosecution has already been on the look out for. The prosecution has requested an in chambers examination of the material to be submitted by Foggo and determine its admissibility.

...

[Name removed]

24. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. Dead man walking.....