British officers knew on eve of war that Iraq had no WMDs

[DoYouEverWonder]

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=136082004

Wed 4 Feb 2004

Key points
• UK intelligence learned just before war that Iraq had not assembled chemical weapons
• Mossad "knew 45-minute claim was an old wives’ tale" - but did not tell UK or US
• US Secretary of State "does not know" if he would have recommended invasion if he had been told Iraq had no WMDs
• Former civil service chief to lead investigation into whether British intelligence on Iraq was accurate
• Lib Dems boycott inquiry because of tight terms of reference

Key quote "Intelligence indicating that chemical weapons remained disassembled and that Saddam had not yet ordered their assembly was highlighted."


BU$H & TONY KNEW and they gave the orders to invade anyway. BUSH & TONY LIED, people died. These two need to be removed from power and put in jail for their crimes against humanity as soon as possible. Before they kill again.

[Alpharetta]

1. Did the british troops wear full chem gear?

sweating out the air raid sirens in the full chem gear for no reason at all?

[Loonman]

2. Damn

Blair's hands are up to his elbows in blood, and Bush much more so.


I'm pretty sure that Bush will get somewhat of a pass in the US, but if the Brits let this slide..........

[madrchsod]

5. blair could face

war crime charges and as usual little george will get away with the lies to the american people and the thousands of dead in iraq. like everything else in his life someone will clean up after him.

[Zero Gravitas]

3. War was not about WMDs

It was about WMDRPAs and about uhhh... Democracy for the Iraqi People! (so long as they don't vote themselves an Islamic Republic) :eyes:

[ignatius]

14. That's right, it was about Operation Iraqi Liberty. OIL!!!

Traitors..so many dead..I can not shake the picture of the Iraqi man holding his young daughter in his arms..his head thrown back..crying to the heavens..she in a purple shawl..dead..her feet blown away

Lives ruined for a cabal of evil and greedy men..May they all rot in a fiery hell for all eternity.

[leesa]

15. Or expect to own any of their own businesses or resources...

[madrchsod]

4. everyone in the world who had a brain

and watched and listened knew this war was bullshit. there were news reports that this wmd is all bullshit,there were inspectors ,past and present told all those who would listen it was wrong. but alot of our democrats went along with bush. this whole sad tale of death and destruction is a stain on our flag. it was put there by all those who backed bush and never questioned the lies

[trapper914]

6. And Israel let it happen

They knew the "45 Minute" claim was false, but said nothing.

They knew 9/11 was going to happen, but said nothing.

We are nothing but pawns in Israel's chess game with the Arabs.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Makes you wonder how much more Mossad knows

and how much of what has happened was done by them?

Sharon, Perle and Wolfowitz are the brains of the whole operation, this whole thing is their doing.

[JohnyCanuck]

8. Another piece of the jigsaw puzzle

The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html


It would be hard to believe the Mossad didn't know about this ad hoc intelligence agency passing on bogus info to the OSP. Whether or not they tried very hard to draw attention to the fact that it was bogus of course is another question, and even if they did, who were they going to tell it to. The CIA pretty well knew the score already. When it comes to intelligence agencies the only thing of which I am certain is that nothing they say or do can be taken at face value and that includes the CIA, MI6, Mossad, KGB or whoever.


An Israeli daily, Ha'aretz, has reported that Israel is seriously considering restarting a strategically important oil pipeline that once transferred oil from the Iraqi city of Mosul to Israel's northern port of Haifa. Given the Israeli claim of a positive US approach to the plan, the Israeli project provides grounds for a theory that the ongoing war against Iraq is in part a joint US, British and Israeli design for reshaping the Middle East to serve their particular interests, including their oil requirements.

According to the daily, Israeli National Infrastructure Minister Yosef Paritzky considers the pipeline project as economically justifiable as it would reduce the country's cost of oil imports. This is currently very high, as Israel imports oil from Russia. There would also be a strategic justification for the project, as importing oil from an oil supplier in Israel's close proximity would increase its fuel security and would address its major handicap, that is, its total dependence on imported fuel from far-away suppliers. While living in the oil-rich Middle East, the Israelis cannot count on regional oil exporters because of the existing Arab-Israeli conflict. Prior to the 1979 Iranian revolution, Iran, which was on friendly terms with Israel, provided its oil requirements. That arrangement ended in 1979 when the new Iranian revolutionary regime cut ties with Israel.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ED04Ak01.html

I can see how the Israelis would be thinking. If the US is willing to do the dirty work and get rid of Saddam for us and at the same time open up the possibility of having Iraqi oil flowing into Israel again, why should we rock the Dubya boat.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. According to the Likudniks Oil = Security

but it's not US security that they care about.

Funny thing about that pipeline, isn't Syria still in the way of Israel and their oil that god put under Iraq?

[kskiska]

9. Junior never, ever dreamed they'd be called on their WMD claim

They figured all that would get lost in the smoke of war, and no one would even remember their claim. As I remember it, the WMD issue arose in Britain, then the cry was taken up by Americans who cared. The others were half asleep anyway, and some still are.

[maggrwaggr]

11. We need a pre-emptive impeachment and trial

Bush has proven to be an agressor to his neighbors.

He's killed thousands of people.

He's acted in blatant defiance of UN resolutions.

We need to remove him from power, to make sure he doesn't do this again.

[Malva Zebrina]

12. Right

and a whole lot of people knew it and said it loudly on the streets all over the world. The American media practially ignored it. Bush just controlled the media , probably by threat and by force or intimidation or by perhaps a total appeal to monetary rewards,so that these objections were not publicized or parsed. This is a crime that should never ever be allowed to happen again in this country where freedom of speech has been almost a holy concept. We need to take back the honest journalism and the pride that came from honest journalism in the past. What we have now are so called journalists who are out to make their fortune and have little regard for truth. How come?

Why have we been subjected to the whims of these wannabee rich journalists seeking to make thier fortune on cheap shallow reporting? Why do we even believe or listen to or read them when we know they have been bought by those who offer them riches and fame and are really cheap and tawdry whores of this administration?

[fshrink]

13. "If it isn't accurate, fine!" Powell, public statement.

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