Bush hits Russia on 'bullying and intimidation'

[underpants]

Source: AP/Yahoo

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Friday accused Russia of "bullying and intimidation" against Georgia, saying that the people in the former Soviet republic chose freedom and "we will not cast them aside."

Bush, preparing to travel to his Texas ranch, said in a statement on the White House grounds that he'll keep in close touch with both Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice amid the continuing showdown between Moscow and Tibilisi over two separatist provinces in Georgia.

"Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century," Bush said.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080815/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=AnqfbmY1YxMkxKPGrmkqqFSyFz4D

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. He said THAT?

:rofl:

[underpants]

7. Jon Stewart last night "Do you people have NO long term memory?!?!?"

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

[global1]

2. Do As I Say - Not As I Do........

what a hypocrite and a criminal.

[ixion]

3. "we will not cast them aside...if you need me, I'll be on vacation"

spoken like the true ignorant drunken frat boy bully that he is.

[MetaTrope]

4. OW! And Bush launches a stinging sissy-slap to Russia's kneecap!

[sandyj999]

5. Well he knows all about that doesn't he?

"Bring It On'' comes to mind.

[maddezmom]

6. He's one to talk

:eyes:

[Joanne98]

8. Unbelievable.

[Virginia Dare]

9. Bullying and intimidation,..that's pretty much sum total of Bush foreign policy..

and I thought he was postponing his vacay in Crawford to deal with the Georgia crisis? Did Cheney and McCain boot him out of town? Is McCain pulling a Haig on him?

[underpants]

10. and.. so..uh ...he tries to bully and intimidate

:eyes:

and we all know (we warned them of exactly this kind of situation) he has NOTHING backing it up... well aside from air strikes into civilian populated areas and THAT always works out well

:sarcasm:

[Virginia Dare]

31. I'm sure the Russians will welcome us with flowers in the streets..

:eyes: :nuke:

[adamuu]

11. The Cold War

The Neo-cons have wanted this from the beginning.

Gee... we struck a deal with Poland to set up US missiles... and then we complain about bullying and intimidation?
Thats so ridiculous that I'm ashamed.

...and terrified.

[gratuitous]

12. Yeah, Russia, knock off the bullying and intimidation

That's Bush's side of the street.

[Ganja Ninja]

13. "Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable"

Take it from someone who knows. Take it from someone who's bullying and intimidation has come back to bite him on the ass.

Meanwhile:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3440094

Take it from the worlds biggest hypocrite.

[Delphinus]

14. Really?

Isn't this what he's done for the past eight years?

[C_U_L8R]

15. Pootie Poot must be poopin' his pants

in laughter. This is world class comedy here.

[marias23]

16. What Happened to Bush's " I Looked Into Putin's Eyes"?

and saw his soul”

The Republicans have been supporting this madman for EIGHT YEARS. The Iraqi war has revived the cold war . Way to go national security party!

[ElboRuum]

21. Well, maybe he didn't see his soul, per se.

He looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soulmate.

[Dervill Crow]

50. Good one! nt

[calimary]

57. Well, it sure makes bush's girlfriend relevant again. Finally she has some world

conditions that she might understand to some degree. MIGHT.

[marias23]

17. The Iraqi war has revived the cold war .

Way to go national security party!

[paparush]

27. Mission Like Totally Doubly More Accomplisheder

[Tempest]

18. Pravda: Mr. Bush, Enough! You are an idiot!

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2008/08/15/pravda-mr-bush-enough-you-are-an-idiot/

[ensho]

35. thank you for that link - the world has had enough of the criminal neo cons

nt

[ElboRuum]

19. PPPPPFFFFFfffffttttttt!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Very fucking amusing in a scathing irony tragicomic sort of way.

Right sentiment.

Wrong person to express it.

[mbritton]

20. What kind of tragedy is this?

Pots are calling kettles black all over the place. Hypocrites accusing hypocrites? All these governments need to be stopped.

[bdamomma]

22. I can only say

does he ever look in the mirror or does he not have reflection to see himself.

what a sick sick man.

[Buttercup McToots]

23. Set Up?

Set Up?


Set-up complete: Georgia the new Vietnam
By Larry Chin
Online Journal Associate Editor

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publ...cle_3619.shtml
Aug 14, 2008, 00:21




Emerging evidence is already exposing the Bush/Cheney administration’s bloody fingerprints all over the conflict in Georgia:

(If you go to soruce link, you can click on links below

US complicit in Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia

NATO encouraged Georgia

Hypocrisy over war in Georgia

Georgia war a neocon election ploy

Using Georgia to target Russia

Russia responded by finishing the South Ossetia fighting quickly, clearly establishing its dominance for the moment. But what will be Washington’s response now?

Georgia/Ossetia is a perfect set-up. It is even better than a false flag operation. The Russian Threat will be the only issue, bar none, and Washington has only just begun pumping it up. It will be “it,” no matter which faction ultimately sits in the White House, and could well decide which faction manages to be installed.

The Cold War is back, and it may not be cold for very long: Toward a Broader Russia-US military confrontation?

Both neocons and neolibs now have a unified enemy again, and a propaganda cause behind which to mobilize.

Note that neoliberal hawk Zbigniew Brzezinski, a chief architect behind imperial plans targeted against Russian and Chinese geostrategic agendas, has influence behind both US presidential aspirants, Barack Obama and John McCain. His ruthless colleague and neocon counterpart, Henry Kissinger is in McCain’s camp.

Washington functionaries and 90 percent of the media are marching uniformly with propaganda pushing the idea that it was a Russian attack on “sovereign” Georgia, not an armed response to an aggressive provocation by Georgia armed with US troops, covert operatives and US firepower.

The western media is trumpeting that “something has to be done to show the Russians that they can’t just run roughshod over the continent,” while the actions of US covert operations, unacknowledged American fatalities (dead intelligence assets, soldiers lying dead in the streets of Ossetia) get silence. Note how the massive propaganda apparatus, a save-Georgia public relations machine (identical to the save-Iraqi-babies campaign launched before the Gulf War) was in place, seemingly before the fighting even started.

There is a good reason why Kissinger and the Bush family appeared so relaxed at the Beijing Olympic Games. The top echelons of the Anglo-American empire have already set up the “chessboard,” with multiple contingencies. It’s all been taken care of.

Barring miraculous developments, Georgia has become the new Vietnam, complete with fear of commies, oil supplies threatened (genuinely as well as fictionally), and real world war. The perfect planetary conflagration.

Rank and file Americans, the entire world, may be sick of war and deception, but fear of a mightily-armed Russia -- a true, living superpower adversary that actually dropped bombs and rolled in tanks -- could do the trick in a way that 9/11 and phantom terrorists did not.

Watch Bush/Cheney. They are not done.

[Buttercup McToots]

24. Travels around the world...Who are the West trying to kid?

Travels around the world...Who are the West trying to kid?
From The Independant...

Mary Dejevsky: Russia the bad guys? Who are the West trying to kid?

Friday, 15 August 2008


As Russian forces started to hand over control of the Georgian town of Gori yesterday, you could detect a note of surprise, even disappointment, in many media reports. So the all-out Russian invasion of plucky little democratic Georgia might not be going to happen after all. Could it be that the bear was drawing in his claws?


Well, Russia did not have long to worry about losing its reputation as backyard bully. Within hours, the United States envoy to Georgia was spinning a whole new myth to the BBC about how it was only decisive US intervention – by which he presumably meant the warplanes laden with humanitarian aid by then ostentatiously parked at Tbilisi airport – that the mighty erstwhile Red Army had been turned back.


The many Georgians who had counted on more timely and robust assistance from their US protector surely laughed a bitter laugh. But there were signs, with the arrival of the US Secretary of State in Georgia, that this version was gaining hold. The story of this war, it seems, will be that the US faced down a snarling, expansionist Russia, and forced it to limp back to its lair.


This is a travesty. But it is only the latest and most glaring in a series of Western misrepresentations and misreadings of Russian intentions throughout this sorry episode. They began with the repeated references to Russian "aggression" and "invasion", continued through charges of intended "regime change", and culminated in alarmist reports about Russian efforts to bomb the east-west energy pipeline. None of this, not one bit of it, is true.



Take "aggression" and "invasion". Georgia declared itself to be in a state of war with Russia. War, regrettably, is war, and a basic objective is to reduce, or destroy, the enemy's military capability. This is what Russia was doing until it accepted the ceasefire. The positions it took up inside Georgia proper can be seen as defensive, not offensive. Gori houses the Georgian garrison on South Ossetia's border.


And anyway, how did hostilities begin? Georgia sent troops into South Ossetia. The status of that region – which declared unilateral independence – is anomalous. It is inside Georgia's borders, but outside its control. But one reason why the dispute has not been solved is that the "fudge" over independence brought with it a degree of stability. Georgia's action upset that stability. But did anyone describe it as "aggression"? Trying to explain Russian "aggression", many reports went further, observing a "new" mood of Russian aggressive nationalism. Today's Russia, they reasoned, was uniquely liable to lash out, because energy wealth had fuelled new national ambitions. Where, though, is the evidence that Russian national pride is automatically malign?


If you exclude Chechnya, which Russians have always regarded as part of Russia, then neither Putin, nor Medvedev, had sent troops outside Russian borders before this point. As for the idea that Putin wants to restore the Soviet Union – derived from his remark about the Soviet collapse being "among the greatest catastrophes" of the 20th century – nothing could be further from what he did. Far from hankering after a lost empire, Putin used his years as president systematically to fix Russia's post-Soviet borders, signing treaties with every neighbouring country that would agree – including, last month, China. Of course, Russia does not like the idea of another Nato member on its borders. But this is not the same as wanting to restore "ex-Soviet space". It reflects Russia's view of its legitimate security interests.


Perhaps the most pernicious assumption over the past week, however, is that Russia wanted to effect "regime-change". Russian officials categorically denied this, insisting that they had no business overthrowing an elected leader. You might scoff, but Russia has done nothing that would contradict this. The Kremlin would probably be delighted if Georgians eventually punished their President for his misguided enterprise, but Russia seems to accept that Georgians decide what happens in Georgia.


Why was it so difficult for outsiders to believe that Moscow wanted precisely what its leaders said they wanted: a return to the situation that had pertained before Georgia's incursion into South Ossetia – and does it matter that its intentions were so appallingly misread? Yes it does. If outsiders impute to Moscow motives and objectives it does not have, they alienate Russia even further, and make a long-term solution of many international problems that more difficult. It is high time we treated Russia's post-Soviet leaders as responsible adults representing a legitimate national interest, rather than assuming the stereotypical worst.
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[Buttercup McToots]

25. Media war against Russia...Fake photos abound...

Media war against Russia...Fake photos abound...
In the modern world you can't wage a war just with your tanks and planes.

You have to use media. In Germany during WWII they would say "Truth is not what happened, truth is what we tell people".
Yesterday Russian military aircrafts bombed several Georgian military bases. It worth mentioning that military men are located in the a five-storied buildings which look exactly alike residential. The reason for this is simple, they were built in the Soviet Union times and there was not much diversity in architecture.

This morning (its 7 a.m. Moscow time right now) one can read on the BBC news site.

Russia deaf to Western voices, Reuters agency posts a horrible pictures of Russian bombardments of allegedly civilian residential buildings. But what if you take a closer look?

...Really look at them...

Warning: the pictures contain scenes with alleged blood and allegedly injured people.


http://russia-insider.livejournal.com/25329.html

[MadrasT]

33. This should be an OP

Seriously.

[paparush]

26. The galactic irony of this statement threatens the fabric of the space-time contiuum. nt

[spinbaby]

28. My irony meter is broken

It just can't take this s#@‡

[Supersedeas]

29. more Mukasey-speak from George Bushwell

[treestar]

30. The hypocrisy is so astounding, as well as the apparent ignorance

* talks as if South Ossetia has nothing whatsoever to do with it - the Russians just unilaterally attacked Georgia.

[MadrasT]

LMAO. Asshat.

:rofl:

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[L0oniX]

34. What a total fucking hypocrite asscarrot extraordinarie.

[LynnTheDem]

36. This is so fucking embarrassing. Hey George, the rest of the world does actually

see the incredibly deep hypocrisy, you stupid MFer.

[Enthusiast]

37. This is what happens

When you destroy your credibility and your county's military. The U.S.A. no longer has the moral high ground because of Bush's foolish words and actions.

[fascisthunter]

38. What a Sick Minded Hypocrite

[Joe Chi Minh]

39. I think maybe the Russians admired the Neocons too much, and thought

what a good idea that was - making your own reality.

I'm being ironical, since, as the Russian leaders pointed out, they responded to the attack by the Georgians on South Ossetia as any other national leaders would in the same circumstances. They had been left with no choice.

However, as regards this "making you own reality", I was referring to a passage from an article in which psychopaths and their interaction with the rest of society are discussed:

"Ron Suskind, former Wall Street Journal reporter and author of The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House, and the Education of Paul O'Neill, wrote:

"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend - but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

"The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'"

They aren't really lying - they're creating "new realities." Nothing of what we call reality is real to them. When a normal human being talks about a chair, the reference is to a chair that sits there on its own legs. It's there whether anyone sees it or not, whether anyone mentions it or not, whether anyone "declares" it to be there or not. It has its own sovereign existence. But that is not so for the true psychopath. The psychopath with his/her infantile internal structure cannot comprehend that anything else exists on its own separate from them. It is only their acknowledgement that makes it real, and they only acknowledge what is significant to them in terms of what they want, what will make them feel good.

When a normal human demands that the declarations of the psychopath should be evaluated, the psychopath will declare that the one making such a demand has no integrity which really means that their position - the psychopath's declaration - is not being supported !"

As a matter of fact, we can occasionally see something analogous to this latter process on DU, when we cite specific words and actions of an aspiring politician, which are both a matter of public record and wholly unequivocal. However, when we do so, ratehr than addressing each accusation, we are accused by the individual's supporters of well, effectively, lying - distorting the truth for purely partisan reasons. In other words, no criticism of their favoured political aspirant at all, ipso facto, can possibly
be true.

Here is the link to the absorbing article, which I originally found linked either on here or at CommonDreams:

http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/abb2282c-badb-464e-a08f-5bc8e63b1fd9

By the way, it would not be right to identify the political aspirant I have in mind, whose supporters seem so morally-challenged, but it wasn't Hillary.

[underpants]

40. Great post

thanks

[Buttercup McToots]

46. Thank you...

:)

[Joe Chi Minh]

58. Thank you both. I've taken to declaiming that hilarious "pronunciamento" of the high-ranking

Neocon official - at the moment in a kind of garbled version. The trouble is I have a way laughing at my own jokes - in this case, after I've only got a few of His Nibs's words out.

Anyway, my wife's not really that political and she'll probably get fed up with it soon. However, I shall press on... acting in such a way as to create my own reality.

[sellitman]

41. Heck of a job George!

You just couldn't make this stuff up.

[al bupp]

42. Takes one to know one, as they say /nt

[Wizard777]

43. I guess Putin has 48 hours to go into exile or face nuclear anhilation.

I think this makes it official. Americans are now the stupidest people to ever exist. I think the whole damned country needs to take a day off and go to Washington DC and solve OUR problem. With 300 million people headed for DC. I think Congress would have Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice hanging from the Washington Monument when we got there.

[bdamomma]

44. we the people need to take some sort of action

against these neo cons. They are playing us for fools everyday.

[Wizard777]

48. It's not just them. Pelosi won't Impeach because she makes too much money off Bush's Policies.

She's not going to have her rabbid cash cow put down and fuck everybody else.

[Bragi]

45. Cue laugh track... /nt

[underpants]

47. or

http://www.instantrimshot.com/

[maddezmom]

49. Bush says Russia's actions in Georgia unacceptable- WH releases his Sat Radio address early

Bush says Russia's actions in Georgia unacceptable 15 Aug 2008 21:30:18 GMT
Source: Reuters
CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug 15 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said Russia's actions were "completely unacceptable" in Georgia and that Moscow must end the crisis.

"The world has watched with alarm as Russia invaded a sovereign neighboring state and threatened a democratic government elected by its people," Bush said in his weekly Saturday radio address, which the White House released on Friday.

"This act is completely unacceptable to the free nations of the world," Bush said.

It was Bush's second statement on the Georgia crisis on Friday, a sign of U.S. concern about Russia's intentions. Moscow sent troops into Georgia in response to Tbilisi sending forces to retake South Ossetia, a pro-Russian province, last week.

Bush said he would send Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Brussels next week to meet with NATO foreign ministers and European Union officials.

more:http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N15519908.htm

[DebbieCDC]

51. Is this from the Onion?

[deacon]

52. The unmitigated gall. And let me guess, MccLapdog agreed. n/t

[caseymoz]

53. It has taken him eight years to discover what liberal/democrats have always said.

And he had to kill about a million people first.

[Miss Chybil]

54. Ironical, ain't it? n/t

[Franc_Lee]

55. Russia to Bush, you're either with us or against us...

[Joe Chi Minh]

59. LOL!!!!

[Solly Mack]

56. To be expected from him

He's a known hypocrite, liar, war criminal

[SOS]

60. "They chose freedom" unless you disagree with despot Saakvashili:

Peaceful opposition protest, November 3, 2007:



After Saakvashili got done with them on November 7, 2007:



Democracy in action!

[scarface2004]

61. "Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century,"

putin said referring to the invasion and occupation of iraq by the fascist united states of amerika recently!!

[laylah]

62. He is SUCH

a dickweed. Hello pot, meet kettle. :puke: