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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:05 AM
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Iconic stone arch collapses in southern Utah park
Source: AP

ARCHES NATIONAL PARK, Utah (AP) — One of the largest and most photographed arches in Arches National Park has collapsed.

Paul Henderson, the park's chief of interpretation, said Wall Arch collapsed sometime late Monday or early Tuesday.

The arch is along Devils Garden Trail, one of the most popular in the park. For years, the arch has been a favorite stopping point for photographers.

Henderson said the arch was claimed by forces that will eventually destroy others in the park: gravity and erosion.

"They all let go after a while," he said Friday.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jJKVQEtp-N1l7AIyKVgxPeB9iaCQD92FBLL80



http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5g9PC9ClzEZNE_BK-gQlg1ZNTZrGg?size=s

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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:15 AM
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1. With all of the shit
going down in the world, I feel surprisingly bad about this.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:18 AM
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3. ...
I know :hug:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:24 AM
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7. Me too. In fact, my immediate reaction was "This really is the end of the world."
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:31 AM
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9. that feeling came when the largest ice shelf
collapsed
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:55 PM
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23. It's just a rolling end of the world.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:15 AM
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2. OMG! I was just there - I outlasted a rock! - woo-hoo!
Makes my pics golden.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:20 AM
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4. The Bush Administration
secretly sold what ever the stuff is that holds rock together.

I demand an investigation!

:evilgrin:

I'm glad we got pictures 5 years ago.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:32 AM
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31. Mission Accomplished
Better privatize the parks.

:sarcasm: :hi:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:21 AM
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5. Example of why we need to protect what is left
Referring to more than Arches, but beaches/ocean sanctuaries, forest and other areas where man has yet to destroy.

Don't let them drill.
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24HRrnr Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:00 PM
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13. How do you propse to stop natural forces?
I don't see much human impact in erosion (in a desert) and less in gravity.

Sometimes nature happens.

Deal with it.

God I get tired of the whiney-ass everything is humanity's fault mentality around here.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:17 PM
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18. Natural forces is one thing human destruction is another
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 01:17 PM by liberal N proud
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:32 PM
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19. I don't think that he was blaming man for this particular collapse.
His post certainly didn't state that. I think he was simply saying that this highlights how important our remaining natural world is and that, while we can't stop the destructive forces of nature, we need to at least not destroy things ourselves.

In any case, the nastiness of your response was totally uncalled for.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:22 AM
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6. Damn "Old Man of the Mountain" went now this.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain

Its a shame but I would say preventative actions by the Park Service could have saved it.
What's next Rushmore? Water and erosion are a constant they can fill cracks and reinforce sections if they had the funds to do so.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:26 AM
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8. I don't feel the same way about Rushmore at all. It's manmade.
I've always thought that Rushmore was a travesty.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:44 PM
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17. Even the name is a travesty. Let alone carving white faces onto a mountain in the Black Hills.
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 12:45 PM by alphafemale
Rushmore was a lawyer who helped rob the Sioux of their their sacred land.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:36 PM
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22. Agreed
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 04:37 PM by depakid
Hopefully the crazy horse monument will be completed, tho-
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:56 PM
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24. I'd rather a monument to Crazy Horse than white guys, but I still think it's wrong.
Stop carving up mountains.
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The Croquist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:11 PM
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27. I guess that means that you cheered the Tali-ban
when they blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan right?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:17 AM
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29. What a stupid thing to say.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:23 AM
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30. Kind of like....
the pyramids, or the great wall of China? Massive amounts of stone that were moved and carved. Mt. Rushmore is an amazing monument to human ingenuity. I wouldn't want another to be constructed, but what's done is done.
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bdab1973 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:55 AM
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12. Well that's natural...
Why don't we just slather concrete and rebar on the arches so they'll last unnaturally long? One of the tenets of the NPS is they leave things to mother nature...or are supposed to. Filling in cracks and reinforcing natural geological formations isn't exactly preserving the natural beauty. Like the NPS said, given time, all the arches will collapse, and likely, new ones will form.
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24HRrnr Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:03 PM
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15.  I started to say that then
saw your post where you said it better.

Good job.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:18 PM
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20. Concrete and rebar? Nahhh! Just use vinyl siding! (NT)
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:44 AM
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10. Just how does one get to be the "chief of interpretation" at a National Park?
And what in the blazes is a "chief of interpretation," anyway?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:48 AM
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11. But the big questeion is: Did it amke a sound?
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:03 PM
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14. Only . . .
. . . if someone was there to hear it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:40 PM
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16. I have walked the Devil's Garden Trail and seen that arch.
Our family went to Arches NP when it was new, back in the early 70s when I was a kid.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:28 PM
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21. This proves God is angry at America
According to Fred Phelpps.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:16 PM
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25. That's how erosion works, folks.
The notion of the Earth and Nature as static comes from the Abrahamic religions, it is a false notion.



"Ocean basins open and close.
The seas cover the continents and then retreat.
Mountain ranges like the Himalayas and the Andes will be eroded flat.
On a human time-scale not much changes,
but on a geological time scale the whole earth is remodeled,
and everything we have done and made will be destroyed."


--Professor Mike Rampino at NYU.
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:06 PM
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26. exactly, this isn't a loss people.
these arches never last long. if you see one, you're lucky, because it may not be there the next time you're there.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:54 AM
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28. Destroyes by gravity and erosion
is there a metaphor for American society here?
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